Re: Andy what are your thoughts on testosterone and mercury

[Guest guest]

>

> Andy what are your thoughts that testosterone makes mercury

poisoning

> worse and that it inhibits chelation?

>

Not Andy here but I have read quite a bit of information and some

studies that testosterone does indeed cause more problems with

mercury. Estrogen has a protective cell effect and females are faster

excretors of mercury. There was a lab study done on cells in the

presence of testosterone and mercury. I think I read about it in

Evidence of Harm. But there did show a clear increase in cellular

damage in the presence of testosterone.

[Guest guest]

Does mercury have an effect on how much testosterone a person make. Is

there any thought that mercury makes a person make more testosterone or

less.

> >

> > Andy what are your thoughts that testosterone makes mercury

> poisoning

> > worse and that it inhibits chelation?

> >

> Not Andy here but I have read quite a bit of information and some

> studies that testosterone does indeed cause more problems with

> mercury. Estrogen has a protective cell effect and females are faster

> excretors of mercury. There was a lab study done on cells in the

> presence of testosterone and mercury. I think I read about it in

> Evidence of Harm. But there did show a clear increase in cellular

> damage in the presence of testosterone.

>

[Guest guest]

I read this and wondered if yeast could raise testosterone. If

mercury causes yeast then it would raise testosterone.

The following article said about yeast:

" It can produce a false estrogen and make the body think it has

enough, which signals the body to cease production. "

http://healing.about.com/od/candida/a/candida_muran.htm

So, if yeast (which is probably caused by mercury) is causing the body

to cease production of estrogen, would the person not have higher

testosterone? Just a thought from someone who knows absolutely

nothing about hormones. Is there any validity to this? If so, can we

lower testosterone by healing the gut and getting rid of yeast?

Any opinions? ideas?

Hope

> > >

> > > Andy what are your thoughts that testosterone makes mercury

> > poisoning

> > > worse and that it inhibits chelation?

> > >

> > Not Andy here but I have read quite a bit of information and some

> > studies that testosterone does indeed cause more problems with

> > mercury. Estrogen has a protective cell effect and females are faster

> > excretors of mercury. There was a lab study done on cells in the

> > presence of testosterone and mercury. I think I read about it in

> > Evidence of Harm. But there did show a clear increase in cellular

> > damage in the presence of testosterone.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You may want to read " The Yeast Connection " , it explains how all

this works and what it does to the body. I am assuming you are

referring to testosterone in women? As men do not have estrogen, at

least not enought to mention. It explains that yeast mimicks

estrogen and you make less, but this would leave your body with more

progesterone, the other dominant female hormone. I have not read

about interference of testosterone being a factor. One of the

reasons men do not have as many problems with candida overgrow or

when they do the symptoms are less is that they do not have enough

estrogen to be interferred with. As a result men are less prone to

yeast issues unless there is immune suppression. IN any case, you

get rid of the metal, and the yeast problem, the hormones should

regulate.

Women with high progesterone from whatever cause usually have side

effects such as PMS, moodswing, sore breast, etc.

I don't know if this helps any. I do not think yeast can " raise "

testosterone in that way as yeast makes its own estrogen. But

anything that should not be in our bodies can do many things. And I

would think estrogens it produces are not good for men or women.

> > > >

> > > > Andy what are your thoughts that testosterone makes mercury

> > > poisoning

> > > > worse and that it inhibits chelation?

> > > >

> > > Not Andy here but I have read quite a bit of information and

some

> > > studies that testosterone does indeed cause more problems with

> > > mercury. Estrogen has a protective cell effect and females are

faster

> > > excretors of mercury. There was a lab study done on cells in

the

> > > presence of testosterone and mercury. I think I read about it

in

> > > Evidence of Harm. But there did show a clear increase in

cellular

> > > damage in the presence of testosterone.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

No, I was referring to testosterone in males (the Geiers' theory about

our kids) I did not know that males don't have estrogen. So my

theory is unfounded and I was wise to have not become a scientist. I

was just wondering if there was another way to excrete mercury better

during chelation without resorting to Lupron and why these kids have

high testosterone to begin with.

Hope

> > > > >

> > > > > Andy what are your thoughts that testosterone makes mercury

> > > > poisoning

> > > > > worse and that it inhibits chelation?

> > > > >

> > > > Not Andy here but I have read quite a bit of information and

> some

> > > > studies that testosterone does indeed cause more problems with

> > > > mercury. Estrogen has a protective cell effect and females are

> faster

> > > > excretors of mercury. There was a lab study done on cells in

> the

> > > > presence of testosterone and mercury. I think I read about it

> in

> > > > Evidence of Harm. But there did show a clear increase in

> cellular

> > > > damage in the presence of testosterone.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

For the person " youngjeam " :

The answer to your questions on the theory behind testosterone & mercury is

best answered by Dr. Geier. Here is a link to hear him:

http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

To answer your questions:

" Does mercury have an effect on how much testosterone a person make. " --

According to Dr. Geier, NO

" Is there any thought that mercury makes a person make more testosterone or

less. " -- According to Dr. Geier, mercury forms a bond with testosterone and

traps testosterone in a body. This makes chelation of mercury very difficult.

youngjaem <xxyoungonexx@...> wrote:

Does mercury have an effect on how much testosterone a person make. Is

there any thought that mercury makes a person make more testosterone or

less.

> >

> > Andy what are your thoughts that testosterone makes mercury

> poisoning

> > worse and that it inhibits chelation?

> >

> Not Andy here but I have read quite a bit of information and some

> studies that testosterone does indeed cause more problems with

> mercury. Estrogen has a protective cell effect and females are faster

> excretors of mercury. There was a lab study done on cells in the

> presence of testosterone and mercury. I think I read about it in

> Evidence of Harm. But there did show a clear increase in cellular

> damage in the presence of testosterone.

>

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[Guest guest]

I am going to jump in here with a likely very stupid and naieve question...

I have often wondered about biological causes for someone being gay...could

there be a relationship between mercury messing things up and causing high/low

testosterone that could bring this on? I am sorry if this isn't appropriate,

truly. I have met only a few people who are gay and it seems they feel it was

something they were born with. I can understand that and am not judgemental. I

just feel there has to be an biological reason. It seems more and more people

are gay (could also just because it is more accepted??) and I wonder if this

could because there is much more exposure to mercury if this is even a

possibility.

Again, so sorry if this is not an okay thing to ask. It has just been on my

mind. Thanks,

Abid Khan <a_bit_solutions@...> wrote:

For the person " youngjeam " :

The answer to your questions on the theory behind testosterone & mercury is

best answered by Dr. Geier. Here is a link to hear him:

http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

To answer your questions:

" Does mercury have an effect on how much testosterone a person make. " --

According to Dr. Geier, NO

" Is there any thought that mercury makes a person make more testosterone or

less. " -- According to Dr. Geier, mercury forms a bond with testosterone and

traps testosterone in a body. This makes chelation of mercury very difficult.

youngjaem <xxyoungonexx@...> wrote:

Does mercury have an effect on how much testosterone a person make. Is

there any thought that mercury makes a person make more testosterone or

less.

> >

> > Andy what are your thoughts that testosterone makes mercury

> poisoning

> > worse and that it inhibits chelation?

> >

> Not Andy here but I have read quite a bit of information and some

> studies that testosterone does indeed cause more problems with

> mercury. Estrogen has a protective cell effect and females are faster

> excretors of mercury. There was a lab study done on cells in the

> presence of testosterone and mercury. I think I read about it in

> Evidence of Harm. But there did show a clear increase in cellular

> damage in the presence of testosterone.

>

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[Guest guest]

I am glad you have brought this up as I have been wondering the same thing

myself. There has been a lot in media concerning reports about gender-bending

chemicals!! Last month a report came out about fish on the Californian coast

which were hermaphrodite in nature and the researchers narrowed in on a sewage

pipe which was pumping out chemicals contained in sunscreen products. I think I

saved the article. I'll see if I can locate it.

I'd like to see a sensible discussion about this.......

Re: [ ] Re: Andy what are your thoughts on testosterone

and mercury

I am going to jump in here with a likely very stupid and naieve question...

I have often wondered about biological causes for someone being gay...could

there be a relationship between mercury messing things up and causing high/low

testosterone that could bring this on? I am sorry if this isn't appropriate,

truly. I have met only a few people who are gay and it seems they feel it was

something they were born with. I can understand that and am not judgemental. I

just feel there has to be an biological reason. It seems more and more people

are gay (could also just because it is more accepted??) and I wonder if this

could because there is much more exposure to mercury if this is even a

possibility.

Again, so sorry if this is not an okay thing to ask. It has just been on my

mind. Thanks,

Abid Khan <a_bit_solutions@...> wrote:

For the person " youngjeam " :

The answer to your questions on the theory behind testosterone & mercury is

best answered by Dr. Geier. Here is a link to hear him:

http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

To answer your questions:

" Does mercury have an effect on how much testosterone a person make. " --

According to Dr. Geier, NO

" Is there any thought that mercury makes a person make more testosterone or

less. " -- According to Dr. Geier, mercury forms a bond with testosterone and

traps testosterone in a body. This makes chelation of mercury very difficult.

youngjaem <xxyoungonexx@...> wrote:

Does mercury have an effect on how much testosterone a person make. Is

there any thought that mercury makes a person make more testosterone or

less.

> >

> > Andy what are your thoughts that testosterone makes mercury

> poisoning

> > worse and that it inhibits chelation?

> >

> Not Andy here but I have read quite a bit of information and some

> studies that testosterone does indeed cause more problems with

> mercury. Estrogen has a protective cell effect and females are faster

> excretors of mercury. There was a lab study done on cells in the

> presence of testosterone and mercury. I think I read about it in

> Evidence of Harm. But there did show a clear increase in cellular

> damage in the presence of testosterone.

>

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[Guest guest]

Do More Boys Than Girls Have Autism?

For reasons we do not yet understand, autism occurs about four times

more frequently in boys than in girls. There is some indication that

autism is more common in first-born males, but there have been no

conclusive studies to date and there is just not enough research

available to know for sure. Girls, when affected, are more likely to

be more seriously disabled and to have lower IQs.

http://207.21.243.44/feat/autism1.html

Why are girls more likely to get retts? Very few boys have retts.

Donna

> > >

> > > Andy what are your thoughts that testosterone makes mercury

> > poisoning

> > > worse and that it inhibits chelation?

> > >

> > Not Andy here but I have read quite a bit of information and

some

> > studies that testosterone does indeed cause more problems with

> > mercury. Estrogen has a protective cell effect and females are

faster

> > excretors of mercury. There was a lab study done on cells in the

> > presence of testosterone and mercury. I think I read about it in

> > Evidence of Harm. But there did show a clear increase in

cellular

> > damage in the presence of testosterone.

> >

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

The scientists were saying that estrogen plays a role in protecting

cells from as severe of damage and that females are better excreters

of metal. However, mercury still damages the cells with or without

estrogen. They basically prooved that male and female handle metal

differently. And that in the presence of testosterone more damage

could occur on exposure. My blood tests did not show high estrogen

levels. Nor do my symtpoms. But what's to say it couldn't?

The thing is it can only protect it so much, say like the first

exposure. But after too many exposures...nothing will protect the

cells from damage. Mind you this study was in a lab using cells and

thimerosal. Our bodies are variable.

As to why some kids have high testosterone, that could be many

things I am sure. And possibly mercury could be one of them.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Andy what are your thoughts that testosterone makes

> mercury

> > > > > > poisoning

> > > > > > > worse and that it inhibits chelation?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > Not Andy here but I have read quite a bit of information

> and

> > > some

> > > > > > studies that testosterone does indeed cause more

problems

> with

> > > > > > mercury. Estrogen has a protective cell effect and

females

> are

> > > faster

> > > > > > excretors of mercury. There was a lab study done on

cells

> in

> > > the

> > > > > > presence of testosterone and mercury. I think I read

about

> it

> > > in

> > > > > > Evidence of Harm. But there did show a clear increase in

> > > cellular

> > > > > > damage in the presence of testosterone.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you..that is what I was trying to say.

That it affects excretion.

> > >

> > > Andy what are your thoughts that testosterone makes mercury

> > poisoning

> > > worse and that it inhibits chelation?

> > >

> > Not Andy here but I have read quite a bit of information and

some

> > studies that testosterone does indeed cause more problems with

> > mercury. Estrogen has a protective cell effect and females are

faster

> > excretors of mercury. There was a lab study done on cells in the

> > presence of testosterone and mercury. I think I read about it in

> > Evidence of Harm. But there did show a clear increase in

cellular

> > damage in the presence of testosterone.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

,

That is an honest question. I know a lot of people whom are gay. I

do not think mercury caused that. Ask anyone who is gay, and they

will tell you that they have always been that way. If mercury

messing with hormones were a cause, then some of us would be

reconsidering our lifestyles right now. I have met gay men who were

every bit as manly as any heterosexual man. They did not appear to

have any " hormone " imbalance. Any studies done on this have found it

be difference in the brain from birth. I have personally met and

know some gay individuals that do not have mercury fillings and are

too old to be victims of vaccine. There have always been gay people,

it is referred to in ancient Egyptian culture and probably others

cultures as well. Just that only until recently is it ok to live

openly that way. The biological reason is that their brain for some

reason is that way. It seems to be routed in fetal development early

on in the game. Anyway please add on any information that might

explain this better. I just know that the poeple I know will tell

you flat out that nothing eviornmental caused them to be the way

they are.

Jan

> > >

> > > Andy what are your thoughts that testosterone makes mercury

> > poisoning

> > > worse and that it inhibits chelation?

> > >

> > Not Andy here but I have read quite a bit of information and

some

> > studies that testosterone does indeed cause more problems with

> > mercury. Estrogen has a protective cell effect and females are

faster

> > excretors of mercury. There was a lab study done on cells in the

> > presence of testosterone and mercury. I think I read about it in

> > Evidence of Harm. But there did show a clear increase in

cellular

> > damage in the presence of testosterone.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

retts' maybe differences in brains. We all know that men and women

s brains are different. The information I have come across on why

more boys than girls is that females are better excretors of toxins

due to a different hormone (estrogen) that males. My daughter should

have autism with as much mercury as she received in her vaccines but

for some reason my son got it instead and he got very little mercury

from me in comparision. By the way he is not a first born. But hey,

there are always exceptions. But, yes, they did show a link to

testosterone interferring or slowing down natural detoxifaction.

I guess, since females have the babies, our systems have a few extra

safety features. Not that it makes me feel any better!

- In , " Donna " <donna.arnold@...>

wrote:

>

>

> Do More Boys Than Girls Have Autism?

>

> For reasons we do not yet understand, autism occurs about four

times

> more frequently in boys than in girls. There is some indication

that

> autism is more common in first-born males, but there have been no

> conclusive studies to date and there is just not enough research

> available to know for sure. Girls, when affected, are more likely

to

> be more seriously disabled and to have lower IQs.

>

> http://207.21.243.44/feat/autism1.html

>

>

> Why are girls more likely to get retts? Very few boys have retts.

>

> Donna

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Andy what are your thoughts that testosterone makes mercury

> > > poisoning

> > > > worse and that it inhibits chelation?

> > > >

> > > Not Andy here but I have read quite a bit of information and

> some

> > > studies that testosterone does indeed cause more problems with

> > > mercury. Estrogen has a protective cell effect and females are

> faster

> > > excretors of mercury. There was a lab study done on cells in

the

> > > presence of testosterone and mercury. I think I read about it

in

> > > Evidence of Harm. But there did show a clear increase in

> cellular

> > > damage in the presence of testosterone.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > =======================================================

> >

[Guest guest]

I have never heard of any doctor or anyone else link mercury or testosterone or

autism with homosexuality.

lvchefmel <lvchefmel@...> wrote: I am going to jump in here with a likely

very stupid and naieve question...

I have often wondered about biological causes for someone being gay...could

there be a relationship between mercury messing things up and causing high/low

testosterone that could bring this on? I am sorry if this isn't appropriate,

truly. I have met only a few people who are gay and it seems they feel it was

something they were born with. I can understand that and am not judgemental. I

just feel there has to be an biological reason. It seems more and more people

are gay (could also just because it is more accepted??) and I wonder if this

could because there is much more exposure to mercury if this is even a

possibility.

Again, so sorry if this is not an okay thing to ask. It has just been on my

mind. Thanks,

Abid Khan <a_bit_solutions@...> wrote:

For the person " youngjeam " :

The answer to your questions on the theory behind testosterone & mercury is

best answered by Dr. Geier. Here is a link to hear him:

http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

To answer your questions:

" Does mercury have an effect on how much testosterone a person make. " --

According to Dr. Geier, NO

" Is there any thought that mercury makes a person make more testosterone or

less. " -- According to Dr. Geier, mercury forms a bond with testosterone and

traps testosterone in a body. This makes chelation of mercury very difficult.

youngjaem <xxyoungonexx@...> wrote:

Does mercury have an effect on how much testosterone a person make. Is

there any thought that mercury makes a person make more testosterone or

less.

> >

> > Andy what are your thoughts that testosterone makes mercury

> poisoning

> > worse and that it inhibits chelation?

> >

> Not Andy here but I have read quite a bit of information and some

> studies that testosterone does indeed cause more problems with

> mercury. Estrogen has a protective cell effect and females are faster

> excretors of mercury. There was a lab study done on cells in the

> presence of testosterone and mercury. I think I read about it in

> Evidence of Harm. But there did show a clear increase in cellular

> damage in the presence of testosterone.

>

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

The study that I saw was done by Boyd Hailey PhD. testosterone &

mercury have a synergestic effect, brain neurons die faster when

both are present, as opposed to exposure to mercury alone. Here's

the link:

http://www.nomercury.org/media/haley/haley_files/default.htm

> > >

> > > Andy what are your thoughts that testosterone makes mercury

> > poisoning

> > > worse and that it inhibits chelation?

> > >

> > Not Andy here but I have read quite a bit of information and

some

> > studies that testosterone does indeed cause more problems with

> > mercury. Estrogen has a protective cell effect and females are

faster

> > excretors of mercury. There was a lab study done on cells in the

> > presence of testosterone and mercury. I think I read about it in

> > Evidence of Harm. But there did show a clear increase in

cellular

> > damage in the presence of testosterone.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>