New supplements - questions?

[Guest guest]

My 3 year old son (Autism Spectrum, severe Sensory Integration

Dysfunction, migraines, leaky gut) recently went up to the Pfeiffer

Treatment Center in Chicago for evaulation/treatment.

We know that he has pretty bad leaky gut. We thought for sure he has

yeast, but 2 stool analysis and microscopic blood inspections have

both shown no yeast. Historically he has 5-7 bowel movements per day.

When he goes on Primal Defense probiotic, stools drop to 1-2/day.

I've challenged the Primal Defense by stopping it, and sure enough the

very next day his BM's increase to the 5-7. He reacts very quickly to

things.

He has also been on AFP Peptizyde for a month with the thought that if

we don't see improvements, then we will do the GF/CF diet (we are

already CF for over a year). I have not seen any indications that

Peptizyde is doing anything so we will most likely be starting the

diet this week.

This past week, he started on the supplement program prescribed by

Pfeiffer. In addition to his Primal Defense, Peptizyde and Omega Oils

(which we were already doing), he now takes Vit C, Vit E, Vit B6, B6

phosphate, Biotin, Methyl B12 cream, calcium/magnesium, molybdenum,

magnesium glycinate, No Phenol, and Zinc.

His BM's have increased even more than they were before. In the last

few days, he has had 10/day, 5 or 6 another day, and had 8 today! I

also noticed this morning he has a red ring around his anus. I'm new

to this, so does anyone have any ideas if the increased bowel

movements are to be expected? Also, I thought maybe the red ring is

from too much Vit C?

Stacie

[Guest guest]

Hi-- wish I could get some of the too-frequent-bm's problem to rub

off on my daughter--she's the opposite! ;-)

FWIW, I have a friend whose dd is constipated and SID and she's now

able to have a couple of bm's a day on the pfeiffer supp's, too. So

I was not surprised to read that your child is now having more on

them, too.

I'm guessing it is the vitamin C, too. The red ring is not something

I would worry about unless it persists for more than a few days.

That is, it could be a temporary sensitivity to one of the supp's

and/or yeast could be flaring up, but it may go away in a few days,

so I would just watch it and then make adjustments if it doesn't

change in a few days. You could try giving less C or stopping the C

for a few days to see if the amount of bm's slows down a bit.

W

>> This past week, he started on the supplement program prescribed by

> Pfeiffer. In addition to his Primal Defense, Peptizyde and Omega

Oils

> (which we were already doing), he now takes Vit C, Vit E, Vit B6, B6

> phosphate, Biotin, Methyl B12 cream, calcium/magnesium, molybdenum,

> magnesium glycinate, No Phenol, and Zinc.

>

> His BM's have increased even more than they were before. In the last

> few days, he has had 10/day, 5 or 6 another day, and had 8 today! I

> also noticed this morning he has a red ring around his anus. I'm

new

> to this, so does anyone have any ideas if the increased bowel

> movements are to be expected? Also, I thought maybe the red ring is

> from too much Vit C?

>

> Stacie

[Guest guest]

Hi Stacie,

Did you see any tartaric acid on his tests?It is a byproduct of yeast . My

sons mycology stated no yeast but he had levels of tartaric acid showing up

so I started to treat him with candigone by Renew Life .I am seeing die off

symptoms so I think we hit the nail on the head.

R

[Guest guest]

> This past week, he started on the supplement program prescribed by

> Pfeiffer. In addition to his Primal Defense, Peptizyde and Omega Oils

> (which we were already doing), he now takes Vit C, Vit E, Vit B6, B6

> phosphate, Biotin, Methyl B12 cream, calcium/magnesium, molybdenum,

> magnesium glycinate, No Phenol, and Zinc.

B6 can feed yeast, so he might have a yeast problem now. Try

increasing his probiotics, see if that helps.

Biotin depletes magnesium, which is probably why you are giving extra

magnesium. But depending on how much mg you give per day, that might

be the problem.

Vitamin C can also cause this problem.

> also noticed this morning he has a red ring around his anus.

This can be several things, including yeast.

Did you add all those supplements separately? If not, you can remove

all of them, then add them back one at a time, to figure out which

one/s are causing the problem.

Dana