nightcal - brainchilds help please

[Guest guest]

Hi Kay,

My sympathies! We have been using Nightcal for what seems like forever. We

too suffered with the teeth grinding. Poor is having such a tough

time trying to keep the liquid stable, he really has tried hard.

Anyway, ages ago made me aware that the grinding was probably a

calcium shortage not a magnesium shortage as I had previously believed. The

nightcal sorted the problem out. Armed with that knowledge I have gone back to

using Kirkmans calcium powder and magnesum capsules as I was using this pre

nightcal. The calcium is not the best as it is 75% carbonate and 25% citrate.

However, for the amount needs we could not get enough citrate into him

as it has a larger bulk. Plus, we found that the citrate by itself has a

very grainy texture which is not very nice.

If it is any help to you at all, we are using quarter teaspoon calcium

powder three times a day. As we use Brainchild minerals and also a little

epsom

salt cream a day I only use the tiniest amount of magnesium with his bedtime

drink (and I do mean tiny!). The main difference is that Kirkmans recommend

taking the calcium with food. He gets two with snacks but I do not give him

food with his bedtime drink.

At the moment I can say that we seem to be pretty stable. Just occasionally

I hear the slightest grinding but when I do I just cut out the magnesium in

his last drink.

Hope this might help you.

[Guest guest]

Hello everyone

I have just phoned my supplier (I'm a UK resident) for a re-order of

nightcal, to be told that it has been discontinued due to a problem

with stability of the product. I'm a big fan of this product. My 4 yr

old boy has been taking it for a year now and I'd forggotten what

teeth grinding was. It also seemed to help with his anxiety.

There's a lot of us nightcal users out there and I wondered what

people were using as a substitute until Lang is able to sort

the problem out. Soon I hope

Thanks

Kay

[Guest guest]

Hi

Thanks for your reply. I'll have a look at the Kirkman's product.

Does anyone know if this is a glitch that intends to sort

out or has the product been abandoned ... Terri?

Thanks again

Kay

> Hi Kay,

>

> My sympathies! We have been using Nightcal for what seems like

forever. We

> too suffered with the teeth grinding. Poor is having such

a tough

> time trying to keep the liquid stable, he really has tried hard.

>

> Anyway, ages ago made me aware that the grinding was

probably a

> calcium shortage not a magnesium shortage as I had previously

believed. The

> nightcal sorted the problem out. Armed with that knowledge I have

gone back to

> using Kirkmans calcium powder and magnesum capsules as I was using

this pre

> nightcal. The calcium is not the best as it is 75% carbonate and

25% citrate.

> However, for the amount needs we could not get enough

citrate into him

> as it has a larger bulk. Plus, we found that the citrate by

itself has a

> very grainy texture which is not very nice.

>

> If it is any help to you at all, we are using quarter teaspoon

calcium

> powder three times a day. As we use Brainchild minerals and also a

little epsom

> salt cream a day I only use the tiniest amount of magnesium with

his bedtime

> drink (and I do mean tiny!). The main difference is that Kirkmans

recommend

> taking the calcium with food. He gets two with snacks but I do

not give him

> food with his bedtime drink.

>

> At the moment I can say that we seem to be pretty stable. Just

occasionally

> I hear the slightest grinding but when I do I just cut out the

magnesium in

> his last drink.

>

> Hope this might help you.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kay,

Sadly, this is true. We have discontinued NightCal for now. We also love,

love, love this product and we're disappointed that it was so difficult to

stabilize it. We are presently testing each form of calcium we buy to try

to figure out which may have been causing the problems. We are going to

work on making a calcium powder product within the month which you can use

as a replacement until we figure out how to make a really stable liquid

calcium again. Your distributor in the UK will have this product pretty

soon. We are not experiencing these problems with any other products.

In the meantime, I'm afraid you'll have to find other sources. My

suggestion is to buy the " good " brands, avoid carbonates and citrates as

much as you can. Also, ask for a certificate showing the lead content of

any calcium product you buy. I don't believe there's any such thing as

calcium that's completely free of lead, but you'd be surprised how high it

is in lots of products. Look for the lowest you can find. You want to

give just a little magnesium with your large dose of calcium, to help the

calcium absorb. Ascorbate and glycinate and aspartate are pretty good

forms, and I'm sure there are other good ones too.

I'll keep you posted when we have a calcium product ready to sell

again. Please accept our deepest apologies for any difficulty this causes

you and your child. We went through three very painful and expensive

reformulations of it before finally giving up on doing a liquid form for

the moment.

Terri

At 06:48 AM 10/20/2004, you wrote:

>Hello everyone

>

>I have just phoned my supplier (I'm a UK resident) for a re-order of

>nightcal, to be told that it has been discontinued due to a problem

>with stability of the product. I'm a big fan of this product. My 4 yr

>old boy has been taking it for a year now and I'd forggotten what

>teeth grinding was. It also seemed to help with his anxiety.

>There's a lot of us nightcal users out there and I wondered what

>people were using as a substitute until Lang is able to sort

>the problem out. Soon I hope

>

>Thanks

>

>Kay

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