Re: Reaction to Peptizyde but not ZymePrime?

[Guest guest]

Your son does not eat much in the way of starches or carbs, which is

what Zyme Prime works on, but does eat a lot of meat (protein) which

is what Peptizyde works on.

What you are seeing is probably a withdrawal reaction due to lowered

exorphin peptides, plus he has been on a yeast treatment program.

The poo and gas is probably fermented by-products of the yeast die-

off, in other words, a gut cleansing is occurring. He may not be

constipated, but may have less stool in his system because the

enzymes are breaking it down more, and more of it is absorbed, not

excreted.

The behavioral reactions should taper off in the next few days if it

is the withdrawal, if it does not resolve, or gets worse, it may be

some sort of allergic response.

> Hi, I apologize if this issue has been asked before. My son just

> finished his first bottle of Zyme-Prime (one capsule with each

major

> meal) and we saw no reaction. I had been warned about initial

> regression when starting enzymes, but we noticed no change at all -

> good or bad. My son is GFCFSF and eats only meat, veggies, and no

> corn, potatoes, rice or sugars. He only gets a bit of diluted pear

> juice for his supps and one pear sauce a day or every other day. He

> finished 10 days of Flagyl about 2 weeks ago and is in his 4th

week of

> Diflucan. Both bacteria and yeast are major issues for him.

>

> He currently craves meat and that's all he wants to eat. This began

> when he started Flagyl, Diflucan, and Zyme-Prime (all started

around

> the same time). We ran out of Zyme-Prime a few days ago and started

> him on AFP Peptizyde (I don't know why we didn't start Peptizyde

first

> or give concurrently with Zyme-Prime, we just didn't think of it, I

> guess). He gets one capsule with each major meal, 3 times a day.

>

> In the last few days, we have seen an increase in stimming, (hand

> flapping, babbling to his hand, fascination with ceiling lights and

> his shadow, shrieking). He also has constipation and rancid

smelling

> gas. He reeks of poo, but it's only gas. When he does poo, it's

mushy,

> explosive and full of rice looking things and white beads.

>

> I guess my overall question is how do I know if this is a reaction

to

> the Peptizyde or if it means the Peptizyde is working. Is this the

> reaction that other parents warned us about? We didn't see it with

> Zyme-Prime. Is that maybe because Peptizyde is more beneficial for

the

> foods Noah eats?

>

> I appreciate your help!

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> Mom to Noah Partha, 29 months

[Guest guest]

LOL , I remember that time here - phew!!

MAndi in UK

> Otherwise, I think they're going to quarantine our house due

> to the rancid smell that filters out of our son's room! :-)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Devin,

Thank you SO much! I feel a lot better now - and it helps to know that

I'd been giving the wrong enzyme. Gosh, I feel foolish over that!

Hopefully, though, we'll start to see a change once the Peptizyde

kicks in. Otherwise, I think they're going to quarantine our house due

to the rancid smell that filters out of our son's room! :-)

Thank you!

Mom to Noah Partha, 29 months

[Guest guest]

,

I'll just chime in here too to reinforce what Devin said. In general,

the adjustment effects to Zyme Prime are not nearly as great as to

the other enzyme products. And your son wasn't eating much in the way

of foods Zyme Prime generally targets. That doesn't mean it wasn't

doing any good. It could have very gently gotten his body more used

to enzymes/food breakdown and so your adjustment to the Peptizyde is

not as severe as it could be.

Then when you add the Peptizyde you are getting direct food breakdown

of the foods in his diet, PLUS gut cleaning out, PLUS direct impact

on killing yeast and bacteria (as evidenced in the stools). So

multiple issues at once.

Oh...also, the Peptizyde may be enhancing the effectiveness of the

anti-fungal meds you are giving.

My younger son had The Smell! So I know what you mean. If you are not

giving a probiotic right now, I would suggest looking for

one...particularly Culturelle. I gave the 20 billion strength type 3

times a day for a while, then dropped down to 1 capsule a day. That

will help put some good bacteria in the gut to replace the yucky

ones. Yogurt is good too if that is permitted in your son's diet.

Give it a week to get better, and post over this weekend on how he is

doing. If he gets really miserable, you can cut back on the Peptizyde

dose a bit. The die-off/adjustment will be slower but more tolerable.

You can also consider epsom salts to help with detox:

www.enzymestuff.com/epsomsalts.htm

All in all, this indicates the Peptizyde is working just wonderfully

and you are doing everything right.

.

[Guest guest]

,

Thank you so much!!! Your email really made me feel a lot better. I

had heard so much about how great enzymes are and how a lot of kids

were able to reduce their supplements (and eat regular food again) by

going on them - but I hadn't noticed any difference. Thank goodness I

found out that we were giving the wrong type for Noah's diet. I am

really excited to see what these next few weeks bring and now am

confident that we can " wait it out " while Noah's adjusting to the

Peptizyde. Am also excited to hear that Peptizyde can help work on

the bacteria and other issues. And guess what? This is the third day

we've been on Peptizyde and Noah's not craving meat as much. He

actually ate veggies today and ignored the meat! Just like old times.

That's an improvement, at least. Now if we can just get that rancid

gas to go away! :-)

Oh, and Mandi - am so glad you can relate to the smell. I know that

other mom's must wonder what on earth I'm feeding my kid for him to

end up smelling like that! I noticed you said that you remember The

Smell. I guess that means you don't have to live with it anymore.

Can't wait until we reach that point! :-)

Thanks!

Mom to Noah Partha, 29 months