What Causes Verbal Stimming?

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Happy New Year!!!

My 6yo son has come a long way since he first got diagnosed at 2 1/2. We are

chelating with TD-DMPS 3/4 protocol, using TD-Naltrexone, B-12 all supplements

and he's on SCDiet. He is verbal, but still requires speech theray for his

apraxia. He is doing great and making alot of progress.

But one think that never goes away is these weird noises he makes, doesn't

make them constantly but they increase we he's excited when playing and

sometimes he humms when he's eating and doing school work, which he gets

redirected to have a quite voice. He doesn't have yeast or bacteria, and he's

done it from 2 1/2 years old before any biomedical treatment.

What causes this??? Is there something I can give him to stop.....?

I usually have to redirect him and say No Noises.... use your words. Any

thoughts???

Appreciate it.

Thanks

Jeanne

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Auditory learner, perhaps?

I don't know if this will help you, but I have a similar problem...<BR>

When I was a child, I used to " speak " in my mind (for example for learning,

reading, for recreating conversations that I needed to " hear " again). For

whatever reason it helped to kind of " hear " the words... I am not sure if you

understand what I mean...<BR>

Let's say I am reading a message. I cannot understand a word if I don't whisper

them, or at least say them in my mind (kind of saying them but not speaking),

but hearing them helps. I don't know why. It's the only way I can understand

anything I read.<BR>

Maybe your son has a similar problem. Maybe he needs to make these noises when

he thinks.<BR>

I personally wouldn't stop him, but teach him to do this quietly.<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

Valentina<BR>

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> But one think that never goes away is these weird noises he makes, doesn't

make them constantly but they increase we he's excited when playing and

sometimes he humms when he's eating and doing school work, which he gets

redirected to have a quite voice. He doesn't have yeast or bacteria, and he's

done it from 2 1/2 years old before any biomedical treatment.

> What causes this??? Is there something I can give him to stop.....?

I don't know if this will help you, but I have a similar problem...

When I was a child, I used to " speak " in my mind (for example for learning,

reading, for recreating conversations that I needed to " hear " again). For

whatever reason it helped to kind of " hear " the words... I am not sure if you

understand what I mean...

Let's say I am reading a message. I cannot understand a word if I don't whisper

them, or at least say them in my mind (kind of saying them but not speaking),

but hearing them helps. I don't know why. It's the only way I can understand

anything I read.

Maybe your son has a similar problem. Maybe he needs to make these noises when

he thinks.

I personally wouldn't stop him, but teach him to do this quietly.

Valentina

[Guest guest]

Hi,

The noises are of differences of opinion to many people, but most people

think that they are a calming mechanism. Some think that it is their way of

drowning out something else that is over stimulating. As what the last person

wrote in her email about talking out loud. That is called reauditorization, and

it is common in autism, and also common in children with central auditory

processing disorders. For the exact reason she says, it helps them hear the

words and process their meaning. I think that is why we need to really

understand what is really " ok " and not ok for a child to be doing. My youngest

does this and since he is CAPD, i would never try to extinguish it, but instead

try to build is processing abilities.

hope this helps

crystal

Valentina Scharpf <val999@...> wrote:

> But one think that never goes away is these weird noises he makes, doesn't

make them constantly but they increase we he's excited when playing and

sometimes he humms when he's eating and doing school work, which he gets

redirected to have a quite voice. He doesn't have yeast or bacteria, and he's

done it from 2 1/2 years old before any biomedical treatment.

> What causes this??? Is there something I can give him to stop.....?

I don't know if this will help you, but I have a similar problem...

When I was a child, I used to " speak " in my mind (for example for learning,

reading, for recreating conversations that I needed to " hear " again). For

whatever reason it helped to kind of " hear " the words... I am not sure if you

understand what I mean...

Let's say I am reading a message. I cannot understand a word if I don't whisper

them, or at least say them in my mind (kind of saying them but not speaking),

but hearing them helps. I don't know why. It's the only way I can understand

anything I read.

Maybe your son has a similar problem. Maybe he needs to make these noises when

he thinks.

I personally wouldn't stop him, but teach him to do this quietly.

Valentina

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[Guest guest]

A client I visited recently was mumbling and I noticed that it increased when

the refrigerator (motor?) was running and decreased when it stopped.

S S

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  >   But one think that never goes away is these weird noises he makes, doesn't

make them constantly but they increase we he's excited when playing and

sometimes he humms when he's eating and doing school work, which he gets

redirected to have a quite voice.  He doesn't have yeast or bacteria, and he's

done it from 2 1/2 years old before any biomedical treatment.<BR>

>   What causes this???  Is there something I can give him to stop.....?<BR>

<BR>

I don't know if this will help you, but I have a similar problem...<BR>

When I was a child, I used to " speak " in my mind (for example for learning,

reading, for recreating conversations that I needed to " hear " again). For

whatever reason it helped to kind of " hear " the words... I am not sure if you

understand what I mean...<BR>

Let's say I am reading a message. I cannot understand a word if I don't whisper

them, or at least say them in my mind (kind of saying them but not speaking),

but hearing them helps. I don't know why. It's the only way I can understand

anything I read.<BR>

Maybe your son has a similar problem. Maybe he needs to make these noises when

he thinks.<BR>

I personally wouldn't stop him, but teach him to do this quietly.<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

Valentina<BR>

<BR>

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[Guest guest]

My son uses humming to make a beat for his body to follow. He has a

movement disorder as part of his mercury stew so the beat helps him to move.

Barb

Re: [ ] What Causes Verbal Stimming?

>> But one think that never goes away is these weird noises he makes,

>> doesn't make them constantly but they increase we he's excited when

>> playing and sometimes he humms when he's eating and doing school work,

>> which he gets redirected to have a quite voice. He doesn't have yeast or

>> bacteria, and he's done it from 2 1/2 years old before any biomedical

>> treatment.

>> What causes this??? Is there something I can give him to stop.....?

>

> I don't know if this will help you, but I have a similar problem...

> When I was a child, I used to " speak " in my mind (for example for

> learning, reading, for recreating conversations that I needed to " hear "

> again). For whatever reason it helped to kind of " hear " the words... I am

> not sure if you understand what I mean...

> Let's say I am reading a message. I cannot understand a word if I don't

> whisper them, or at least say them in my mind (kind of saying them but not

> speaking), but hearing them helps. I don't know why. It's the only way I

> can understand anything I read.

> Maybe your son has a similar problem. Maybe he needs to make these noises

> when he thinks.

> I personally wouldn't stop him, but teach him to do this quietly.

>

>

> Valentina

>

>

>

> =======================================================

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[Guest guest]

Tomatis Listening program has improved this significantly in my 6

year old son. He still does some humming but haven't heard him

making any strange noises for months. This also improved his

language and behavior. We did 3 sessions over 5 months. Marilyn W--

- In , Jeanne <jeannebee20032002@y...>

wrote:

>

> Happy New Year!!!

>

> My 6yo son has come a long way since he first got diagnosed at 2

1/2. We are chelating with TD-DMPS 3/4 protocol, using TD-

Naltrexone, B-12 all supplements and he's on SCDiet. He is verbal,

but still requires speech theray for his apraxia. He is doing great

and making alot of progress.

>

> But one think that never goes away is these weird noises he

makes, doesn't make them constantly but they increase we he's

excited when playing and sometimes he humms when he's eating and

doing school work, which he gets redirected to have a quite voice.

He doesn't have yeast or bacteria, and he's done it from 2 1/2 years

old before any biomedical treatment.

>

> What causes this??? Is there something I can give him to

stop.....?

>

> I usually have to redirect him and say No Noises.... use your

words. Any thoughts???

> Appreciate it.

>

> Thanks

> Jeanne

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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>

>

[Guest guest]

> Auditory learner, perhaps?

I don't think is exactly that. Maybe, but I don't think so.

I think is more the fact that I have troubles making the surrounding sounds fade

away. I cannot concentrate on what I'm doing if I hear other sounds. And, of

course, there are always plenty of sounds... cars on the street, the

refrigerator, the TV, somebody talking in the other room, birds singing...

anything...

The same thing applies to my hearing. I have a perfect hearing. I actually can

hear sounds that other people don't. But if you talk to me while the TV is on,

for example, I cannot distinguish a word you say. Your words will overlap the TV

sounds, no matter how low the volume is. And I can assure you this

doesn't happen because I hear sounds louder than they actually are. It is

definitely not that. But it is the fact that I cannot make certain sounds fade

in the background. So when I have to read, or concentrate about something

important, I have to make the sound of my mind louder than the surroundings.

Not sure if this explanation is clear...

Valentina

[Guest guest]

That actually makes lots of sense. For me if I am watching TV I get very

fustrated with any other noise because it makes it impossible for me to hear

what people are saying on TV. I have to have the volume way up and I also have

perfect hearing. Had it tested and the person commented on my range of hearing.

Everything distracts, the dishwasher sounds like it is a semi driving through my

living room, kids playing drives me insane. I usually give up and watch

something only after they are in bed.

Valentina Scharpf <val999@...> wrote:

> Auditory learner, perhaps?

I don't think is exactly that. Maybe, but I don't think so.

I think is more the fact that I have troubles making the surrounding sounds fade

away. I cannot concentrate on what I'm doing if I hear other sounds. And, of

course, there are always plenty of sounds... cars on the street, the

refrigerator, the TV, somebody talking in the other room, birds singing...

anything...

The same thing applies to my hearing. I have a perfect hearing. I actually can

hear sounds that other people don't. But if you talk to me while the TV is on,

for example, I cannot distinguish a word you say. Your words will overlap the TV

sounds, no matter how low the volume is. And I can assure you this

doesn't happen because I hear sounds louder than they actually are. It is

definitely not that. But it is the fact that I cannot make certain sounds fade

in the background. So when I have to read, or concentrate about something

important, I have to make the sound of my mind louder than the surroundings.

Not sure if this explanation is clear...

Valentina

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[Guest guest]

> That actually makes lots of sense. For me if I am watching TV I get very

fustrated with any other noise because it makes it impossible for me to hear

what people are saying on TV. I have to have the volume way up

LOL!!! Don't I know what you're going through )

And I have the perfect solution! Turn the captions ON It works perfectly!

Valentina

[Guest guest]

That is a truly brilliant idea!!!

Many thanks!

Valentina Scharpf <val999@...> wrote:

> That actually makes lots of sense. For me if I am watching TV I get very

fustrated with any other noise because it makes it impossible for me to hear

what people are saying on TV. I have to have the volume way up

LOL!!! Don't I know what you're going through )

And I have the perfect solution! Turn the captions ON It works perfectly!

Valentina

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