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Kari: I am interested in this also. My nephew is 8 years old, not

autistic. But he also has meltdowns as you have described. He has been

tested in school for ADD and Dyslexia and was left back to 2 grade this past

year. My sister knows that they are missing something. I am going to see

her tomorrow because I told her of what we are doing and about 's book.

I told her I wanted her to read the book and she will see her son. So all

out there, I am interested also. Eileen

>From: " Kari Trautman " <karitrautman@...>

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>Subject: OT: Meltdowns

>Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 23:41:41 -0800

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>My 3 yr old is not autistic, yet does definitely have signs of mercury

>poisoning to some extent. Which I am looking to address. But when he gets

>overtired or perhaps something bothering him, his meltdowns just don't seen

>normal. Others' will say it's a stage and he's just tantruming, but I'm

>wondering if others have advice as to how to handle them. He simplely

>can't regroup. Like a broken record in his head, he can't let something

>go. We're trying a little GSE so that could be the case for tonight, but

>he got upset because he couldn't put the spaghetti on his own plate and

>pitched a fit. That went on, and on, and on. Finally after almost 2

>hours, we gave him what he wanted and he was fine. Fine, but obviously

>exhausted after crying for 2 hours! He ate peacefully, and went straight

>to bed. Although I did try to hold out thinking it was some sort of battle

>of wills, I know in my heart it wasn't that.

>I believe it is his neurotransmitters that are like inflamed and he can't

>shut off his emotions, but was wondering if others have a way for dealing

>with this obsessive type of behavior? In some ways I did exactly what they

>say not to do, (don't give in to your child's demands or else you teach

>them the trick is to cry for 2 hours and you get your way), yet I didn't

>have the stamina to hold out for how ever many hours it would take for him

>to finally passout. If that is he every would!

>Thanks,

>Kari

>

>

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We didn't really start having tantrums until my child was 3. I had three older

children so I knew immediately that these tantrums were not like what I'd seen

in the past.

I don't have any magic answers, but I'd say that it certainly wouldn't hurt to

try something like enzymes or other interventions.

When my child had these early tantrums we could have held out for days and it

wouldn't have made any difference. She just couldn't grasp it and she couldn't

let go of whatever was the trigger.

Good luck.

OT: Meltdowns

My 3 yr old is not autistic, yet does definitely have signs of mercury

poisoning to some extent. Which I am looking to address. But when he gets

overtired or perhaps something bothering him, his meltdowns just don't seen

normal. Others' will say it's a stage and he's just tantruming, but I'm

wondering if others have advice as to how to handle them. He simplely can't

regroup. Like a broken record in his head, he can't let something go. We're

trying a little GSE so that could be the case for tonight, but he got upset

because he couldn't put the spaghetti on his own plate and pitched a fit. That

went on, and on, and on. Finally after almost 2 hours, we gave him what he

wanted and he was fine. Fine, but obviously exhausted after crying for 2 hours!

He ate peacefully, and went straight to bed. Although I did try to hold out

thinking it was some sort of battle of wills, I know in my heart it wasn't that.

I believe it is his neurotransmitters that are like inflamed and he can't shut

off his emotions, but was wondering if others have a way for dealing with this

obsessive type of behavior? In some ways I did exactly what they say not to do,

(don't give in to your child's demands or else you teach them the trick is to

cry for 2 hours and you get your way), yet I didn't have the stamina to hold

out for how ever many hours it would take for him to finally passout. If that

is he every would!

Thanks,

Kari

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With my daughter (she's 4 now) I can definately tell a difference

between meltdowns and temper tantrums. Meltdowns I had to give in to

whatever and just love her; temper tantrums I hold my ground and she

comes around very quickly. So I believe the rules about not giving

in don't apply to meltdowns. I've several reasons for meltdowns with

my daughter-tired, hungry, virus (OCD will appear causing the

meltdown), & yeast (certain things will bother her like a bath but

she's unable to tell me this). I'm very insistent on her getting her

sleep and meals on time-wow, this was huge when I figured this out,

took care of many meltdowns. Glasses and vision therapy also helped

along with everything I've learned on this board! I believe that the

yeast and bacteria problems are in many kids with no diagnosis.

Best Wishes!

Becky

> My 3 yr old is not autistic, yet does definitely have signs of

mercury poisoning to some extent. Which I am looking to address.

But when he gets overtired or perhaps something bothering him, his

meltdowns just don't seen normal. Others' will say it's a stage and

he's just tantruming, but I'm wondering if others have advice as to

how to handle them. He simplely can't regroup. Like a broken record

in his head, he can't let something go. We're trying a little GSE so

that could be the case for tonight, but he got upset because he

couldn't put the spaghetti on his own plate and pitched a fit. That

went on, and on, and on. Finally after almost 2 hours, we gave him

what he wanted and he was fine. Fine, but obviously exhausted after

crying for 2 hours! He ate peacefully, and went straight to bed.

Although I did try to hold out thinking it was some sort of battle of

wills, I know in my heart it wasn't that.

> I believe it is his neurotransmitters that are like inflamed and he

can't shut off his emotions, but was wondering if others have a way

for dealing with this obsessive type of behavior? In some ways I did

exactly what they say not to do, (don't give in to your child's

demands or else you teach them the trick is to cry for 2 hours and

you get your way), yet I didn't have the stamina to hold out for how

ever many hours it would take for him to finally passout. If that is

he every would!

> Thanks,

> Kari

>

>

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Thanks to everyone for their responses. Even if we know things in our hearts,

it really helps to hear from others. I swear it's like being tapped into these

kids makes us (or me...) a little nuts!

Everyone's reply did help me keep going.

Thanks again,

Kari

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