Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 I have, that's for sure. My son, who is not autistic but has some obvious delays, intolerances, etc. had the quick skin prick for 10 foods and didn't immediately react to any of them. Three weeks later, he had us come in for a " milk challenge " and proceeded to give him very small amounts of whole milk every 15 minutes. While I, sitting in the room the whole time, could see his skin start to react, his cheeks and ears start to get red, and start to heat up - the doctor on the other hand, would peek his head in and say " well, no welts or hives yet.... " . We went home and of course his skin continued to worsen. He had a seizure that night with 106 fever and was not sick or any symptoms before that....hmmmm....always wondered about that. Of course, they all just said " virus, virus, virus " . Lincoln, NE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 I might now be able to sleep, that's how mad I am!!!! **Apparently I'm so mad, I'm not able to type either, that last line is supposed to be: I might NOT be able to sleep, that how mad I am!!!! Thanks again for " listening. " _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Hi , I hear you!!!!!All day I have had to deal with a doctor who is killing my mother by the multiple layering of meds he has her on.I really want to sue the pants off of him but I have no legal recourse at this point in time. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 , I'm so sorry you had such a miserable visit. It really stinks when it happens -- and it's happened to me several times. I'm the type who goes back -- whether for another visit or through a letter -- to clarify my position and use the opportunity to educate the doctor. This has NEVER worked to my benefit or had any effect in satisfying me. The doc has NEVER " given in " or come to any understanding whatsoever of what I'm saying or trying to do. Now I just live through the insomnia and churning stomach acids, knowing it will eventually take a backseat to my more productive obsession of healing my son. Wish I could be more positive. > Hi All, > > We had our allergy testing done today, sort of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 The milk challenge story sounds familiar! I've learned, that as soon as I see red lips and ears, that respiratory problems will surface so I've taken to giving Benadryl at the first sign of allergic reaction. I had to do it so much at one point in our lives, that's how I found out that Benadryl dramatically changes how my son behaves...almost NT! It's funny and sad at the same time. I'm on my fourth allergist, BTW. Most of them know practically nothing about immunology, and I think that's the real issue here. My son showed a mild wheal for everything, including the control! Two of the allergists I saw told me that they thoroughly believed every word I said but that there was simply no test to confirm it, because it was a different type of allergy, or maybe some sort of intolerance. They told me to challenge with foods VERY CAUTIOUSLY, and that I would have to figure out what was a problem and what wasn't. Allergy testing, for us, has been a waste of time and money, but I may have to do it again soon because my son has allergic enteropathy. I might resort to the Great Plains test. Good luck...you have company in the sinking ship! Lori Getz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 ---The problem I have with allergy testing is that it only shows if they have a histamine reaction. Most of these kids lack enzymes (in ability to break down certain foods properly) and not a histamine reaction. We did the skin test and blood test...that came back contradictory to each other. But he had already done a GI scope that showed he lacked enzymes to digest diary. And I ignored doctors, who maybe took one course in college about nutrition and maybe read a chapter in some textbook about autism.....when I tell them that my son tested positive for mercury poisoning...they look at me dumb found and then ask how he got it. So know you are more of an expert when it comes to autism than them... In , " melmeighen " <melmeighen@y...> wrote: > , > > I'm so sorry you had such a miserable visit. It really stinks when > it happens -- and it's happened to me several times. I'm the type > who goes back -- whether for another visit or through a letter -- to > clarify my position and use the opportunity to educate the doctor. > > This has NEVER worked to my benefit or had any effect in satisfying > me. The doc has NEVER " given in " or come to any understanding > whatsoever of what I'm saying or trying to do. > > Now I just live through the insomnia and churning stomach acids, > knowing it will eventually take a backseat to my more productive > obsession of healing my son. > > Wish I could be more positive. > > > > Hi All, > > > > We had our allergy testing done today, sort of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 That's awful. The things that made the difference for us were the enzymes. Seeing was believing in our case. Finding the right product, knowing the possible situations that can arise, definitly not something to undertake blindly. But, you will find little support for enzymes in about 90% of the medical community when it comes to treating autistic kids. At least this has been our experience. allergy testing: worst appt. ever > Hi All, > > We had our allergy testing done today, sort of. I mean sort of, because > my > son was a basket case from the moment we stepped into the office, until > the > moment we walked out the door to leave, due to the fact that he's been off > his antihistimine for 3 days, per their instructions, and been completely > miserable, and today, you could tell he'd just had enough, the poor little > guy!! > Anyway, after a little discussion with the doctor, who told me he had 1 > niece and 2 nephews with autism, the doc decided we'd do the skin prick > test > for foods only today, then we could come back and do the rest of the > inhalants in a couple weeks. After that was all over, and my son, didn't > react to ANY of the 10 foods tested, the doc came back in and preceded to > tell me that I NEEDED to expand my son's diet, maybe stick some pureed > chicken in his milk, my son would NEVER notice...yeah right, he has no > idea > what the heck he is talking about. THEN he proceeded to tell me that > parents of autistic kids are looking for the " Holy Grail " of cures for > autism, and the key is " just to keep him in our world, instead of letting > him go back into his own world. " My husband and I were to dumbfounded to > speak, and finally, I came to, just enough to say, that we have seen > wonderful progressive results with the nutritional interventions that we > have taken thus far. That got an " Oh, is that right? " sarcastic look from > him. I am still so appalled at the way we were treated by this doc, I > could > scream, really. How dare he consider himself an " expert " on treating > autism, when he clearly does not have a f------ clue!!!! He has no idea > what > it's like being a parent of an autistic child, and for him to assume that > he > knows " the cure " RRRRRAAAAAHHHHH!! This was the doc that was supposed to > be " wonderful " according to my ped.'s office. I want to take some sort > of > action, like right him a letter telling him off, or better yet, make an > appt. with him for myself, and just use that appt. to ream him a new one, > it'd be worth the $15 co-pay, that's for sure!! In reality though, I > really > don't see what any of it will do as far as changing anything for the other > poor parents of autistic kids that have to deal with this jerk. Any > suggestions? Any suggestions on activities that I can do (either related > or > non-related to the jerk) to satisfy my vengenance craving? I know the > vengenance thing will subside in a couple of days, maybe even tomorrow, > but > until then, I might now be able to sleep, that's how mad I am!!!! > > Thank you all for listening me to vent, even just being able to email this > has helped a great deal!! To those of you who haven't experienced this > kind > of ignorance yet, I truly hope you never have to, especially from an > individual who thinks he's " educated. " > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 Hi , What a terrible time for you. I guess the best thing to do would be to tell the Ped that recommended him how lousy he was, and to not rec. him again to future families! My Ped. is an Allergy Specialist, and upon my initial concerns of my son and asd, I put him on GFCF at 17 mos. When I went back and told him of the wonderful gains we had seen, he basically blew it off, saying a diet couldn't do that and my son wasn't autistic! Needless to say, after my son was dx. at 20 mos., it is now my Ped. who has poor eye contact with me... Not my asd 25 mos old! - In , " amattson " <amattson@b...> wrote: > That's awful. The things that made the difference for us were the enzymes. > Seeing was believing in our case. Finding the right product, knowing the > possible situations that can arise, definitly not something to undertake > blindly. But, you will find little support for enzymes in about 90% of the > medical community when it comes to treating autistic kids. At least this has > been our experience. > allergy testing: worst appt. ever > > > > Hi All, > > > > We had our allergy testing done today, sort of. I mean sort of, because > > my > > son was a basket case from the moment we stepped into the office, until > > the > > moment we walked out the door to leave, due to the fact that he's been off > > his antihistimine for 3 days, per their instructions, and been completely > > miserable, and today, you could tell he'd just had enough, the poor little > > guy!! > > Anyway, after a little discussion with the doctor, who told me he had 1 > > niece and 2 nephews with autism, the doc decided we'd do the skin prick > > test > > for foods only today, then we could come back and do the rest of the > > inhalants in a couple weeks. After that was all over, and my son, didn't > > react to ANY of the 10 foods tested, the doc came back in and preceded to > > tell me that I NEEDED to expand my son's diet, maybe stick some pureed > > chicken in his milk, my son would NEVER notice...yeah right, he has no > > idea > > what the heck he is talking about. THEN he proceeded to tell me that > > parents of autistic kids are looking for the " Holy Grail " of cures for > > autism, and the key is " just to keep him in our world, instead of letting > > him go back into his own world. " My husband and I were to dumbfounded to > > speak, and finally, I came to, just enough to say, that we have seen > > wonderful progressive results with the nutritional interventions that we > > have taken thus far. That got an " Oh, is that right? " sarcastic look from > > him. I am still so appalled at the way we were treated by this doc, I > > could > > scream, really. How dare he consider himself an " expert " on treating > > autism, when he clearly does not have a f------ clue!!!! He has no idea > > what > > it's like being a parent of an autistic child, and for him to assume that > > he > > knows " the cure " RRRRRAAAAAHHHHH!! This was the doc that was supposed to > > be " wonderful " according to my ped.'s office. I want to take some sort > > of > > action, like right him a letter telling him off, or better yet, make an > > appt. with him for myself, and just use that appt. to ream him a new one, > > it'd be worth the $15 co-pay, that's for sure!! In reality though, I > > really > > don't see what any of it will do as far as changing anything for the other > > poor parents of autistic kids that have to deal with this jerk. Any > > suggestions? Any suggestions on activities that I can do (either related > > or > > non-related to the jerk) to satisfy my vengenance craving? I know the > > vengenance thing will subside in a couple of days, maybe even tomorrow, > > but > > until then, I might now be able to sleep, that's how mad I am!!!! > > > > Thank you all for listening me to vent, even just being able to email this > > has helped a great deal!! To those of you who haven't experienced this > > kind > > of ignorance yet, I truly hope you never have to, especially from an > > individual who thinks he's " educated. " > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 That got an " Oh, is that right? " sarcastic look from > him. So sorry, . I've gotten that same look many times now, and the allergy docs were the worst. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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