Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Hi, Do you the manufacturer of ENZYM-ED? I found an seemingly independant/non-commercial study about the use of ENZYM-ED in autism treatment, with reported success rates of 90%: http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is _243/ai_109946536/pg_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 >>>> Do you the manufacturer of ENZYM-ED? It's a misspelling...it is supposed to be about EnzymAid by Kirkman which come on market before Peptizyde. You are correct it isn't a non- commercial study. Many of the people doing the study are Kirkman employees or get regular checks from Kirkman. This product was trying to deal with the casein/gluten problem but it was rather a dud in real life. And you definitely couldn't have infractions or come close to replacing the GFCF diet. The idea was the product would somehow induce your body to create the right enzymes. It just didn't pan out to anything. When Peptizyde was developed which could replace a GFCF diet easily for many, and allow good protein digestion and support if you chose to stay GFCF, this group who worked on the 'Enzym-ED' was pretty bitter and tried to discredit the entire idea. But success stayed and eventually even Kirkman tried to copy Houston's products. The copies aren't as effective/good, but that is understandable in a way. Devin Houston is a professional highly experienced and trained enzymes expert. These types are few and far between and most other companies don't have one so they try to approximate others. There is an art and science to enzyme formulations which can produce great differences in the final result. It is probably like working with probiotics. If you don't handle them right and know what you are doing, you can unintentionally kill a bunch of it off so the final product isn't active in your gut. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Thank you very much for your comments. But how do you know all that " inside " information about HNI/Kirkman? I have been searching on the net for info about the credibility of these companies, for example quantitative test results proving the effectiveness of Peptizyde, but didn't find anything besides lots of testimonials. I don't say that these testimonials are false, but from my experience it's too easy on the internet to be transvestite. > > >>>> Do you the manufacturer of ENZYM-ED? > > It's a misspelling...it is supposed to be about EnzymAid by Kirkman > which come on market before Peptizyde. You are correct it isn't a non- > commercial study. Many of the people doing the study are Kirkman > employees or get regular checks from Kirkman. > > This product was trying to deal with the casein/gluten problem but it > was rather a dud in real life. And you definitely couldn't have > infractions or come close to replacing the GFCF diet. The idea was > the product would somehow induce your body to create the right > enzymes. It just didn't pan out to anything. > > When Peptizyde was developed which could replace a GFCF diet easily > for many, and allow good protein digestion and support if you chose > to stay GFCF, this group who worked on the 'Enzym-ED' was pretty > bitter and tried to discredit the entire idea. > > But success stayed and eventually even Kirkman tried to copy > Houston's products. The copies aren't as effective/good, but that is > understandable in a way. Devin Houston is a professional highly > experienced and trained enzymes expert. These types are few and far > between and most other companies don't have one so they try to > approximate others. There is an art and science to enzyme > formulations which can produce great differences in the final result. > It is probably like working with probiotics. If you don't handle them > right and know what you are doing, you can unintentionally kill a > bunch of it off so the final product isn't active in your gut. > > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 >>>>But how do you know all that " inside " information about HNI/Kirkman? Managed to live through it. It was a well-publicized series of events at the start of the enzymes and autism alternative that lasted over a year to 2 years...you can search the archives of this group as well as several other groups. Some of the diet and autism sites still have remnants up. It isn't that 'inside' or a big secret - just past history. Write me privately if you have other questions on this. >>>for example quantitative test results proving the effectiveness of Peptizyde, but didn't find anything besides lots of testimonials. I don't say that these testimonials are false, but from my experience it's too easy on the internet to be transvestite. You are correct. The quantitative studies are harder to do and expensive although there are many clinical studies done listed in the Enzymes for Autism book that deal will various aspects of it. In a way, it is much easier to try it and just find out. Safety isn't an issue like with other measures and any improvements usually appear relatively quickly. Also, enzymes are over the counter items which do not require the extensive FDA and medical testing that other avenues do. I wanted substantial reasons and 'proof' too in the beginning because I don't do something just because it is a fad - have never been that way. But I have a masters in science and was already very familiar with the history and mechanisms of enzymes. Still, my husband and I did our fair share of checking into things. Even ran the idea by two doctors and a nutritionist we saw regularly. There are enough snake- oil wacko things being hyped to parents to go around...so your caution is good. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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