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Hi Jessie,

Last October, when I began my 3 months of improvement, I started

out with one good day out of maybe 7; then 2 good days out of 7;

then 3 good days out 7, etc. Just before my relapse, most days

were decent...not the whole day, but I was able to do things that

I hadn't been able to do for 6 years. I would hate to give

anyone false hope, but you may be on the road back to some kind

of a normal life.

But don't make the mistake I did - don't stop your antibiotics

until you've gone 2 to 3 months with NO symptoms. Of course, I

also had gallbladder surgery in November, which I'm sure

contributed to my relapse, but I don't think it would have been

as severe had I continued the abx pulsing that had almost given

me back some of my life.

Here's hoping it's a good sign for you!

Patty

> Message: 8

> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 19:17:58 -0000

> From: " Jessie A. " <jessie_alfieri@...>

> Subject: cycles

>

> 2-3 good days, followed by a bad day. repeat.

> Does anyone else have cycles like this?

> Is there a reason for it?

> ~ Jessie

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Hi Michele,

Based upon all that I've learned during the 7 years that I've had

Lyme, there is no cure for it and we will always have the Bb

bacteria in our bodies. The lucky ones will be able to put the Bb

bacteria into a type of " remission " and will show no symptoms, but

must always be aware that too much stress or physical " could "

trigger symptoms again.

Most doctors who are NOT lyme literate, do not believe that the

Lyme infection becomes chronic and they believe that after a

certain amount of time on abx it is cleared from our bodies.

They believe that any symptoms we have after that are post-lyme

symptoms caused by some kind of damage that the Lyme infection

caused.

However, it is my understanding that LLMD's believe that with, or

without symptoms, the infection remains in our bodies forever,

either active or dormant, because there is, at this time, no cure

for Lyme.

But even some LLMD's, knowing that we are still infected, will list

our Dx as Post-Lyme Syndrome - usually for insurance purposes since

LTD, SSDI & health insurance companies will recognize that Dx.

As for yeast, have you tried Nystatin and/or Diflucan?

Best wishes,

Patty

> Message: 13

> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:48:19 -0400

> From: " Michele Townsend " <mtownsend29@...>

> Subject: RE: letter to editor at immunesupport.com

>

> Dear ,

> I read this article as I had original dx's of CFS and FM and

> wondered what they meant by Post-Lyme? Do they mean that the

> spirochetes are all gone but you still have other problems.

> like some of our posters here or do they mean late stage lymies?

>

> I had 6 weeks of IV Rocephin last year and had no herxing or

> side effects and am now on 500mg Ceftin 2/day with no herxing

> (just yeast problems even though taking probiotics, caprylic

> acid and lots of yogurt, still had to get some otc preparations).

> Nothing in between. I am also working with borderline

> osteoporosis, borderline thyroid and possible MS so I don't know

> which end is up but my pcp will dx a yeast prep for me if I have

> to. Any suggestions?

> Hugs, Michele

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In a message dated 7/31/2003 1:42:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,

pattymcd@... writes:

> As for yeast, have you tried Nystatin and/or Diflucan?

>

>

BOTH are extremely damaging to the liver and cause herxheimer reactions,

rendering the body toxic.

You can do natural yeast killers including CANDEX by Pure Essence Labs, <A

HREF= " www.pureessencelabs.com " >

www.pureessencelabs.com</A> , or Standard Process has a protocol of Spanish

Black

radish, Cal-Amo, Zymex and Lact-Enz. <A

HREF= " www.standardprocess.com " >www.standardprocess.com</A>

Garden of Life has YEAST DEFENSE, <A

HREF= " www.gardenoflifeusa.com " >www.gardenoflifeusa.com</A>

Acidopholius will NOT kill yeast, it is just the good flora, it is what you

put back into the body after abx (antibiotics) kill off the good and bad

bacteria).

Other yeast killers include:

Kyolic garlic

grapefruit extract

capryllic acid

oil of oregano

Olive leaf extract (get 17-23% pure)

oil of lemon

If you would like more info or personal information for your individual self,

please contact me @ suemassie45@.... There is NO charge for this.

sue massie, CNHP

Nature's Garden of Health

732 933-4011

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In a message dated 6/25/2004 2:25:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

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As to dicipline--I get great help from tape cassettes by Becky Baily. She has

a great book called " Easy to love and hard to Discipline " . Her tape cassettes

are even more help especially if finding time to read is hard. Good luck.

Laurie

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Kristi --

I had to laugh out loud at your response to your husband. I know that

there are dads out there who can show compassion, patience and empathy when

their kids' behaviors reflect issues beyond their innate control. A neighbor of

mine has triplets, one with Down's Synd., and I have never known the father to

show impatience with her, even when all three of them were in diapers :-) But

on the whole, I think that it's a guy-response to want a quick fix for a

problem. Maybe moms tend to be more understanding because we spent most of 9

months registering every little " baby step " before birth? I can handle the more

mundane aspects of marriage, but lack of understanding from another adult --

especially my son's father/my husband -- really gets my adrenalin going! Jane

B.

Jane B.

In a message dated 9/24/2005 7:35:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

writes:

From: kristi watts <kristicw1@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Anyone suffer marital problems and/or divorce ovee the

stress of this?

My husband which is 's stepfather doesn't get it either. He knows now

just to keep his mouth shut or he will get the " wrath of the mom " . He thinks

if you spank her she'll stop washing her hands. His father has a heart

problem, so I told him to just go beat his dad and his heart would be better.

Luckily my family (mother and sister) understand and deal with it with no

problems.

I think men get so set on " being strong " they think OCD or any other mental

illness is a sign of weakness.

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Kristi --

I had to laugh out loud at your response to your husband. I know that

there are dads out there who can show compassion, patience and empathy when

their kids' behaviors reflect issues beyond their innate control. A neighbor of

mine has triplets, one with Down's Synd., and I have never known the father to

show impatience with her, even when all three of them were in diapers :-) But

on the whole, I think that it's a guy-response to want a quick fix for a

problem. Maybe moms tend to be more understanding because we spent most of 9

months registering every little " baby step " before birth? I can handle the more

mundane aspects of marriage, but lack of understanding from another adult --

especially my son's father/my husband -- really gets my adrenalin going! Jane

B.

Jane B.

In a message dated 9/24/2005 7:35:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

writes:

From: kristi watts <kristicw1@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Anyone suffer marital problems and/or divorce ovee the

stress of this?

My husband which is 's stepfather doesn't get it either. He knows now

just to keep his mouth shut or he will get the " wrath of the mom " . He thinks

if you spank her she'll stop washing her hands. His father has a heart

problem, so I told him to just go beat his dad and his heart would be better.

Luckily my family (mother and sister) understand and deal with it with no

problems.

I think men get so set on " being strong " they think OCD or any other mental

illness is a sign of weakness.

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Bill,

Summerfest is a mile from the hotel, but there is a shuttle from the hotel to

Summerfest.

Sincerely,

,

Is the festival within scooter distance of the hotel?

As a Pacific Northwesterner, it is almost a requirement to see Pearl Jam at

least once in your lifetime.

:-)

Bill

On 4/26/06, Karpfinger <tootall@...> wrote:

>

> Just to add a bit to 's post regarding Summerfest in Milwaukee. The

> fee on the registration packet for Summerfest includes various musicians,

> including the band that's playing at the banquet.

> The band's that listed, as you may have noticed by looking at the

> website, are an additional fee. Yet there are many great bands for the

> ticket price of the festival. If you buy a ticket for one of the headliner's

> (I.E. J. Blige, Kenny Chesney, Pearl Jam), if the rules haven't

> change, that ticket will get you into the festival.

> You can see several bands for the original ticket price, and there are

> various types of food from local restaurants to choose from at a reasonable

> price. Summerfest is located just minutes from the conference hotel. You can

> get a handstamp if you choose to go back to the conference for an event, and

> want to go back to the festival later that day.

> The festival is right on Lake Michigan, and it's beautiful. There is a lot

> of walking, and it can get very hot. Yet there are many places to sit, and

> there are " bubblers " (a term used for waterfountains in WI) all around.

>

> I hope this helps.

> Sincerely,

> Karpfinger-Helton

>

--

A tranquil spirit revives the body...

(Proverbs 14:30)

" Work out your own salvation. Do not depend on others. "

Buddha

" It is better to travel well than to arrive. "

Buddha

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Drink your fluids today. If you can do a handstand or get on an inversion table

that will help. And the teabag trick wikk reduce eye swelling: place warm used

black or green tea bags over eyes. Oh and a simple clay mask should help.

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