Re: So MUCH SALIVATION -- what does it mean?

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Don't make him swallow, help him collect it in tissues if necessary, you don't

want it to

end up in his lungs.

http://www.mercuryexposure.org

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> My son who just started on the DAN protocal has been salivating so much. He

spits

everywhere. We try to stop him -- give him time outs -- nothing helps. What

does this

mean? What's causing this? Any advice please.

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> More background:

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> ASD (little language only & some stimming), 5yrs, GF/CF diet, Methyl B12

injections,

Viamin C, E, fish oil & Carnaware

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> Any advice please.

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> My son who just started on the DAN protocal has been salivating so

much. He spits everywhere. We try to stop him -- give him time outs

-- nothing helps. What does this mean? What's causing this? Any

advice please.

On another message board, this was related to virus issues, and

starting anti-virals eliminated the problem.

Dana

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Hello, My son never had this problem but I looked in my notes when I

was a very active member. I could be a sign of not being able to

detox out the ammonia the body makes - pretty serious. I have two

differnt thread for you to read you may even be able to email these

people still? At the Enzyme-autism group #71997 and at the

chelatingkids2 group # 63452

Good luck. Ann

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What chelator, dose, and dosing shedule are you using? I presume your son has

NO mercury amalgam dental fillings. If he has any amalgam fillings stop

chelation immediately. If not, try Andy's protocol instead of the DAN protocol.

Excessive exposure to mercury causes excessive salivation (perhaps the body's

way of trying to dilute the toxins?) Most DAN docs prescribe/recommend too high

a dose and too infrequent dosing which runs the risk of redistributing rather

than chelating the toxins.

S S

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My son who just started on the DAN protocal has been salivating so much.  He

spits everywhere.  We try to stop him -- give him time outs -- nothing helps. 

What does this mean?  What's causing this?  Any advice please.<BR>

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  More background:<BR>

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  ASD (little language only & some stimming), 5yrs, GF/CF diet, Methyl B12

injections, Viamin C, E, fish oil & Carnaware<BR>

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  Any advice please.<BR>

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Hi,

Where is the enzyme-autism group ? Is it a group ?

[ ] Re: So MUCH SALIVATION -- what does it mean?

Hello, My son never had this problem but I looked in my notes when I

was a very active member. I could be a sign of not being able to

detox out the ammonia the body makes - pretty serious. I have two

differnt thread for you to read you may even be able to email these

people still? At the Enzyme-autism group #71997 and at the

chelatingkids2 group # 63452

Good luck. Ann

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Hi

Yes, Enzymes and Autism is a group. Go here:

/?yguid=198943229

take care

René

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No B vitamins? No magnesium, no minerals?

What DAN protocol did he start?

Valentina

> My son who just started on the DAN protocal has been salivating so much. He

spits everywhere. We try to stop him -- give him time outs -- nothing helps.

What does this mean? What's causing this? Any advice please.

>

> More background:

>

> ASD (little language only & some stimming), 5yrs, GF/CF diet, Methyl B12

injections, Viamin C, E, fish oil & Carnaware

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We are not up to chelation yet -- we are now starting nutrients. For the last 6

weeks my son started Methyl B-12 injections.

Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote:

What chelator, dose, and dosing shedule are you using? I presume your son has NO

mercury amalgam dental fillings. If he has any amalgam fillings stop chelation

immediately. If not, try Andy's protocol instead of the DAN protocol. Excessive

exposure to mercury causes excessive salivation (perhaps the body's way of

trying to dilute the toxins?) Most DAN docs prescribe/recommend too high a dose

and too infrequent dosing which runs the risk of redistributing rather than

chelating the toxins.

S S

My son who just started on the DAN protocal has been salivating so much. He

spits everywhere. We try to stop him -- give him time outs -- nothing helps.

What does this mean? What's causing this? Any advice please.

More background:

ASD (little language only & some stimming), 5yrs, GF/CF diet, Methyl B12

injections, Viamin C, E, fish oil & Carnaware

Any advice please.

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We just completed the first 6 weeks of DAN protocal with Methyl B-12. The next

6 weeks we will continue B-12 and add nutrients. There is a powder which is

supposed to be diluted which has all the nutrients in one.

Valentina Scharpf <val999@...> wrote: No B vitamins? No magnesium, no

minerals?

What DAN protocol did he start?

Valentina

> My son who just started on the DAN protocal has been salivating so much. He

spits everywhere. We try to stop him -- give him time outs -- nothing helps.

What does this mean? What's causing this? Any advice please.

>

> More background:

>

> ASD (little language only & some stimming), 5yrs, GF/CF diet, Methyl B12

injections, Viamin C, E, fish oil & Carnaware

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I am sorry, I don't think I understand...

When did he start salivating a lot? During the B12 " protocol " ?

Or you started all those supplements and the diet at the same time with B12?

You spent 6 weeks just giving B12 injections?

I am sorry I have so many questions, but I am just trying to understand when he

started salivating/spitting...

Valentina

> We just completed the first 6 weeks of DAN protocal with Methyl B-12. The

next 6 weeks we will continue B-12 and add nutrients. There is a powder which

is supposed to be diluted which has all the nutrients in one.

>

> Valentina Scharpf <val999@...> wrote: No B vitamins? No magnesium, no

minerals?

> What DAN protocol did he start?

>

> Valentina

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> > My son who just started on the DAN protocal has been salivating so much. He

spits everywhere. We try to stop him -- give him time outs -- nothing helps.

What does this mean? What's causing this? Any advice please.

> >

> > More background:

> >

> > ASD (little language only & some stimming), 5yrs, GF/CF diet, Methyl B12

injections, Viamin C, E, fish oil & Carnaware

>

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Its OK. Please ask as many questions as needed.

He started the salivating about a week before the B-12 protocal. So we spent

6 weeks giving him just B-12. The salivating has gotten a little worse after

the B-12.

This week we add the nutrients.

Valentina Scharpf <val999@...> wrote:

I am sorry, I don't think I understand...

When did he start salivating a lot? During the B12 " protocol " ?

Or you started all those supplements and the diet at the same time with B12?

You spent 6 weeks just giving B12 injections?

I am sorry I have so many questions, but I am just trying to understand when he

started salivating/spitting...

Valentina

> We just completed the first 6 weeks of DAN protocal with Methyl B-12. The

next 6 weeks we will continue B-12 and add nutrients. There is a powder which

is supposed to be diluted which has all the nutrients in one.

>

> Valentina Scharpf <val999@...> wrote: No B vitamins? No magnesium, no

minerals?

> What DAN protocol did he start?

>

> Valentina

>

> > My son who just started on the DAN protocal has been salivating so much. He

spits everywhere. We try to stop him -- give him time outs -- nothing helps.

What does this mean? What's causing this? Any advice please.

> >

> > More background:

> >

> > ASD (little language only & some stimming), 5yrs, GF/CF diet, Methyl B12

injections, Viamin C, E, fish oil & Carnaware

>

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Infection might increase salivation. Also nasal obstruction (being forced to

breath using the mouth), certain drugs (that stimulate the cholinergic system),

allergies could also do it.

I think low inositol and serotonin could also cause the body to react like this.

I would definitely reconsider the B12 injections. Maybe stop them for a while

and see how things go. I am not saying B12 causes this, but who knows...

Is your son high cysteine?

What is carnosine doing? What are you giving it for? What progresses did your

son have while in carnosine?

Valentina

> He started the salivating about a week before the B-12 protocal. So we

spent 6 weeks giving him just B-12. The salivating has gotten a little worse

after the B-12.

>

> This week we add the nutrients.

>

> Valentina Scharpf <val999@...> wrote:

> I am sorry, I don't think I understand...

> When did he start salivating a lot? During the B12 " protocol " ?

> Or you started all those supplements and the diet at the same time with B12?

> You spent 6 weeks just giving B12 injections?

> I am sorry I have so many questions, but I am just trying to understand when

he started salivating/spitting...

>

> Valentina

>

> > We just completed the first 6 weeks of DAN protocal with Methyl B-12. The

next 6 weeks we will continue B-12 and add nutrients. There is a powder which

is supposed to be diluted which has all the nutrients in one.

> >

> > Valentina Scharpf <val999@...> wrote: No B vitamins? No magnesium,

no minerals?

> > What DAN protocol did he start?

> >

> > Valentina

> >

> > > My son who just started on the DAN protocal has been salivating so much.

He spits everywhere. We try to stop him -- give him time outs -- nothing helps.

What does this mean? What's causing this? Any advice please.

> > >

> > > More background:

> > >

> > > ASD (little language only & some stimming), 5yrs, GF/CF diet, Methyl B12

injections, Viamin C, E, fish oil & Carnaware

> >

>

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All what nutrients?

S S

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We just completed the first 6 weeks of DAN protocal with Methyl B-12.  The next

6 weeks we will continue B-12 and add nutrients.  There is a powder which is

supposed to be diluted which has all the nutrients in one.<BR>

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