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I have not changed his diet. He is getting 1/2 tablet each of afp

peptizyde and hn-zyme prime with each meal. And about 1/4 tablet of

no-fenol with each meal. He has been staying up ALL night, he cannot

sleep. With a 20 year old, it is better to let him stay up and watch

TV than try to get him to lay down.

Perhaps I am just too eager to make this work and upping the

supplements too fast?

All ideas welcomed.

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My son had difficulties sleeping when we first started the AFP Pep.

We had to increase the dose very slowly or he would have problems.

You don't say how long he's been taking the enzymes -- adjustment

time can be up to three weeks. Maybe you should drop two of the

enzymes and just start with one, like Pep or ZP. Then you'll know

which one is making him restless?

> I have not changed his diet. He is getting 1/2 tablet each of afp

> peptizyde and hn-zyme prime with each meal. And about 1/4 tablet

of

> no-fenol with each meal. He has been staying up ALL night, he

cannot

> sleep. With a 20 year old, it is better to let him stay up and

watch

> TV than try to get him to lay down.

>

> Perhaps I am just too eager to make this work and upping the

> supplements too fast?

>

> All ideas welcomed.

>

> VickiB

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> I have not changed his diet. He is getting 1/2 tablet each of afp

> peptizyde and hn-zyme prime with each meal. And about 1/4 tablet of

> no-fenol with each meal. He has been staying up ALL night, he cannot

> sleep.

Try reducing the No-Fenol to just a sprinkle. When I first started

it, it did cause my son to be slightly hyper in the evening.

Conversely, your son might be eating foods that the enzymes are not

addressing. For example, enzymes did not help my son with corn. That

might be causing the sleep issues.

Is the ZP the SCD variety? If not, he might not tolerate

papain/bromelain, which can cause sleep issues.

If you are giving high doses of vitamins, especially B vitamins, he

might be absorbing those better, causing hyper.

Dana

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> Try reducing the No-Fenol to just a sprinkle. When I first started

> it, it did cause my son to be slightly hyper in the evening.

>

> Conversely, your son might be eating foods that the enzymes are not

> addressing. For example, enzymes did not help my son with corn.

That

> might be causing the sleep issues.

>

> Is the ZP the SCD variety? If not, he might not tolerate

> papain/bromelain, which can cause sleep issues.

>

> If you are giving high doses of vitamins, especially B vitamins, he

> might be absorbing those better, causing hyper.

>

> Dana

Dana, my son follows the SCD so corn is not an issue. He also gets

NO vitamins because, like your children, he doesn't tolerate much.

So from the replies I got, I must be too aggressive. He did sleep

last night, just not the night before. Perhaps it is also the time

at which he gets his last meal. Lately he's been asking for more

dinner shortly after he eats. I am too eager, plus since he starts

summer school tomorrow, I wanted the enzymes in place before that

time.

I did try him on steamed brown rice last weekend (off SCD) but that

was a big mistake. I thought maybe since that was still in his

system, maybe that was why he didn't sleep? Friday night after

eating the rice he didn't sleep but the following night he did and

then the next night (Sunday night) he didn't sleep again. Last night

he slept all night.

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> Dana, my son follows the SCD so corn is not an issue.

That was just an example. SCD uses quite a lot of foods that my son

did not tolerate, even with enzymes. If you want, try removing

anything on this list that your son still eats, see if you notice

anything in 2-3 days

http://www.saras-autism-diet.freeservers.com/Diet/Saras_Diet_I.html

>>Lately he's been asking for more

> dinner shortly after he eats.

What does he eat for dinner?

> I did try him on steamed brown rice last weekend (off SCD) but that

> was a big mistake. I thought maybe since that was still in his

> system, maybe that was why he didn't sleep?

My son did not tolerate rice, especially brown rice, even with enzymes.

Dana

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