Re: Excluded from field trip

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In a message dated 2/1/2006 3:13:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,

disorderlybehavior@... writes:

Apparently, Jake is being excluded from this field trip because he

displays inappropriate behavior, even when he is in a good mood and

happy he will shout inappropriate things, and another school is going

to be there, so they can't do it. I told his teacher that is was not

right to exclude him based on his disability. I asked why can't he have

a " personal chaperone " ? She told me that they would still be unable to

control him.

It would sure make me wonder how much educating he is getting if they can't

control him. Be sure to document this phone call by a follow up letter to

the school. Request their policy against discrimination. Actually, go to

_www.reedmartin.com_ (http://www.reedmartin.com) and read about the ADA. He

also has a chat room and you might get good advice there. But this is blatant

discrimination.

<<I would have his social skills therapist go with them, but

they do not allow volunteers! I can't even go into my son's class and

volunteer, because I was told it would be a privacy violation to the

other students, because it is an EBD program. >>

That is just not true. I think you should get a good advocate and get

yourself in the classroom to volunteer on a regular basis. You will learn a

lot!

Roxanna ô¿ö

Autism Happens

[Guest guest]

That's terrible! When I read postings like yours, it makes me grateful that my

kids are in the school district that they are. Two years ago when my son was in

8th grade the entire class (100+ students) went to Great America for the day.

The APE teacher for the district volunteered to go as Josh's aide. He literally

had to drag Josh on the bus, kicking and screaming. Mr. Christian stayed right

by Josh's side all day, got him to go on some of the rides, and Josh came home

that night yakking nonstop about what a great time he had!

When are people going to realize that these kids are not going to learn social

skills if they exclude them from things like the skating party? They should

look at it as an opportunity to educate...they are supposed to be educators,

right?

disorderlybehavior <disorderlybehavior@...> wrote:

Jake has been excited for several days about a field trip to a skating

rink. I never got any corrospondance from the school about it so I

called his teacher a few minutes ago, and I am still in tears.

Apparently, Jake is being excluded from this field trip because he

displays inappropriate behavior, even when he is in a good mood and

happy he will shout inappropriate things, and another school is going

to be there, so they can't do it. I told his teacher that is was not

right to exclude him based on his disability. I asked why can't he have

a " personal chaperone " ? She told me that they would still be unable to

control him. I would have his social skills therapist go with them, but

they do not allow volunteers! I can't even go into my son's class and

volunteer, because I was told it would be a privacy violation to the

other students, because it is an EBD program. This I need to check out.

In the meantime, I'm going to keep Jake home from school that day and

take him somewhere, right after I contact PACER! Thanks for letting me

vent.

Theresa

[Guest guest]

I am a public school teacher with a 5-year-old daughter with AS. This is

VERY disturbing to me. I have a couple of questions for you. Are field trips

covered in Jake's IEP? If not, what basis are they using to make the

decision about him, other than convenience?

Does your district or the EBD program have a policy for such exclusions? If

not, you can challenge this right up the line if necessary. His disability

should never preclude him from taking part in school events. Their

unwillingness to allow volunteers in the classroom smacks of CYA in the

worst way.

You should not let this drop. Get the whole story and be a pain in their

collective rear ends. Unless they have legal backing to prevent him from

going, it seems to me that they are simply making up reasons not to

inconvenience themselves so your son can have an appropriate educational

experience with his peers.

Get the facts about this decision and make sure whatever decision is made is

in your son's best interests. He's the one protected here. I wish you well.

Mark

On 2/1/06, disorderlybehavior <disorderlybehavior@...> wrote:

>

> Jake has been excited for several days about a field trip to a skating

> rink. I never got any corrospondance from the school about it so I

> called his teacher a few minutes ago, and I am still in tears.

> Apparently, Jake is being excluded from this field trip because he

> displays inappropriate behavior, even when he is in a good mood and

> happy he will shout inappropriate things, and another school is going

> to be there, so they can't do it. I told his teacher that is was not

> right to exclude him based on his disability. I asked why can't he have

> a " personal chaperone " ? She told me that they would still be unable to

> control him. I would have his social skills therapist go with them, but

> they do not allow volunteers! I can't even go into my son's class and

> volunteer, because I was told it would be a privacy violation to the

> other students, because it is an EBD program. This I need to check out.

> In the meantime, I'm going to keep Jake home from school that day and

> take him somewhere, right after I contact PACER! Thanks for letting me

> vent.

>

> Theresa

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would demand that the school write everything down as far as their

reasons for excluding him so that you have proof of discrimination -

which this clearly is.

I was invited as a room mom to attend a field trip with my son. I

was one of three moms who helped control behavior.

Trust me when I say that many of our high functioning autistic kids

are nowhere near the behavior problems that some of these so called

normal kids are.

>

> Jake has been excited for several days about a field trip to a

skating

> rink. I never got any corrospondance from the school about it so I

> called his teacher a few minutes ago, and I am still in tears.

> Apparently, Jake is being excluded from this field trip because he

> displays inappropriate behavior, even when he is in a good mood and

> happy he will shout inappropriate things, and another school is

going

> to be there, so they can't do it. I told his teacher that is was

not

> right to exclude him based on his disability. I asked why can't he

have

> a " personal chaperone " ? She told me that they would still be unable

to

> control him. I would have his social skills therapist go with them,

but

> they do not allow volunteers! I can't even go into my son's class

and

> volunteer, because I was told it would be a privacy violation to

the

> other students, because it is an EBD program. This I need to check

out.

> In the meantime, I'm going to keep Jake home from school that day

and

> take him somewhere, right after I contact PACER! Thanks for letting

me

> vent.

>

> Theresa

>

[Guest guest]

.

> Apparently, Jake is being excluded from this field trip because he

> displays inappropriate behavior, even when he is in a good mood

>and happy he will shout inappropriate things, and another school is

>going to be there, so they can't do it.>>>>>>>>>>>

Theresa,

Whoa hold up that horse as they can't by law do that to you. He

is entitled to a FAPE Free and Approipriate Public Education.

They NEED to provide you with an aide or para-pro to be with Jake

the whole time he is at the skating rink.

Better yet you have the right to go and be his aide.

Oh that just gets my feathers all up and I want to shake some sense

into that teacher says that Jake can't go becaus another school will

be there....so what? Other schools do and always will go on field

trips.

Big HUGS to you.

Marj who has been there and done that and is now homeschooling.

[Guest guest]

I can't even go into my son's class and

> volunteer, because I was told it would be a privacy violation to the

> other students, because it is an EBD program.

I would be worried they are trying to hide something. Your son is a minor

and I'm not thinking this is legal at all. Now I know I'm still new to this

but I would fight this one.

I know we asked to visit the school they are want to send Reggie to and they

are now telling me unless we decide to go this direction that due to privacy

they can't permit it, even though we were told we would have opportunity to

visit. That made me think I wouldn't like what I saw there.

I know from personal experience that due to some of Reggie's outbursts they

didn't want him to participate in the Christmas program at school. That

almost sent me through the phone and I quickly pointed out that was not

permitted because his behaviors are a part of his disability. He ended up

getting sick at school that day so we did not let him go but that may have

been a mistake on my part because I think he was just over heated and

nothing more but they sent him home with an elevated temperature. I was

still a bit naive about some things but am learning quickly.

Suzanne

-- Re: ( ) Excluded from field trip

I am a public school teacher with a 5-year-old daughter with AS. This is

VERY disturbing to me. I have a couple of questions for you. Are field trips

covered in Jake's IEP? If not, what basis are they using to make the

decision about him, other than convenience?

Does your district or the EBD program have a policy for such exclusions? If

not, you can challenge this right up the line if necessary. His disability

should never preclude him from taking part in school events. Their

unwillingness to allow volunteers in the classroom smacks of CYA in the

worst way.

You should not let this drop. Get the whole story and be a pain in their

collective rear ends. Unless they have legal backing to prevent him from

going, it seems to me that they are simply making up reasons not to

inconvenience themselves so your son can have an appropriate educational

experience with his peers.

Get the facts about this decision and make sure whatever decision is made is

in your son's best interests. He's the one protected here. I wish you well.

Mark

On 2/1/06, disorderlybehavior <disorderlybehavior@...> wrote:

>

> Jake has been excited for several days about a field trip to a skating

> rink. I never got any corrospondance from the school about it so I

> called his teacher a few minutes ago, and I am still in tears.

> Apparently, Jake is being excluded from this field trip because he

> displays inappropriate behavior, even when he is in a good mood and

> happy he will shout inappropriate things, and another school is going

> to be there, so they can't do it. I told his teacher that is was not

> right to exclude him based on his disability. I asked why can't he have

> a " personal chaperone " ? She told me that they would still be unable to

> control him. I would have his social skills therapist go with them, but

> they do not allow volunteers! I can't even go into my son's class and

> volunteer, because I was told it would be a privacy violation to the

> other students, because it is an EBD program. This I need to check out.

> In the meantime, I'm going to keep Jake home from school that day and

> take him somewhere, right after I contact PACER! Thanks for letting me

> vent.

>

> Theresa

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Theresa, you need to ask for the school/district policy in writing. Pam

[Guest guest]

Take your son to the skating rink yourself...not as part of the class, just you

& him HAPPEN to show up at the same place.

I had to do that a few times with my own son...it's heart breaking for us on

this side of the issue, and yes, it's illegal on their side.

When our School figured out what kind of trouble they were opening themselves

up for in doing this, they stopped exclueding him....BUT he ALWAYS managed to be

suspended for something the day they were going on a trip.

Hugs & Peace,

Sheri Briley

http://my2.tupperware.com/johnbriley

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Dear theresa,

from what I understand what I've just read. Your son has inappropriate social

skills. the school is responsible to help him with this. excluding him from a

field trip is not teaching your son the appropriate social skills that he needs

to learn. What message are they giving your son? He is being punished before

anything even happened. (and is not aware of being inappropriate) Does your son

go to a social skill program in your school? If it were me, I would bring him

to school to go to that school trip. When they say he can't go. Ask for that

in writing and have them put the reason why he can't go on that trip. it would

be important to get that in writing. When you take this to the next step. you

can include that letter and add how the school refused to help your son with his

social skills that he needs to learn, he missed out on a school trip that ' " his

class " will be going on. If he stayed home that day, include how he had to miss

a day of school because they did not

know how to work with your sons disability and request they get trained on how

to work with your son. best luck to you - Rose

disorderlybehavior <disorderlybehavior@...> wrote:

Jake has been excited for several days about a field trip to a skating

rink. I never got any corrospondance from the school about it so I

called his teacher a few minutes ago, and I am still in tears.

Apparently, Jake is being excluded from this field trip because he

displays inappropriate behavior, even when he is in a good mood and

happy he will shout inappropriate things, and another school is going

to be there, so they can't do it. I told his teacher that is was not

right to exclude him based on his disability. I asked why can't he have

a " personal chaperone " ? She told me that they would still be unable to

control him. I would have his social skills therapist go with them, but

they do not allow volunteers! I can't even go into my son's class and

volunteer, because I was told it would be a privacy violation to the

other students, because it is an EBD program. This I need to check out.

In the meantime, I'm going to keep Jake home from school that day and

take him somewhere, right after I contact PACER! Thanks for letting me

vent.

Theresa

[Guest guest]

Rose,

While I agree with most of what you've said, I have to question the part about

taking him to school to go on the trip. Tempting tho it might be to do that, I

doubt that it would do the child any good to be denied this face-to-face. It

also might cause him even more stress to see his mother get into an argument

with school officials. Unfair, tho it may be, I think his mother has the right

idea to just keep him home from school, then take him some place else for the

day. I totally agree with you that his mom should pursue this matter further,

tho.

-mother of Josh (16) and Sara (13) both AS

Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote:

Dear theresa,

from what I understand what I've just read. Your son has inappropriate social

skills. the school is responsible to help him with this. excluding him from a

field trip is not teaching your son the appropriate social skills that he needs

to learn. What message are they giving your son? He is being punished before

anything even happened. (and is not aware of being inappropriate) Does your son

go to a social skill program in your school? If it were me, I would bring him

to school to go to that school trip. When they say he can't go. Ask for that

in writing and have them put the reason why he can't go on that trip. it would

be important to get that in writing. When you take this to the next step. you

can include that letter and add how the school refused to help your son with his

social skills that he needs to learn, he missed out on a school trip that ' " his

class " will be going on. If he stayed home that day, include how he had to miss

a day of school because they did not

know how to work with your sons disability and request they get trained on how

to work with your son. best luck to you - Rose

disorderlybehavior <disorderlybehavior@...> wrote:

Jake has been excited for several days about a field trip to a skating

rink. I never got any corrospondance from the school about it so I

called his teacher a few minutes ago, and I am still in tears.

Apparently, Jake is being excluded from this field trip because he

displays inappropriate behavior, even when he is in a good mood and

happy he will shout inappropriate things, and another school is going

to be there, so they can't do it. I told his teacher that is was not

right to exclude him based on his disability. I asked why can't he have

a " personal chaperone " ? She told me that they would still be unable to

control him. I would have his social skills therapist go with them, but

they do not allow volunteers! I can't even go into my son's class and

volunteer, because I was told it would be a privacy violation to the

other students, because it is an EBD program. This I need to check out.

In the meantime, I'm going to keep Jake home from school that day and

take him somewhere, right after I contact PACER! Thanks for letting me

vent.

Theresa

[Guest guest]

Its just so unfair that the school would do that to any child. I didn't want

the child to see this. I wanted the school to wake up and see this. Sorry, I

wanted " the best, for the child " . I hope he has a better time having the day

off and spending it with his mom. Then she can give the school a wake up call

so this won't happen again. - Rose

PATRICIA MAIN <mainpatr@...> wrote: Rose,

While I agree with most of what you've said, I have to question the part about

taking him to school to go on the trip. Tempting tho it might be to do that, I

doubt that it would do the child any good to be denied this face-to-face. It

also might cause him even more stress to see his mother get into an argument

with school officials. Unfair, tho it may be, I think his mother has the right

idea to just keep him home from school, then take him some place else for the

day. I totally agree with you that his mom should pursue this matter further,

tho.

-mother of Josh (16) and Sara (13) both AS

Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote:

Dear theresa,

from what I understand what I've just read. Your son has inappropriate social

skills. the school is responsible to help him with this. excluding him from a

field trip is not teaching your son the appropriate social skills that he needs

to learn. What message are they giving your son? He is being punished before

anything even happened. (and is not aware of being inappropriate) Does your son

go to a social skill program in your school? If it were me, I would bring him

to school to go to that school trip. When they say he can't go. Ask for that

in writing and have them put the reason why he can't go on that trip. it would

be important to get that in writing. When you take this to the next step. you

can include that letter and add how the school refused to help your son with his

social skills that he needs to learn, he missed out on a school trip that ' " his

class " will be going on. If he stayed home that day, include how he had to miss

a day of school because they did not

know how to work with your sons disability and request they get trained on how

to work with your son. best luck to you - Rose

disorderlybehavior <disorderlybehavior@...> wrote:

Jake has been excited for several days about a field trip to a skating

rink. I never got any corrospondance from the school about it so I

called his teacher a few minutes ago, and I am still in tears.

Apparently, Jake is being excluded from this field trip because he

displays inappropriate behavior, even when he is in a good mood and

happy he will shout inappropriate things, and another school is going

to be there, so they can't do it. I told his teacher that is was not

right to exclude him based on his disability. I asked why can't he have

a " personal chaperone " ? She told me that they would still be unable to

control him. I would have his social skills therapist go with them, but

they do not allow volunteers! I can't even go into my son's class and

volunteer, because I was told it would be a privacy violation to the

other students, because it is an EBD program. This I need to check out.

In the meantime, I'm going to keep Jake home from school that day and

take him somewhere, right after I contact PACER! Thanks for letting me

vent.

Theresa

[Guest guest]

Rose,

Absolutely! I hope they have a wonderful day! Hopefully, she will let us all

know how things went.

Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote:

Its just so unfair that the school would do that to any child. I didn't want

the child to see this. I wanted the school to wake up and see this. Sorry, I

wanted " the best, for the child " . I hope he has a better time having the day

off and spending it with his mom. Then she can give the school a wake up call

so this won't happen again. - Rose

PATRICIA MAIN <mainpatr@...> wrote: Rose,

While I agree with most of what you've said, I have to question the part about

taking him to school to go on the trip. Tempting tho it might be to do that, I

doubt that it would do the child any good to be denied this face-to-face. It

also might cause him even more stress to see his mother get into an argument

with school officials. Unfair, tho it may be, I think his mother has the right

idea to just keep him home from school, then take him some place else for the

day. I totally agree with you that his mom should pursue this matter further,

tho.

-mother of Josh (16) and Sara (13) both AS

Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote:

Dear theresa,

from what I understand what I've just read. Your son has inappropriate social

skills. the school is responsible to help him with this. excluding him from a

field trip is not teaching your son the appropriate social skills that he needs

to learn. What message are they giving your son? He is being punished before

anything even happened. (and is not aware of being inappropriate) Does your son

go to a social skill program in your school? If it were me, I would bring him

to school to go to that school trip. When they say he can't go. Ask for that

in writing and have them put the reason why he can't go on that trip. it would

be important to get that in writing. When you take this to the next step. you

can include that letter and add how the school refused to help your son with his

social skills that he needs to learn, he missed out on a school trip that ' " his

class " will be going on. If he stayed home that day, include how he had to miss

a day of school because they did not

know how to work with your sons disability and request they get trained on how

to work with your son. best luck to you - Rose

disorderlybehavior <disorderlybehavior@...> wrote:

Jake has been excited for several days about a field trip to a skating

rink. I never got any corrospondance from the school about it so I

called his teacher a few minutes ago, and I am still in tears.

Apparently, Jake is being excluded from this field trip because he

displays inappropriate behavior, even when he is in a good mood and

happy he will shout inappropriate things, and another school is going

to be there, so they can't do it. I told his teacher that is was not

right to exclude him based on his disability. I asked why can't he have

a " personal chaperone " ? She told me that they would still be unable to

control him. I would have his social skills therapist go with them, but

they do not allow volunteers! I can't even go into my son's class and

volunteer, because I was told it would be a privacy violation to the

other students, because it is an EBD program. This I need to check out.

In the meantime, I'm going to keep Jake home from school that day and

take him somewhere, right after I contact PACER! Thanks for letting me

vent.

Theresa

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/2/2006 5:50:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,

suzannex6@... writes:

I know we asked to visit the school they are want to send Reggie to and they

are now telling me unless we decide to go this direction that due to privacy

they can't permit it, even though we were told we would have opportunity to

visit. That made me think I wouldn't like what I saw there.

I would never send my child to a class that I couldn't visit in advance.

How ridiculous.

Roxanna ô¿ö

Autism Happens

[Guest guest]

First I want to thank everyone for their concern and ideas, I am so

grateful that I found this group! I am currently waiting for

P.A.C.E.R. to call me back so I can find out about the privacy issue

with me volunteering, or even " observing " the classroom. I am also

going to ask about him being excluded from the field trip. The day

before his field trip I again talked to his teacher about doing

something special for Jake in place of the field trip, she rented him

a PS2 and a couple of games and he and another student played video

games, ordered pizza and hotwings, and had popcorn. When this was

explained to Jake, his response was " COOL! I don't really like

skating anyway! " Jake's teacher is awsome, it was not her decision

that Jake be excluded, it was the program director, whom I have had

problems with in the past when I do not agree with her suggestions or

decisions, it was also her decision that I not be allowed in the

classroom. She has been a constant pain in my side! I have also found

out that I am not her only " target " , but this target is not going to

allow her to keep up her intimidation tactics, I can't wait for pacer

to call me back so I can get my childrens rights on paper and present

them to her in a very proffesional manner, in writing, cc'd to the

county, the school district, and the transportation dept(we have

had " bus " issues too). Anyway, wanted to let you know that his day

did go very well, but I am still pursuing his rights and mine as a

parent. Thanks again for your input and concern. <hugs> to you all!

Theresa

-- In , PATRICIA MAIN <mainpatr@...>

wrote:

>

> Rose,

> Absolutely! I hope they have a wonderful day! Hopefully, she

will let us all know how things went.

>

>

> Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote:

> Its just so unfair that the school would do that to any child. I

didn't want the child to see this. I wanted the school to wake up

and see this. Sorry, I wanted " the best, for the child " . I hope he

has a better time having the day off and spending it with his mom.

Then she can give the school a wake up call so this won't happen

again. - Rose

>

> PATRICIA MAIN <mainpatr@...> wrote: Rose,

> While I agree with most of what you've said, I have to question

the part about taking him to school to go on the trip. Tempting tho

it might be to do that, I doubt that it would do the child any good

to be denied this face-to-face. It also might cause him even more

stress to see his mother get into an argument with school officials.

Unfair, tho it may be, I think his mother has the right idea to just

keep him home from school, then take him some place else for the

day. I totally agree with you that his mom should pursue this matter

further, tho.

> -mother of Josh (16) and Sara (13) both AS

>

> Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote:

> Dear theresa,

> from what I understand what I've just read. Your son has

inappropriate social skills. the school is responsible to help him

with this. excluding him from a field trip is not teaching your son

the appropriate social skills that he needs to learn. What message

are they giving your son? He is being punished before anything even

happened. (and is not aware of being inappropriate) Does your son go

to a social skill program in your school? If it were me, I would

bring him to school to go to that school trip. When they say he

can't go. Ask for that in writing and have them put the reason why

he can't go on that trip. it would be important to get that in

writing. When you take this to the next step. you can include that

letter and add how the school refused to help your son with his

social skills that he needs to learn, he missed out on a school trip

that ' " his class " will be going on. If he stayed home that day,

include how he had to miss a day of school because they did not

> know how to work with your sons disability and request they get

trained on how to work with your son. best luck to you - Rose

> disorderlybehavior <disorderlybehavior@...> wrote:

> Jake has been excited for several days about a field trip to a

skating

> rink. I never got any corrospondance from the school about it so I

> called his teacher a few minutes ago, and I am still in tears.

> Apparently, Jake is being excluded from this field trip because he

> displays inappropriate behavior, even when he is in a good mood and

> happy he will shout inappropriate things, and another school is

going

> to be there, so they can't do it. I told his teacher that is was

not

> right to exclude him based on his disability. I asked why can't he

have

> a " personal chaperone " ? She told me that they would still be unable

to

> control him. I would have his social skills therapist go with them,

but

> they do not allow volunteers! I can't even go into my son's class

and

> volunteer, because I was told it would be a privacy violation to

the

> other students, because it is an EBD program. This I need to check

out.

> In the meantime, I'm going to keep Jake home from school that day

and

> take him somewhere, right after I contact PACER! Thanks for letting

me

> vent.

>

> Theresa

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

LOL! I thought of that, unfortunately, I called the skating rink and

they were not open to the public during that time. It would have been

awsome though if I could have done that!

Theresa

>

> Take your son to the skating rink yourself...not as part of the

class, just you & him HAPPEN to show up at the same place.

> I had to do that a few times with my own son...it's heart

breaking for us on this side of the issue, and yes, it's illegal on

their side.

> When our School figured out what kind of trouble they were

opening themselves up for in doing this, they stopped exclueding

him....BUT he ALWAYS managed to be suspended for something the day

they were going on a trip.

>

>

>

>

> Hugs & Peace,

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> Sheri Briley

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Hi,

I'm glad to hear your son had a great day after all. thats important. I'm

also glad to hear he has an understanding teacher as well. Please keep us

posted on the other issues. best luck & hugs to you - Rose

disorderlybehavior <disorderlybehavior@...> wrote:

First I want to thank everyone for their concern and ideas, I am so

grateful that I found this group! I am currently waiting for

P.A.C.E.R. to call me back so I can find out about the privacy issue

with me volunteering, or even " observing " the classroom. I am also

going to ask about him being excluded from the field trip. The day

before his field trip I again talked to his teacher about doing

something special for Jake in place of the field trip, she rented him

a PS2 and a couple of games and he and another student played video

games, ordered pizza and hotwings, and had popcorn. When this was

explained to Jake, his response was " COOL! I don't really like

skating anyway! " Jake's teacher is awsome, it was not her decision

that Jake be excluded, it was the program director, whom I have had

problems with in the past when I do not agree with her suggestions or

decisions, it was also her decision that I not be allowed in the

classroom. She has been a constant pain in my side! I have also found

out that I am not her only " target " , but this target is not going to

allow her to keep up her intimidation tactics, I can't wait for pacer

to call me back so I can get my childrens rights on paper and present

them to her in a very proffesional manner, in writing, cc'd to the

county, the school district, and the transportation dept(we have

had " bus " issues too). Anyway, wanted to let you know that his day

did go very well, but I am still pursuing his rights and mine as a

parent. Thanks again for your input and concern. <hugs> to you all!

Theresa

-- In , PATRICIA MAIN <mainpatr@...>

wrote:

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> Rose,

> Absolutely! I hope they have a wonderful day! Hopefully, she

will let us all know how things went.

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> Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote:

> Its just so unfair that the school would do that to any child. I

didn't want the child to see this. I wanted the school to wake up

and see this. Sorry, I wanted " the best, for the child " . I hope he

has a better time having the day off and spending it with his mom.

Then she can give the school a wake up call so this won't happen

again. - Rose

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> PATRICIA MAIN <mainpatr@...> wrote: Rose,

> While I agree with most of what you've said, I have to question

the part about taking him to school to go on the trip. Tempting tho

it might be to do that, I doubt that it would do the child any good

to be denied this face-to-face. It also might cause him even more

stress to see his mother get into an argument with school officials.

Unfair, tho it may be, I think his mother has the right idea to just

keep him home from school, then take him some place else for the

day. I totally agree with you that his mom should pursue this matter

further, tho.

> -mother of Josh (16) and Sara (13) both AS

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> Rose <beachbodytan2002@...> wrote:

> Dear theresa,

> from what I understand what I've just read. Your son has

inappropriate social skills. the school is responsible to help him

with this. excluding him from a field trip is not teaching your son

the appropriate social skills that he needs to learn. What message

are they giving your son? He is being punished before anything even

happened. (and is not aware of being inappropriate) Does your son go

to a social skill program in your school? If it were me, I would

bring him to school to go to that school trip. When they say he

can't go. Ask for that in writing and have them put the reason why

he can't go on that trip. it would be important to get that in

writing. When you take this to the next step. you can include that

letter and add how the school refused to help your son with his

social skills that he needs to learn, he missed out on a school trip

that ' " his class " will be going on. If he stayed home that day,

include how he had to miss a day of school because they did not

> know how to work with your sons disability and request they get

trained on how to work with your son. best luck to you - Rose

> disorderlybehavior <disorderlybehavior@...> wrote:

> Jake has been excited for several days about a field trip to a

skating

> rink. I never got any corrospondance from the school about it so I

> called his teacher a few minutes ago, and I am still in tears.

> Apparently, Jake is being excluded from this field trip because he

> displays inappropriate behavior, even when he is in a good mood and

> happy he will shout inappropriate things, and another school is

going

> to be there, so they can't do it. I told his teacher that is was

not

> right to exclude him based on his disability. I asked why can't he

have

> a " personal chaperone " ? She told me that they would still be unable

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> control him. I would have his social skills therapist go with them,

but

> they do not allow volunteers! I can't even go into my son's class

and

> volunteer, because I was told it would be a privacy violation to

the

> other students, because it is an EBD program. This I need to check

out.

> In the meantime, I'm going to keep Jake home from school that day

and

> take him somewhere, right after I contact PACER! Thanks for letting

me

> vent.

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