Re: TEARFUL OUTBURSTS AND ANXIETY - URGENT--Maybe..

[Guest guest]

> Hi, its a long time since I have posted a question, and meantime my little

boy, now 7, has been doing pretty well..........still speaking in short

sentences or less, mostly requesting, some comments, but settling well, up to

now, into school - mainstream with support. He is reading, spelling, improving

in writing but can type readily when tired as his handwriting is still delayed,

and also counting quite well, tho struggling a bit with the introduction of

addition. But socially, he is still reluctant to mix with anyone new, does not

react well to new people in our home [friends visited at the weekend] and still

not asking questions or just 'chatting' much, except about his videos!

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> The slowing of progress, despite using the sc diet and various measures

[sacro-b, more probiotics, wholly immune support] to raise his S-IgA, prompted

me recently to introduce the Houston Zyme Prime, in order to do two things, I

hoped..............

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> -widen diet choices

> -bring more cognitive and speech improvements

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> HOWEVER, while falling asleep seemed to improve - he tends to be awake late -

at first, even on a tiny dose of the zyme, his anxiety and mood worsened

quickly.

> I put this down to being one of the unfortunate temporary side-effects and

stopped for a week, deciding to reintroduce and to not increase dosing so fast

this time.

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> BUT - Now two weeks into using them again, and staying very low on dosing,

has still been having these outbursts of tears, and now has had two today

at school, to the point of disrupting class and having to be taken out.

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> His carbs are very low, due to the sc diet [no rice, potatoes, grains, very

little fruit still] but I wonder if the use of enzymes for the carbs he gets

could be causing die-off still?

>

> Or, could it just be that these enzymes disagree with him?

> Should I stop now or try and hold out for the third week, since most

side-effects apparently last only about 3 weeks?

>

> It seems the tears COULD be caused by some of the videos in his head getting

to upsetting parts, as he seems to be saying some stuff connected to that

sometimes - but usually he is crying so much its hard to tell. However, there is

no food or visible antecedent, so it does seem to be something in his head doing

it.

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> HOW DO WE GET RID OF THESE PICTURES IN HIS HEAD THAT UPSET HIM SO MUCH?

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> AND HOW DO I REDUCE HIS ANXIETY?

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> in Scotland

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[Guest guest]

I would think you are correct about it possibly being further die-off. We

too had a period where nightmares were intense, I believe that is part of

what prompted the rotation of treatments for us, Culturelle helped also I

believe. For us, social improvements grew the most with Ojibwa tea. We saw

nightmares become more of an issue as his ability for pretend play

increased. We saw it as a jump in cognition level, but hampered a bit by the

emotional roller coaster he found himself on. We did a few things, like I

said we rotated the GSE, OLE and OoO after that, we started using Culturelle

shortly after that too, so maybe that helped stop it. But mostly we played

into it (checked the closet, gave him a flashlight and pretend billy club,

lots of stuffed animals in bed, came to him when he cried out from a

nightmare) . Most 5-10 yr. olds are scared of things that go bump in the

night, it's just with our kids it's kicked up a few decibels by their

central nervous systems having a hard time regulating. Yeast die off makes

me emotional too, and I don't sleep real well, tired all the time, but no

solid sleep, nightmares, toss and turn, etc. Firm back rubs are what some

have suggested, including Dr. Megson, but that's just to get you through it.

To get you past it, I agree that you're going to have to uncover the

underlying trigger. For us it was yeast and bacteria, I believe that was it

anyway. Since we rotate GSE, OoO and OLE I notice we don't get nightly

nightmares any longer, but we also introduced Culturelle at about the same

time ( do to some brief improvements on antibiotics last year), so hard to

say if it's one or the other or both. Good luck to you and your munchkin.

Re: TEARFUL OUTBURSTS AND ANXIETY - URGENT--Maybe..

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> > Hi, its a long time since I have posted a question, and meantime my

little boy, now 7, has been doing pretty well..........still speaking in

short sentences or less, mostly requesting, some comments, but settling

well, up to now, into school - mainstream with support. He is reading,

spelling, improving in writing but can type readily when tired as his

handwriting is still delayed, and also counting quite well, tho struggling a

bit with the introduction of addition. But socially, he is still reluctant

to mix with anyone new, does not react well to new people in our home

[friends visited at the weekend] and still not asking questions or just

'chatting' much, except about his videos!

> >

> > The slowing of progress, despite using the sc diet and various measures

[sacro-b, more probiotics, wholly immune support] to raise his S-IgA,

prompted me recently to introduce the Houston Zyme Prime, in order to do two

things, I hoped..............

> >

> > -widen diet choices

> > -bring more cognitive and speech improvements

> >

> > HOWEVER, while falling asleep seemed to improve - he tends to be awake

late - at first, even on a tiny dose of the zyme, his anxiety and mood

worsened quickly.

> > I put this down to being one of the unfortunate temporary side-effects

and stopped for a week, deciding to reintroduce and to not increase dosing

so fast this time.

> >

> > BUT - Now two weeks into using them again, and staying very low on

dosing, has still been having these outbursts of tears, and now has

had two today at school, to the point of disrupting class and having to be

taken out.

> >

> > His carbs are very low, due to the sc diet [no rice, potatoes, grains,

very little fruit still] but I wonder if the use of enzymes for the carbs he

gets could be causing die-off still?

> >

> > Or, could it just be that these enzymes disagree with him?

> > Should I stop now or try and hold out for the third week, since most

side-effects apparently last only about 3 weeks?

> >

> > It seems the tears COULD be caused by some of the videos in his head

getting to upsetting parts, as he seems to be saying some stuff connected to

that sometimes - but usually he is crying so much its hard to tell. However,

there is no food or visible antecedent, so it does seem to be something in

his head doing it.

> >

> > HOW DO WE GET RID OF THESE PICTURES IN HIS HEAD THAT UPSET HIM SO MUCH?

> >

> > AND HOW DO I REDUCE HIS ANXIETY?

> >

> > in Scotland

> >

> >

> >

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removed]...................... REPLY......I just read the info on the BED

diet, from the ANDI page, and in it is the suggestion that adding anything

new and getting 'upsets' is still a Herxheimer (withdrawal type) reaction.

Perhaps if you tried using the baking soda water doses? That is recommended

for the Herxeimer melt downs. This is also what the writer of that diet page

says causes the 1 step forward, 3 steps back display in recovering. Let us

know if you try the Baking soda and water and if it 'works'. Also, there's

the DMG try, the Melatonin, the 5-HTP, which has the tryptophan, as does

turkey and milk, Folic Acid tabs, B6 and Magnesium... sometimes they need

more of the B vitamins, sometimes less because the enzymes make nutrients

more available. Do you have some 'professional' helping you with his

protocol that you might ask about these items? Info about some of them is

found on the Center for the Study of Autism, out of!

> Oregon, USA... www.autism.org and ossibly on the Great Plains

Laboratory web site. grandma peg

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