Re: /was:Virastop on an empty stomach

[Guest guest]

Yes, she did complain of a stomach ache early on with VS. This passed in a

couple of days, and we even give the VS with a little bit of yogurt.

I do know somebody else tried giving 3X the amount of enzymes she was giving as

she had to give with food. I don't know if this would work, or not, .

Sorry, not terribly helpful, maybe someone else will have a better idea.

Good luck,

[ ] Virastop on an empty stomach

I would like to try Virastop on my son, however, he has never been able to

tolerate supplements on an empty stomach.

I would give him his pills, send him to school, and they would call me an hour

later saying he had thrown up

Has anyone experienced this problem with Virastop?

[Guest guest]

,

Do you give the 12-20 capsules a day in addition to other supplements (i.e just

regular vitamins/minerals, zinc, probiotics, etc)?

If I did that my son would be taking 22-30 capsules a day! Is that even

possible?

I would really like to give this a try, but that # is so daunting. Do you

really have to give 12-20 per day or could 4-5 per day work. Do you drop all

the other supplements while you are doing this? For how long?

Sorry for all the questions.

[ ] Virastop on an empty stomach

I would like to try Virastop on my son, however, he has never been able to

tolerate supplements on an empty stomach.

I would give him his pills, send him to school, and they would call me an

hour later saying he had thrown up

Has anyone experienced this problem with Virastop?

[Guest guest]

Not , but you are right, it is daunting. 3 times/day I empty

the VS capsules into a small container with Colostrum, Candex, GSE

and some amino acids, add some elderberry extract and pear juice,

shake it like crazy, and put it in one of those medicine things (not

a syringe) and make him drink it about an hour before he eats. I

usually have to fill it up twice per dose. It is, actually, the

least offensive, part of his regimen (I think the elderberry extract

makes it a lot more palatable. If only the rest of his disgusting

stuff went down as well as this!

Anne

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> ,

>

> Do you give the 12-20 capsules a day in addition to other

supplements (i.e just regular vitamins/minerals, zinc, probiotics,

etc)?

>

> If I did that my son would be taking 22-30 capsules a day! Is

that even possible?

>

> I would really like to give this a try, but that # is so

daunting. Do you really have to give 12-20 per day or could 4-5 per

day work. Do you drop all the other supplements while you are doing

this? For how long?

>

> Sorry for all the questions.

>

>

> [ ] Virastop on an empty stomach

>

>

> I would like to try Virastop on my son, however, he has never

been able to tolerate supplements on an empty stomach.

>

> I would give him his pills, send him to school, and they would

call me an hour later saying he had thrown up

>

> Has anyone experienced this problem with Virastop?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The only way to find out is to ask. I have certainly done plenty of that.

We are only up to 6 Vs a day. We plan to go to 12 and hold for a month, if we

can make it.

No, can't drop the other supplements as there is the chelation to worry about.

We are only on a multivitamin powder, probiotics and CLO, and, yes, Armour,

which also has to be given on an empty stomach.

You really do feel like you are shoving something in their mouth about every 10

minutes, especially when chelating, and you are. No easy way to do it. But it is

easier if you get improvements.

Good luck,

[ ] Virastop on an empty stomach

I would like to try Virastop on my son, however, he has never been able to

tolerate supplements on an empty stomach.

I would give him his pills, send him to school, and they would call me an

hour later saying he had thrown up

Has anyone experienced this problem with Virastop?

[Guest guest]

,

That number of 12-20 a day would be very high for a small child.

I'm a grown woman, and at 9 a day I was having a response

uncomfortable enough to make me regret my little experiment since it

was at the same time as my son was falling apart.

I sound like a broken record here, but I really think that the VS is

something you need to go slowly with, and I also think that it will

work best if you use another antiviral or two with it. Choose

something that is easy to dose.

Anita

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> ,

>

> Do you give the 12-20 capsules a day in addition to other

supplements (i.e just regular vitamins/minerals, zinc, probiotics,

etc)?

>

> If I did that my son would be taking 22-30 capsules a day! Is

that even possible?

>

> I would really like to give this a try, but that # is so

daunting. Do you really have to give 12-20 per day or could 4-5 per

day work. Do you drop all the other supplements while you are doing

this? For how long?

>

> Sorry for all the questions.

>

>

> [ ] Virastop on an empty stomach

>

>

> I would like to try Virastop on my son, however, he has never

been able to tolerate supplements on an empty stomach.

>

> I would give him his pills, send him to school, and they would

call me an hour later saying he had thrown up

>

> Has anyone experienced this problem with Virastop?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I don't disagree with Anita, but want to add that it really seems to

depend on the child. My son is only 36 lbs and we had him up at

18VS/day +1000 mgs OLE with really nice progress and none of these

horrible viral side effects people are talking about, until

recently. Now we have a cold and mouth sores (it appears they are

inside and out) some spaciness, slurred articulation (not that it

was perfect to begin with!). We are also seeing some nice things -

better concentration when not spacey, better vocabulary, etc. I am

actually thinking we may need to take it higher to start moving the

viruses along. Seems like this one (probably the first of many) has

just been lingering for the last 4 days. FWIW, I think my son is

very heavily viral, but that maybe having him on LDN helped stave

off some of the negatives we might have seen early on in the

antiviral process. We have been on the VS for about 4 weeks and I

don't see it getting tossed out of the rotation for a while

(unfortunately for my pocketbook!). I have dropped the OLE for the

moment because of the mouth sores (anyone have an easy OLE to

give?), though that is probably the exact opposite of what I should

be doing. So, I think it really depends on the child. But Anita is

right - take it slow and see how your child responds. Too much too

fast of this stuff is not fun.

Anne

> >

> > ,

> >

> > Do you give the 12-20 capsules a day in addition to other

> supplements (i.e just regular vitamins/minerals, zinc, probiotics,

> etc)?

> >

> > If I did that my son would be taking 22-30 capsules a day! Is

> that even possible?

> >

> > I would really like to give this a try, but that # is so

> daunting. Do you really have to give 12-20 per day or could 4-5

per

> day work. Do you drop all the other supplements while you are

doing

> this? For how long?

> >

> > Sorry for all the questions.

> >

> >

> > [ ] Virastop on an empty stomach

> >

> >

> > I would like to try Virastop on my son, however, he has

never

> been able to tolerate supplements on an empty stomach.

> >

> > I would give him his pills, send him to school, and they

would

> call me an hour later saying he had thrown up

> >

> > Has anyone experienced this problem with Virastop?

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Maybe depends on the child and when you get the reaction, but the dosing says to

take that into account, staying steady if you get any negatives. And this was

different for Anita, myself and Anne, different #, that is.

[ ] Virastop on an empty stomach

> >

> >

> > I would like to try Virastop on my son, however, he has

never

> been able to tolerate supplements on an empty stomach.

> >

> > I would give him his pills, send him to school, and they

would

> call me an hour later saying he had thrown up

> >

> > Has anyone experienced this problem with Virastop?

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

,

We dose it three times/day (not optimal, I guess, but what we can

manage). We mix 6 VS, 2 Candex (or Candidase, which worked better

for us), 1 Colostrum IgG, and some amino acids in a little cup with

a top, add some Sambucol and pear juice, shake it well, and pour

into one of those medicine things (not syringes) and have him drink

it. It usually works out to 2 of those. Our dosing schedule is one

hour before each meal.

Anne

> > >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > Do you give the 12-20 capsules a day in addition to other

> > supplements (i.e just regular vitamins/minerals, zinc,

probiotics,

> > etc)?

> > >

> > > If I did that my son would be taking 22-30 capsules a day!

Is

> > that even possible?

> > >

> > > I would really like to give this a try, but that # is so

> > daunting. Do you really have to give 12-20 per day or could 4-

5

> per

> > day work. Do you drop all the other supplements while you are

> doing

> > this? For how long?

> > >

> > > Sorry for all the questions.

> > >

> > >

> > > [ ] Virastop on an empty stomach

> > >

> > >

> > > I would like to try Virastop on my son, however, he has

> never

> > been able to tolerate supplements on an empty stomach.

> > >

> > > I would give him his pills, send him to school, and they

> would

> > call me an hour later saying he had thrown up

> > >

> > > Has anyone experienced this problem with Virastop?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I agree completely with Anne. It will be different for each kid. I

should have explained more carefully. My experience was that the

antivirals seemed to work a bit exponentially. That is, we were

chugging along nicely with a cute little rash and some better focus,

a tiny fever and then BOOM. Huge fever, vomiting, etc. I also know

that for myself, my discomfort was pretty much invisible. My son

is nonverbal, and that's something that gives me pause.

I don't want to scare anyone off the antivirals. In fact, my son

showed virtually no signs of needing them yet he seems to be a big

responder--so my view is that most people should consider trying

them. But, with the low and slow in mind.

Anne, your son is a real trouper. And you too. I hope you're both

through this very soon.

Anita

> > >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > Do you give the 12-20 capsules a day in addition to other

> > supplements (i.e just regular vitamins/minerals, zinc,

probiotics,

> > etc)?

> > >

> > > If I did that my son would be taking 22-30 capsules a day! Is

> > that even possible?

> > >

> > > I would really like to give this a try, but that # is so

> > daunting. Do you really have to give 12-20 per day or could 4-5

> per

> > day work. Do you drop all the other supplements while you are

> doing

> > this? For how long?

> > >

> > > Sorry for all the questions.

> > >

> > >

> > > [ ] Virastop on an empty stomach

> > >

> > >

> > > I would like to try Virastop on my son, however, he has

> never

> > been able to tolerate supplements on an empty stomach.

> > >

> > > I would give him his pills, send him to school, and they

> would

> > call me an hour later saying he had thrown up

> > >

> > > Has anyone experienced this problem with Virastop?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I also know

> that for myself, my discomfort was pretty much invisible.

What was your discomfort like? I keep starting VS and then bailing.

I'm kind of telling myself it's too much to keep track of, but I think

also I wasn't feeling so hot. Did you get lethargic and cross?

Nell

[Guest guest]

Except that says that the VS is something to do for 1-3 months, and I

wonder why. Is it because giving the VS enzymes on an empty stomach depletes

something? Would doing the VS longer be harmful?

[ ] Re: /was:Virastop on an empty stomach

Nell,

By all accounts it sounds like I have been pretty aggressive on this

one. I find it hard to stay where I am and not go up or down, but I

think that is what I should do and get on with chelating.

I don't know exactly what " getting wiggy " means. Could you give me a

hint? I remember you wrote that you stopped when you realized that

your son started get upset about 15 minutes after each dose. I assume

that is different from " getting wiggy " ?

The more I think about it, the more I think that the way to conquer

these viruses is to stay on Virastop for, say, 5 or 10 years! That

would give the virus a chance to come out from everywhere and get

gobbled up by the Virastop. How is that for a working theory! :-)

Anne

> We have been on the VS for about 4 weeks and I

> > don't see it getting tossed out of the rotation for a while

>

> I did it for at least 3 months the first time. The highest dose I got

> to was 24 caps/day, at which point he started getting wiggy, so I

went

> back down to 20 and stayed there.

>

> Nell

>

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[Guest guest]

> > We have been on the VS for about 4 weeks and I

> > > don't see it getting tossed out of the rotation for a while

> >

> > I did it for at least 3 months the first time. The highest

dose I got

> > to was 24 caps/day, at which point he started getting wiggy,

so I

> went

> > back down to 20 and stayed there.

> >

> > Nell

> >

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[Guest guest]

Wouldn't you think that the amino acids would interfere with the VS action?

Obviously they don't, but I wonder why, also the Colostrum.

We give a Super Immune Booster with Colostrum, but away from the Vs, which we

give with small amounts of yogurt. On the positive side, she doesn't seem to

mind the taste of the VS, at all. Thank goodness for small favors.

[ ] Virastop on an empty stomach

> > >

> > >

> > > I would like to try Virastop on my son, however, he has

> never

> > been able to tolerate supplements on an empty stomach.

> > >

> > > I would give him his pills, send him to school, and they

> would

> > call me an hour later saying he had thrown up

> > >

> > > Has anyone experienced this problem with Virastop?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

> Do you give the 12-20 capsules a day in addition to other

supplements (i.e just regular vitamins/minerals, zinc, probiotics, etc)?

I am giving 12 capsules per day [4 capsules 3x per day] for my #2.

> I would really like to give this a try, but that # is so daunting.

Do you really have to give 12-20 per day or could 4-5 per day work.

Giving a lower number is good, especially in the beginning. I started

with 2 capsules per day.

>>Do you drop all the other supplements while you are doing this? For

how long?

Depends on if he still needs the other supplements.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Why should the amino acids interfere? I don't think amino acids are

broken down by enzymes. It is the protein that is broken down into

amino acids by enzymes, allowing the amino acids to be used to make

enzymes and other stuff. Am I wrong?

I hadn't thought about the colostrum. That makes sense.

Anne

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > >

> > > > Do you give the 12-20 capsules a day in addition to other

> > > supplements (i.e just regular vitamins/minerals, zinc,

> probiotics,

> > > etc)?

> > > >

> > > > If I did that my son would be taking 22-30 capsules a

day!

> Is

> > > that even possible?

> > > >

> > > > I would really like to give this a try, but that # is so

> > > daunting. Do you really have to give 12-20 per day or

could 4-

> 5

> > per

> > > day work. Do you drop all the other supplements while you

are

> > doing

> > > this? For how long?

> > > >

> > > > Sorry for all the questions.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [ ] Virastop on an empty stomach

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I would like to try Virastop on my son, however, he

has

> > never

> > > been able to tolerate supplements on an empty stomach.

> > > >

> > > > I would give him his pills, send him to school, and

they

> > would

> > > call me an hour later saying he had thrown up

> > > >

> > > > Has anyone experienced this problem with Virastop?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >