Re: Deodorant at an early age?

August 3, 2006

Hey, ...

All I can say is yes...to most questions...not body odor yet but zits and

stinky feet....

I thought maybe because he has grown so fast he has a lot of male hormones,

I don't know. often memorizes commercials and will ask me at the grocery

store... " Mommy, do you need more tampons? " They are cute, I have relented

a little in the arguing, for the most part I am trying not to treat him

differently. I don't

want him to have this as an excuse to not learn and be responsible, because

they are

different and sounds like he is very smart as well.

This morning as I was dropping him off at the babysitter a little girl who is

5 also and so called " normal " was screeching and running around, I looked at the

babysitter and

said " wow, I guess I forget how lucky I am. " She always tells me how

wonderful and sweet he is and how the teachers will love him. (this is the " rule

follower " in him), one of the nice side effects of AS....

This is all very new to me also and I am trying to focus on the positives, I

have a good friend who has said some stupid things too. I know exactly how you

feel.....

and definitely have some things in common ( collects rocks and

sticks) and he likes to wash them in the bath tub.....

Thanks for sharing.....Kim

<randimarlene@...> wrote:

Hi, weird question, did any of your kids start having body odor early

on? has been

wearing deodorant since age 2 1/2. My theory is from all the hormones they pump

into

milk that caused him to mature faster in that area, but I don't know. I have cut

most milk

products (with the exception of the string cheese he begs for and throws a fit

about if he

doesn't get) and have noticed that even w/the extreme heat we've been having (I

live in

Massachusetts-hit almost 100 yesterday!) that he hasn't needed to wear it as

much, Could

be coincidence. Just wondering if anyone else experienced this.

Also, do you find yourself walking on eggshells trying not to set your AS child

off? I mean,

now that we know that he can't help it, my expectations for him are much lower

and I

don't fight w/him as much to do this or that and I am giving him enuf warning so

that he

can finish the process of what he's doing in his head...but, being a newbie mom

at this

Asperger's thing, I am still in awe that it took this long to figure this out.

My husband and I have to chuckle at the oddity (is that a word? LOL) of his

" collections "

too. Wine bottle corks (my husband is a huge wine buff), watermelon seeds,

popsicle

sticks, the tags off of the McD's happy meal NeoPets, peach pits (he likes to

plant things

future botanist??), and right now, he's been playing w/the " toy " of choice, a

ball of clay,

that he throws around to the walls, ceiling, tv, window screens, my 6 month old

daughter,

you name it! And man does that clay stink! eeew!! I gotta buy a better brand!

Speaking of toys, (sorry I am cramming a whole bunch of random thoughts into one

message! ) but does your AS child play w/the usual age appropriate toys? I have

the

hardest time at Christmas trying to buy him something. I usually aim for science

experiement type things (he loves his spiderman crayon melter! It's been going

non stop

for 2 weeks!! If I smell another crayon I may puke.) He is obsessed w/money. Not

spending it just collecting it. He likes his joke box (press a button and it

tells a joke) and

magic tricks too. He is addicted to Playstation 2 and computer games. Any toy

suggestions that your child plays with that I can try?

OH! and he recites TV commercials for like melting chocolate, kitchen organizers

and

upcoming TV episodes ver batim!!! And then says things like " Hey Mommy, don't

you want

that Beaddazzler? You can make your clothes look so pretty! " He's cute. Cracks

me up!

Thanks for listening! I am loving having other moms to talk to. Even my closest

friends

here do not understand. My best friend in particular said once that my son was

" freaky "

and compared him to her brother who was institutionalized and said that may be

an

option!! Still friends w/her but the respect level is seriously depleated! I

don't care who you

are, you don't say that about someone's child, esp to their face.

Ok, I am done. Have a great day and enjoy the heat! and if you're living in a

place that is

cool, can I come over? haha

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August 3, 2006

On Aug 3, 2006, at 7:37 AM, wrote:

>

> Also, do you find yourself walking on eggshells trying not to set

> your AS child off?

Some days, sure. Mostly, though, it's about simplifying your life so

that your child can handle

it. Every child's triggers and sensitivities are different. My

kids are great in public--we go out to

eat all the time, we just went on about a 1500 mile driving vacation,

stayed in three different hotels,

etc. They were fine. Really fine. But don't ask ph to eat

peas or ask to sort the laundry.

That sends them into a frenzy. Know your child's limitations and

respect them. I found this summer

that I learn far more from a meltdown than my child does. His are

now few and far between so I

can tell what causes them.

>

> Speaking of toys, (sorry I am cramming a whole bunch of random

> thoughts into one

> message! ) but does your AS child play w/the usual age appropriate

> toys?

We went to visit friends we haven't seen in 5 years. and her

older son went to

preschool together. Now they are 12. SO different now. Her son

gave up toys a while ago.

still likes Legos and miniatures, and other things that

definitely qualify as toys.

But he likes electronics, too. LOL The kids will even get out the

colored wooden blocks

and their Hot Wheels and do some adventure. And just when I am

ready to give away

the extensive collection of PlayMobile castle, they get it out and

build a whole medieval

community on the basement floor.

>

Jackie

ph (10, Asperger's/ADHD)

(12, PDD-NOS/ADHD)

August 3, 2006

Yes, my daughter is 3 years old and has been using deodorant for the

past 6 mos. She is currently seeing and endocrinologist because she has

also started to develop underarm hair. They call it precocious puberty.

We are currently waiting on the results of her blood tests to see if

it's any worth worrying about.

August 3, 2006

Hi!! I didn't have this issue so early but my now thirteen year old

was already hitting puberty before he turned nine.

He has 'zits' and massive body odor and he is SOOO hairy.

I too think it has something to do with what we eat and/or breath in.

Egg shells? Yes yes and yes. Well, this is my opinion on that. We do

NOT want to have to be walking on those egg shells.

And if I set my expectations lower, than my son will only meet them.

I guess my best thoughts are that we should understand why our kids

do certain things, and not 'blow up' at them, yet continuously try

to teach them and get them past what we think they can do.

We should always be understanding, yet not limiting to them.

You cram tons of different thoughts in one single message? Isn't

that normal??? hahah. That is what I do:)

My three Aspies all prefer different things. My youngest loves Space

things, and SpongeBob. My eleven year old loves power rangers,

books, and polished rocks.

My oldest is a gamer, and loves star wars books. and games, and

games and games (Play station, game boy, etc)

Oh and my middle son is ALWAYS talking about commercials. (Did you

know that you can do over 100 different designs with the

bedazzler??) He sounds like your son. hehe

Yes, these families on this board are awsome. We all can't post all

the time, and sometimes, we are only reading, but too busy and under

stress to post at all, but we all seem to understand. I would like

to get a hold of this friend of yours with the institutionalized

brother.

Grrrr!!

Well, happy posting.

*smiles*

B

August 3, 2006

On Aug 3, 2006, at 8:33 PM, advocateforaspies wrote:

> I guess my best thoughts are that we should understand why our kids

> do certain things, and not 'blow up' at them, yet continuously try

> to teach them and get them past what we think they can do.

> We should always be understanding, yet not limiting to them.

What we've had to do at home and school at times is get down to the

bare minimum.

Then add up in small increments so they can tolerate more and more.

But we had

to get to the bare minimum to figure out what it was that were the

triggers were in the first place

sometimes!

Jackie

August 4, 2006

My daughter only drinks Lactain milk due to her milk allergies and she

still needs deodorant so I'm not sure what it is.

As for walking on egg shells... I constantly feel like I'm doing that.

I hate it! As a single mom it's oh so much harder to do too.

Collecting things... My daughter really isn't into that. I'm not sure

why LOL

Commercials... She can definitely remember some of them word for word.

I thought that maybe it was because her dad let her watch too much TV.

Like, every time we go by Subway restaraunt which is at the corner by our

house, she says " eat fresh " Maybe it's not too much TV, maybe it's just

the way an AS brain works?!?!?!

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August 4, 2006

My sons (both on the spectrum) started the body ordor early. The best approach

was a prescription deodarant called DRYSOL that the ped. recommended. The trick

is they have to use it every day because it has a cumulative effect. It worked

wonders.

In our case I don't believe it had anything to do with food, or Autism for

that matter. I think it was more of a genetic thing. Their father has the

problem too.

Ask your pediatrician. DRYSOL is quite commonly prescribed.

<randimarlene@...> wrote:

Hi, weird question, did any of your kids start having body odor early

on? has been

wearing deodorant since age 2 1/2. My theory is from all the hormones they pump

into

milk that caused him to mature faster in that area, but I don't know. I have cut

most milk

products (with the exception of the string cheese he begs for and throws a fit

about if he

doesn't get) and have noticed that even w/the extreme heat we've been having (I

live in

Massachusetts-hit almost 100 yesterday!) that he hasn't needed to wear it as

much, Could

be coincidence. Just wondering if anyone else experienced this.

Also, do you find yourself walking on eggshells trying not to set your AS child

off? I mean,

now that we know that he can't help it, my expectations for him are much lower

and I

don't fight w/him as much to do this or that and I am giving him enuf warning so

that he

can finish the process of what he's doing in his head...but, being a newbie mom

at this

Asperger's thing, I am still in awe that it took this long to figure this out.

My husband and I have to chuckle at the oddity (is that a word? LOL) of his

" collections "

too. Wine bottle corks (my husband is a huge wine buff), watermelon seeds,

popsicle

sticks, the tags off of the McD's happy meal NeoPets, peach pits (he likes to

plant things

future botanist??), and right now, he's been playing w/the " toy " of choice, a

ball of clay,

that he throws around to the walls, ceiling, tv, window screens, my 6 month old

daughter,

you name it! And man does that clay stink! eeew!! I gotta buy a better brand!

Speaking of toys, (sorry I am cramming a whole bunch of random thoughts into one

message! ) but does your AS child play w/the usual age appropriate toys? I have

the

hardest time at Christmas trying to buy him something. I usually aim for science

experiement type things (he loves his spiderman crayon melter! It's been going

non stop

for 2 weeks!! If I smell another crayon I may puke.) He is obsessed w/money. Not

spending it just collecting it. He likes his joke box (press a button and it

tells a joke) and

magic tricks too. He is addicted to Playstation 2 and computer games. Any toy

suggestions that your child plays with that I can try?

OH! and he recites TV commercials for like melting chocolate, kitchen organizers

and

upcoming TV episodes ver batim!!! And then says things like " Hey Mommy, don't

you want

that Beaddazzler? You can make your clothes look so pretty! " He's cute. Cracks

me up!

Thanks for listening! I am loving having other moms to talk to. Even my closest

friends

here do not understand. My best friend in particular said once that my son was

" freaky "

and compared him to her brother who was institutionalized and said that may be

an

option!! Still friends w/her but the respect level is seriously depleated! I

don't care who you

are, you don't say that about someone's child, esp to their face.

Ok, I am done. Have a great day and enjoy the heat! and if you're living in a

place that is

cool, can I come over? haha

Preserve the Past

Live the Present

and Believe in the Future

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Donna Gates

August 4, 2006

Jackie,

In my opinion, what you just said you have done is EXACTLY what I

think should be done:)

I think that is great!

*thanks for sharing*

*smiles*

lisa b

>

> What we've had to do at home and school at times is get down to

the

> bare minimum.

> Then add up in small increments so they can tolerate more and

more.

> But we had

> to get to the bare minimum to figure out what it was that were

the

> triggers were in the first place

> sometimes!

>

> Jackie

>

August 4, 2006

Oh thank goodness! I was worried about the zits at 9 yrs old. My little

guy is using a special soap now, and we are watching the breakouts to

minimize them where we can. I almost never post on here, but I do read

daily. Thank you to all the families on this board. If I have questions

about anything, I just look at my old emails. Thank you!!

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August 4, 2006

No early body odor here. You might check with the doc about that.

Eggshells: Used to do that A LOT! I suppose I avoid some situations to avoid

meltdowns but one thing is that I also will tell the boys - " Hey, if you can't

stand that (song, show, toy, color, whatever) then you need to go to your (room,

outside, ride your bike, etc.) So I try to get them to remove themselves from

the situation instead of making the family stop doing something fun.

Collections: Yes! My older ds has always collected cards and foreign money.

He also tends to pick things up that he finds " interesting " whether or not they

are his. So we all tend to go to his room when we can't find something. It's

usually in there.

Toys: Never appropriate toys. I have a tough time at holidays like Christmas

too because they are limited in their interests.

Memorizing tv commercials - my younger ds ALWAYS has done this. It can be

really funny.

Friends who say rotten things: I think you are being nice to still call her

" friend " after that remark. I hope she just wasn't thinking when she said that!

Roxanna

( ) Deodorant at an early age?

Hi, weird question, did any of your kids start having body odor early on?

has been

wearing deodorant since age 2 1/2. My theory is from all the hormones they

pump into

milk that caused him to mature faster in that area, but I don't know. I have

cut most milk

products (with the exception of the string cheese he begs for and throws a fit

about if he

doesn't get) and have noticed that even w/the extreme heat we've been having

(I live in

Massachusetts-hit almost 100 yesterday!) that he hasn't needed to wear it as

much, Could

be coincidence. Just wondering if anyone else experienced this.

Also, do you find yourself walking on eggshells trying not to set your AS

child off? I mean,

now that we know that he can't help it, my expectations for him are much lower

and I

don't fight w/him as much to do this or that and I am giving him enuf warning

so that he

can finish the process of what he's doing in his head...but, being a newbie

mom at this

Asperger's thing, I am still in awe that it took this long to figure this out.

My husband and I have to chuckle at the oddity (is that a word? LOL) of his

" collections "

too. Wine bottle corks (my husband is a huge wine buff), watermelon seeds,

popsicle

sticks, the tags off of the McD's happy meal NeoPets, peach pits (he likes to

plant things

future botanist??), and right now, he's been playing w/the " toy " of choice, a

ball of clay,

that he throws around to the walls, ceiling, tv, window screens, my 6 month

old daughter,

you name it! And man does that clay stink! eeew!! I gotta buy a better brand!

Speaking of toys, (sorry I am cramming a whole bunch of random thoughts into

one

message! ) but does your AS child play w/the usual age appropriate toys? I

have the

hardest time at Christmas trying to buy him something. I usually aim for

science

experiement type things (he loves his spiderman crayon melter! It's been going

non stop

for 2 weeks!! If I smell another crayon I may puke.) He is obsessed w/money.

Not

spending it just collecting it. He likes his joke box (press a button and it

tells a joke) and

magic tricks too. He is addicted to Playstation 2 and computer games. Any toy

suggestions that your child plays with that I can try?

OH! and he recites TV commercials for like melting chocolate, kitchen

organizers and

upcoming TV episodes ver batim!!! And then says things like " Hey Mommy, don't

you want

that Beaddazzler? You can make your clothes look so pretty! " He's cute. Cracks

me up!

Thanks for listening! I am loving having other moms to talk to. Even my

closest friends

here do not understand. My best friend in particular said once that my son was

" freaky "

and compared him to her brother who was institutionalized and said that may be

an

option!! Still friends w/her but the respect level is seriously depleated! I

don't care who you

are, you don't say that about someone's child, esp to their face.

Ok, I am done. Have a great day and enjoy the heat! and if you're living in

a place that is

cool, can I come over? haha

.

__,_._,__

August 4, 2006

My son is 9, I'll sniff him when I get home but I haven't noticed anything yet.

What age do kids normally start wearing deoderant? I don't have the slightest

memory as to when I started. As far as eggshells, I too have become so much more

patient since he was diagnosed. I am a newbie too and man it makes a difference

to know all about AS! Now if only I could get his dad and step mom to be more

understanding. My son's grammy and I are the only ones who have really read the

books about it. We all went to a Tony Attwood conference last weekend and today

(his first day back at his dad's house) he already called me and complained that

he's fighting with his step mom. It would help so much if she understood it all

and was more patient with him. My son has many odd collections! His dad used to

get mad that he would come home from school everyday with pockets full of

pebbles and leaves. Now it all makes total sense to me! SO much makes sense to

me now! He'll even pick up a piece of

the street (like a tiny piece of the asphalt that's loose) and want to keep it

because it's " rare " . So many things are " rare " to him, it's funny. Toys, he

really likes board games and especially Apples to Apples. That's a really fun

one for the family to play! And the rules are very simple. He loves science

experiment type things to. We got a new kitten and I got him a science

experiment to do with the cat. It was great! They have it at learning stores.

And yes, he loves counting his money and organizing it. I got him an " ATM " piggy

bank. You can use a card and make a deposit, withdrawl, ect. He loves it. I got

him that at Xmas time. I also got him a tent you put over a bed. He loves going

in it and playing imagination stuff. I tend to stay away from traditional toys

that he'll never end up playing with. Half the stuff he gets from other people

we end up giving away. The whole memorizing commercials thing can be so

ammusing. My son does mostly movies, but he does an old

man's voice that is so hilareous! And at great timing too. Makes everyone

laugh. The bedazzle thing cracks me up. Every commercial like that my son

decides that I need it. Too funny. I have to explain to him why I don't need it

and why it probably doesn't work. Like that hair braider that puts beads in your

hair too. That thing would knot my hair so fast but my son thought it would be

great for me. So glad to talk to other people that have the exact same things

going on! Yes, I rarely talk to my closest friends about it because if they

don't know ALOT about it, they really don't understand.

Roxanna <madideas@...> wrote: No early body odor here. You

might check with the doc about that.

Eggshells: Used to do that A LOT! I suppose I avoid some situations to avoid

meltdowns but one thing is that I also will tell the boys - " Hey, if you can't

stand that (song, show, toy, color, whatever) then you need to go to your (room,

outside, ride your bike, etc.) So I try to get them to remove themselves from

the situation instead of making the family stop doing something fun.

Collections: Yes! My older ds has always collected cards and foreign money. He

also tends to pick things up that he finds " interesting " whether or not they are

his. So we all tend to go to his room when we can't find something. It's usually

in there.

Toys: Never appropriate toys. I have a tough time at holidays like Christmas too

because they are limited in their interests.

Memorizing tv commercials - my younger ds ALWAYS has done this. It can be really

funny.

Friends who say rotten things: I think you are being nice to still call her

" friend " after that remark. I hope she just wasn't thinking when she said that!

Roxanna

( ) Deodorant at an early age?

Hi, weird question, did any of your kids start having body odor early on?

has been

wearing deodorant since age 2 1/2. My theory is from all the hormones they pump

into

milk that caused him to mature faster in that area, but I don't know. I have cut

most milk

products (with the exception of the string cheese he begs for and throws a fit

about if he

doesn't get) and have noticed that even w/the extreme heat we've been having (I

live in

Massachusetts-hit almost 100 yesterday!) that he hasn't needed to wear it as

much, Could

be coincidence. Just wondering if anyone else experienced this.

Also, do you find yourself walking on eggshells trying not to set your AS child

off? I mean,

now that we know that he can't help it, my expectations for him are much lower

and I

don't fight w/him as much to do this or that and I am giving him enuf warning so

that he

can finish the process of what he's doing in his head...but, being a newbie mom

at this

Asperger's thing, I am still in awe that it took this long to figure this out.

My husband and I have to chuckle at the oddity (is that a word? LOL) of his

" collections "

too. Wine bottle corks (my husband is a huge wine buff), watermelon seeds,

popsicle

sticks, the tags off of the McD's happy meal NeoPets, peach pits (he likes to

plant things

future botanist??), and right now, he's been playing w/the " toy " of choice, a

ball of clay,

that he throws around to the walls, ceiling, tv, window screens, my 6 month old

daughter,

you name it! And man does that clay stink! eeew!! I gotta buy a better brand!

Speaking of toys, (sorry I am cramming a whole bunch of random thoughts into one

message! ) but does your AS child play w/the usual age appropriate toys? I have

the

hardest time at Christmas trying to buy him something. I usually aim for science

experiement type things (he loves his spiderman crayon melter! It's been going

non stop

for 2 weeks!! If I smell another crayon I may puke.) He is obsessed w/money. Not

spending it just collecting it. He likes his joke box (press a button and it

tells a joke) and

magic tricks too. He is addicted to Playstation 2 and computer games. Any toy

suggestions that your child plays with that I can try?

OH! and he recites TV commercials for like melting chocolate, kitchen organizers

and

upcoming TV episodes ver batim!!! And then says things like " Hey Mommy, don't

you want

that Beaddazzler? You can make your clothes look so pretty! " He's cute. Cracks

me up!

Thanks for listening! I am loving having other moms to talk to. Even my closest

friends

here do not understand. My best friend in particular said once that my son was

" freaky "

and compared him to her brother who was institutionalized and said that may be

an

option!! Still friends w/her but the respect level is seriously depleated! I

don't care who you

are, you don't say that about someone's child, esp to their face.

Ok, I am done. Have a great day and enjoy the heat! and if you're living in a

place that is

cool, can I come over? haha

..

__,_._,__

August 4, 2006

Oh , that " it's rare " stuff is so like how it goes at my house! I bought

this decanter glass that had a cork in it. My 17 yo ds (hfa) kept the cork

because it is a " rare " thing. All his life he has done that.

Roxanna

Re: ( ) Deodorant at an early age?

My son is 9, I'll sniff him when I get home but I haven't noticed anything

yet. What age do kids normally start wearing deoderant? I don't have the

slightest memory as to when I started. As far as eggshells, I too have become so

much more patient since he was diagnosed. I am a newbie too and man it makes a

difference to know all about AS! Now if only I could get his dad and step mom to

be more understanding. My son's grammy and I are the only ones who have really

read the books about it. We all went to a Tony Attwood conference last weekend

and today (his first day back at his dad's house) he already called me and

complained that he's fighting with his step mom. It would help so much if she

understood it all and was more patient with him. My son has many odd

collections! His dad used to get mad that he would come home from school

everyday with pockets full of pebbles and leaves. Now it all makes total sense

to me! SO much makes sense to me now! He'll even pick up a piece of