Re: New formula and metal tox questions; kinda long

June 5, 2004

My son is one of the munchkins that didn't do well on cellulose version of

enzymes. My son has a severe viral issue, as well as a bacteria and yeast

issue, plus his gut is by definition impaired as he is completely IgA

deficient. The problem for us was multi-fold, so I will share and perhaps

this may help. We discovered my son needed the papain and bromelain in the

Zyme Prime as that helped with the viral and bacterial issues. He was

basically getting a " natural " anti bacterial and anti viral treatment

several times a day, and it was gentle and consistent, via the Rice version

of Zyme Prime. Not so with the cellulose version. Also, cellulose can cause

bacteria issues to be amped up, if it is a certain type of bacteria, this

was the case for my son. Devin brilliantly added a small wee amount of MCT

oil to combat this possible issue, but low and behold my son was getting a

mega dose of this in the evening as part of another separate supplement. So,

this evening supplement, it is an evening supplement because it can cause

drowsiness for kids with this particular bacteria/viral issue. And wouldn't

you know it, my son was falling asleep at the dining room table before he

could finish his meals when taking the cellulose version of enzymes, he was

lethargic all day, his verbal ability went down the tube, he regressed and

his cheeks looked like they had been burned, they were so bumpy and red and

his ears would turn red no matter what we fed him after only a few bites of

food. Soooo, needless to say we were alarmed and I bought about a 1000 units

of the original rice version of Zyme Prime from Devin and was extremely

happy when a month or so later he decided to carry both versions. Now,

here's the thing. We've been rotating GSE, OoO and OLE for months, after

doing the cellulose version for a month, and then returning to the rice

version, we went a whole month without needing the GSE OoO, OLE rotation.

School is out, and I was going to reintroduce the cellulose versions at

bedtime when he gets his bedtime supplements, but we have this trip to

Virginia to see this Doctor and I'd like him to handle the airline trip

without discomfort, so I'm holding off till we get back.

New formula and metal tox questions; kinda long

> My son is 7 3/4 yrs old and has AS/HFA. Started GFCF and super

> nuthera at age 4. Lots of improvement with GFCF. Currently, he is

> off GFCF since starting with Peptizyde and Zyme Prime in Nov and all

> other foods were eaten with gusto. We use probiotic and Capryllic

> acid for yeast, Supernuthera, Zn and just finished a trial of B-12

> shots and folinic acid + TMG. (Did not see any positive results with

> this.) He has been on Paxil since Oct '03. My questions are:

> 1) He had a significant reaction to the change in fillers in the

> enzymes. I came back and read posts and was going to ask if there

> was a honeymoon period, when I discovered that the formula changed

> and some other kids were also having reactions. I switched quickly

> back and he went back to as before. Since then I have read of some

> kids doing better after a fairly brief period of behavioral

> deterioration. Esp. with auditory sensitivity issues. Also read

> some implication for possible viral load issues in kids who had a

> reaction? Could someone please clarify this for me? I'd like to

> know if I should switch back to the rice bran filler enzymes and/or

> if I should be pursuing treatment for virus.

> 2) We recently did a 3 day DMPS oral challenge and the results for

> his urine mercury came back normal. However, I have also read that

> some kids don't respond to DMSA and am wondering if we should pursue

> other means of testing mercury and other heavy metals.

>

June 5, 2004

paxil is a fluorinated med (contains a fluoride atom) and these meds

seem more destructive than most. also given the similarites between

gut and brain chemistry is will be interfering with digestion in some

way.

http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/parox.htm

you need a hair test

the challenge could have made things worse by mobilising mercury

which is the whole isue with chelation.

if he reacted badly to the cellulose fillers then you have

achronically bad fermenting type stomach/intestine flora and will

need to look at a modifyed scd

super nu thera will be causing issues

the body needs its copper metabolism working properly to kill

viruses, copper goes into enzymes that directly disrupt viral rna

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source naturals copper sebacate is good for this but you may need

zinc and molybdenum first.

written up in the 'minerals i take' page in the index of

http://mueller_ranges.tripod.com/links/compendium/compendium.html

capryllic acid being anti viral may promote yeast and bacteria issues

you should switch back to rice bran

attempting to improve antiviral function without understanding copper

is whistling in the dark which seems to be the case on the anti viral

stuff on this board.

> My son is 7 3/4 yrs old and has AS/HFA. Started GFCF and super

> nuthera at age 4. Lots of improvement with GFCF. Currently, he is

> off GFCF since starting with Peptizyde and Zyme Prime in Nov and

all

> other foods were eaten with gusto. We use probiotic and Capryllic

> acid for yeast, Supernuthera, Zn and just finished a trial of B-12

> shots and folinic acid + TMG. (Did not see any positive results

with