Re: Devin - Enzymes + HCl?

[Guest guest]

I would be interested to hear what dosing you are using for the

Betiane HCL. I have read about it and think it might help my 2 1/2

year old, but I can't find any info that talks about safety and

dosing in children under age 12.

Thanks,

Miti

> Devin, our son's DAN doctor has recommended that we give our son

> betaine HCl along w/ith enzymes at each meal. We give enzymes at

> each meal, plus pep and no fenol between meals sometimes to battle

> yeast. The reason for adding the HCl is that despite supplements,

> enzymes and a very healthy diet he is still low in most nutrients

by

> testing, including aminos, etc. Would the addition of HCl help or

> hinder the effectiveness of the enzymes? Id love any feedback and

> appreciate all you do for our kids....Kim

[Guest guest]

The plant-based enzymes can work under a broad pH range, so the addition of

betaine won't hurt, but on the other hand the enzymes work faster at more

neutral

pH.

Stomach acid's main role is to activate the stomach and pancreatic enzymes.

Plant/

oral enzymes do not need activation. Nor does HCl directly " digest " foods, it

basically

denatures proteins so they are more accessible to enzyme actions.

> Devin, our son's DAN doctor has recommended that we give our son

> betaine HCl along w/ith enzymes at each meal. We give enzymes at

> each meal, plus pep and no fenol between meals sometimes to battle

> yeast. The reason for adding the HCl is that despite supplements,

> enzymes and a very healthy diet he is still low in most nutrients by

> testing, including aminos, etc. Would the addition of HCl help or

> hinder the effectiveness of the enzymes? Id love any feedback and

> appreciate all you do for our kids....Kim

[Guest guest]

Devin, I answered my question even before you did. I gave my son one

cap of HCl last night with his normally well tolerate enzymes, and

within minutes he was salivating horribly and complaining of mouth

pain (which I assume was reflux). This afternoon I tried once again

and the same thing happened, enough of a test for me. I am sticking

with enzymes and more supps...Thanks so much! Kim

> > Devin, our son's DAN doctor has recommended that we give our son

> > betaine HCl along w/ith enzymes at each meal. We give enzymes at

> > each meal, plus pep and no fenol between meals sometimes to

battle

> > yeast. The reason for adding the HCl is that despite

supplements,

> > enzymes and a very healthy diet he is still low in most nutrients

by

> > testing, including aminos, etc. Would the addition of HCl help

or

> > hinder the effectiveness of the enzymes? Id love any feedback

and

> > appreciate all you do for our kids....Kim

[Guest guest]

If you give someone HCL or Apple Cider Vinegar to increase stomach acidity

it may burn as they drink it, but if they need it within 20 minutes they

should feel better. In your case, sounds like he really doesn't need it.

The pain would have been because of too much stomach acid.

I don't know if the remedy I use on my son would help the person who wanted

to use HCL but said it didn't have dose info for young kids.

When my 6 year old has heartburn/reflux I give him some apple cider vinegar

(1/2 to 1 tsp) in warm water with a bit of honey. The reflux/heartburn is a

sign that he is not digesting something despite the enzymes (perhaps he

isn't taking enough enzymes yet). It works very well and has never caused a

negative reaction. It increases the acidity of the stomach but is well

tolerated - not as strong as the HCL. In fact with my son, when he has

reflux he often becomes very whiney and can't sleep. But if I gave him the

ACV, within 10-15 minutes he is happy again and if at night, goes to sleep.

However, someone (?) said something about not tolerating Apple Cider

Vinegar because it increased yeast. I can't remember for sure. My son

doesn't have really a yeast problem so that is not an issue for me.

Just a possiblity.

Abby