Re: SCD and Enzymes - Long

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it sounds like yeast. i don't thinks scd legal(mcc) will help.

if the stools are better thats a very positive sign.

candex and oeganol will help with yeast and proably no fenol as well

but you have to come at yeast form a number of different angles.

do you have a hair test?

longer term to get the gut inate immune system on deck requires

attention to minerals and the immune system. optizinc can be a good

place to start but has cofactor minerals that need looking at.

selenium as well.

'minerals i take' in the index of

http://mueller_ranges.tripod.com/links/compendium/compendium.html

also look at the skin vitmain d summer comes but once and idiot

public health advice is eternal.

bascially you are going to have to think a bit out of the box about

scd, things like nut flours are a problem and dairy is needed for its

growth facotrs, things like raw goats milk etc.

bone marrow is a great addition to cooking, really promotes

glutathione.

if he was better on just zyme then why not try that?

> Hi,

> Our 4-1/2 year-old son, dx PDDNOS, has been on the Specific

> Carbohydrate diet for 6 months. He has been doing fairly well with

> language and play gains, and we are pleased that he is getting such

> healthy foods.

>

> We began to look into enzymes and decided to give them a try (on

> them about 3 weeks now). We use HNZyme and Pep " original " formulas.

> Initially, they were considered illegal on the SCD, but then

someone

> indicated on pecanbread that the original formulas were now legal.

> There are also the " SCD legal " versions, but we have not tried them

> yet.

>

> Overall, we have had not had much success with enzymes. In fact, I

> feel as if Spencer has regressed. He is spacey, scripting a lot,

and

> throwing big tantrums. He has a VB program, and his fluency at the

> table has been off...

>

> So, I say, are we doing something wrong or is this an adjustment

> period? We began with HNZyme, sprinkling it on his food, and then

we

> added Pep a few days later, sprinkling both enzymes on his food,

and

> then working up to about a 1/2 capsule each at mealtimes.

>

> I wish I had kept notes, but for a few days when he was just on the

> HNZyme, he seemed happier, talkative, and more interactive. He also

> had a very nice looking stool, firmer than without enzymes.

>

> Right now we're close to taking him off the enzymes because the

> behaviors are so troublesome. Perhaps, though someone has some

> advice on how we can redo them. I question also whether we should

> try the " SCD legal " versions. At some point, we wanted to try No

> Fenol as well.

>

> We would greatly appreciate advice from those with experience.

>

> Louisa

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> We began to look into enzymes and decided to give them a try (on

> them about 3 weeks now). We use HNZyme and Pep " original " formulas.

> Overall, we have had not had much success with enzymes. In fact, I

> feel as if Spencer has regressed. He is spacey, scripting a lot, and

> throwing big tantrums. He has a VB program, and his fluency at the

> table has been off...

It can be an adjustment period, altho that usually lasts about 3 weeks

and you indicate you have been using enzymes for that long.

> I wish I had kept notes, but for a few days when he was just on the

> HNZyme, he seemed happier, talkative, and more interactive. He also

> had a very nice looking stool, firmer than without enzymes.

Drop the Peptizyde, keep just the Zyme Prime. He might not tolerate

the Peptizyde, based on this time line you indicate.

Dana

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In a message dated 6/9/2004 7:29:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,

alexviele@... writes:

> We began to look into enzymes and decided to give them a try (on

> them about 3 weeks now

I haven't read ahead -- but I would say if your son has improved on SCD it's

nearly impossible to imagine that enzymes wouldn't help too. The fact that

you've seen some positives is also a really good sign. It can take 3 weeks or

longer for the adjustments to be made, and that's my guess about what's

happening

-- a lot of kids regress before getting better. As far as which version, I'd

stick with the original for now, or you may in for another adjustment. You

might consider adding No-Fenol, which was the turning point for my son. Hang in

there!

Nell