Re: Pressure points, biting, roof of mouth HELP!

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Have you stopped the too-high dose round or ended it? He's apparently trying to

deal with the effects of the too-high dose. If it continues when you go to the

lower dose let us know. If he's verbal or otherwise communicative ask him what

he's feeling and how putting things in his mouth helps. Try to figure out

something safe that he can put in his mouth to give him the same relief for

which he's trying to use the unsafe items.

S S

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Tom frequently bites or mouths the fleshy part of the oppostie to <BR>

thumb edge of his hand.  Not to the point of bite marks but definitely <BR>

bites or pinches it, giving him some relief.<BR>

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the last few days (since swithcing to 8 hourly DMPS) he's been pushing <BR>

things into the roof of his mouth.  Last night when I went to tuck him <BR>

in he'd stuffed shoe laces into his mouth (!!!) and was asleep. TOday <BR>

he's stuffing his mouth with socks.  Apart from teh choking risk which <BR>

is making us watch like hawks - what is he doing? Is this a pain <BR>

relief thing?  He's non verbal so we can't ask him where/if it hurts. <BR>

Is this a sign of what hurts?<BR>

<BR>

Really value your input.  We've done his first foray into 8 hourly at <BR>

too high a dose and he's very upset (yes, we're deeply stupid, and <BR>

he's been doing so, so well)<BR>

<BR>

Happynew year<BR>

<BR>

Steph, UK mum of Tom, 7, ASD, reallydoing very well!  <BR>

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The hand bit he's done for months now. The roof of his mouth is just

since the too high dose. We've stopped that round now so we'll see

what happens. His favourite thing to put in his mouth is rubber toys

but we try to stop that as we're not sure what they excrete.

However, probably preferable to wadges of shoelaces.

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> Tom frequently bites or mouths the fleshy part of the oppostie to

<BR>

> thumb edge of his hand.  Not to the point of bite marks but

definitely <BR>

> bites or pinches it, giving him some relief.<BR>

> <BR>

> the last few days (since swithcing to 8 hourly DMPS) he's been

pushing <BR>

> things into the roof of his mouth.  Last night when I went to tuck

him <BR>

> in he'd stuffed shoe laces into his mouth (!!!) and was asleep.

TOday <BR>

> he's stuffing his mouth with socks.  Apart from teh choking risk

which <BR>

> is making us watch like hawks - what is he doing? Is this a pain

<BR>

> relief thing?  He's non verbal so we can't ask him where/if it

hurts. <BR>

> Is this a sign of what hurts?<BR>

> <BR>

> Really value your input.  We've done his first foray into 8 hourly

at <BR>

> too high a dose and he's very upset (yes, we're deeply stupid, and

<BR>

> he's been doing so, so well)<BR>

> <BR>

> Happynew year<BR>

> <BR>

> Steph, UK mum of Tom, 7, ASD, reallydoing very well!  <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

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> Tom frequently bites or mouths the fleshy part of the oppostie to

> thumb edge of his hand. Not to the point of bite marks but definitely

> bites or pinches it, giving him some relief.

>

> the last few days (since swithcing to 8 hourly DMPS) he's been pushing

> things into the roof of his mouth. Last night when I went to tuck him

> in he'd stuffed shoe laces into his mouth (!!!) and was asleep.

LOL! I am sorry, but this image makes me laugh

My son used to do this a lot. He liked to chew on anything that was soft. The

only thing he would use the stuffed toys for was to break them open, take the

stuffing out and suck it. Sometimes I wouldn't even know he had something in

his mouth... I would try to feed him and he would refuse to open his mouth,

only to find out that he was " eating " already

He couldn't bite or chew his food back then. Also, he couldn't speak at all.

Chelation is what took care of these. (I don't know if some supplement in

particular).

Valentina

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Wil he allow you to do deep pressure massage of the area of his hand that he

usually bites? Look at reflexology charts to see what organs correspond to the

area he bites. I've worked with individuals with challenges for about 20 years

and many bite the area at the base of the thumb or the heel of the hand (fleshy

area below the little finger). A catalog for Abilitations has a number of safe

chewy items for individuals of different ages. Sometimes the biting has to do

with the area being bitten, sometimes with a need for stimulation of the mouth.

Stimulation of the mouth can often help spoken language increase or emerge.

S S

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The hand bit he's done for months now. The roof of his mouth is just <BR>

since the too high dose.  We've stopped that round now so we'll see <BR>

what happens. His favourite thing to put in his mouth is rubber toys <BR>

but we try to stop that as we're not sure what they excrete. <BR>

However, probably preferable to wadges of shoelaces.<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

> <BR>

> <tt><BR>

> Tom frequently bites or mouths the fleshy part of the oppostie to <BR>

<BR><BR>

> thumb edge of his hand.  Not to the point of bite marks but <BR>

definitely <BR><BR>

> bites or pinches it, giving him some relief.<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> the last few days (since swithcing to 8 hourly DMPS) he's been <BR>

pushing <BR><BR>

> things into the roof of his mouth.  Last night when I went to tuck <BR>

him <BR><BR>

> in he'd stuffed shoe laces into his mouth (!!!) and was asleep. <BR>

TOday <BR><BR>

> he's stuffing his mouth with socks.  Apart from teh choking risk <BR>

which <BR><BR>

> is making us watch like hawks - what is he doing? Is this a pain <BR>

<BR><BR>

> relief thing?  He's non verbal so we can't ask him where/if it <BR>

hurts. <BR><BR>

> Is this a sign of what hurts?<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> Really value your input.  We've done his first foray into 8 hourly <BR>

at <BR><BR>

> too high a dose and he's very upset (yes, we're deeply stupid, and <BR>

<BR><BR>

> he's been doing so, so well)<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> Happynew year<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> Steph, UK mum of Tom, 7, ASD, reallydoing very well!  <BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

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Have you tried supplementing zinc ???? I rub on a little Kirkmans zinc

cream and oral supplement and the teeth grinding & fingers in the mouth

stops, the toy & shirt chewing stop. Chelating depletes minerals...consider

adding some extra zinc.

Lillian

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[ ] Re: Pressure points, biting, roof of mouth HELP!

The hand bit he's done for months now. The roof of his mouth is just

since the too high dose. We've stopped that round now so we'll see

what happens. His favourite thing to put in his mouth is rubber toys

but we try to stop that as we're not sure what they excrete.

However, probably preferable to wadges of shoelaces.

>

> <tt>

> Tom frequently bites or mouths the fleshy part of the oppostie to

<BR>

> thumb edge of his hand. Not to the point of bite marks but

definitely <BR>

> bites or pinches it, giving him some relief.<BR>

> <BR>

> the last few days (since swithcing to 8 hourly DMPS) he's been

pushing <BR>

> things into the roof of his mouth. Last night when I went to tuck

him <BR>

> in he'd stuffed shoe laces into his mouth (!!!) and was asleep.

TOday <BR>

> he's stuffing his mouth with socks. Apart from teh choking risk

which <BR>

> is making us watch like hawks - what is he doing? Is this a pain

<BR>

> relief thing? He's non verbal so we can't ask him where/if it

hurts. <BR>

> Is this a sign of what hurts?<BR>

> <BR>

> Really value your input. We've done his first foray into 8 hourly

at <BR>

> too high a dose and he's very upset (yes, we're deeply stupid, and

<BR>

> he's been doing so, so well)<BR>

> <BR>

> Happynew year<BR>

> <BR>

> Steph, UK mum of Tom, 7, ASD, reallydoing very well! <BR>

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> the last few days (since swithcing to 8 hourly DMPS) he's been pushing

> things into the roof of his mouth. Last night when I went to tuck him

> in he'd stuffed shoe laces into his mouth (!!!) and was asleep. TOday

> he's stuffing his mouth with socks. Apart from teh choking risk which

> is making us watch like hawks - what is he doing? Is this a pain

> relief thing? He's non verbal so we can't ask him where/if it hurts.

> Is this a sign of what hurts?

My #3 put almost everything into his mouth when he had a yeast

overgrowth issue.

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Dana