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Meg,

How long have you been on it ? Is it possible that the particular

batch of injection you are using is causing him pain. I read in one

of Dr.Neubrander's paper (he is the father of b12 shots

http://www.drneubrander.com) that if the pH of the solution is not

proper when its prepared by the compounding pharmacy it can be

painful. If you have been doing multiple batches and it is still a

issue maybe its not the pH. Btw, what compounding pharmacy do you

use ?

We have been doing the shots with my 21/2 yr old for a couple of

weeks now and use the numbing cream. He doesnt even move and i know

for sure the numbing cream is effective.

Can you try the shots on yourself after numbing the place. If it

hurts you too then i would order another batch and see. The shots

have done wonders for my son and so it would be a bummer if you have

to discontinue it for the wrong reasons.

Kavitha

>

> Dear All,

>

> We have been using Lidocain to numb the area in the upper quadrant

> of our 7 yr old son's buttock area to prepare the site for

> injection. We have tried leaving it up for up to 45 min, covered w/

> a piece of plastic, before injecting, both awake, and asleep. We

> have foregone the awake-injections b/c it hurts him so much. Even

> during sleep, 1 and 2 ours in to sleeping, he still reacts like he

> would in awake hours. He jolts, brushes away the needle, and

> basically fidgits as if there was no numbing effect.

>

> I tried last night to numb the area on the back of my upper arm, as

> I did with his, for the first time (trying the arm). I wanted to

see

> how effective the cream was, and after 45 min I couldn't feel a

> thing. Still, he was fidgity and jumpy, and we could only get 1/2

> the shot's contents in.

>

> Please advise... Any less sensitive areas to try?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Meg

>

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> We have been using Lidocain to numb the area in the upper quadrant

> of our 7 yr old son's buttock area to prepare the site for

> injection. We have tried leaving it up for up to 45 min, covered w/

> a piece of plastic, before injecting, both awake, and asleep. We

> have foregone the awake-injections b/c it hurts him so much.

I don't use injections, but from other messages I have read, check the

following:

What is the needle size? It should be VERY small.

What angle do you use? I forget the exact angle that is required, but

many people are giving it at the wrong angle. It needs to be in the

fat, and not any other area.

> I tried last night to numb the area on the back of my upper arm, as

> I did with his, for the first time (trying the arm). I wanted to see

> how effective the cream was, and after 45 min I couldn't feel a

> thing. Still, he was fidgity and jumpy, and we could only get 1/2

> the shot's contents in.

Are you sure it is the injection itself, or the effects of what was

injected? For example, mB12 caused lots of problems for my #3 until I

gave it with folic acid and increased his yeast protocol.

Dana

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Just a thought for your consideration...our B12 has to be refigerated. Are you

giving it ample time to come to room temp prior to injection? It may help...

Sharon

[ ] Re: B-12 injections - need help

Meg,

How long have you been on it ? Is it possible that the particular

batch of injection you are using is causing him pain. I read in one

of Dr.Neubrander's paper (he is the father of b12 shots

http://www.drneubrander.com) that if the pH of the solution is not

proper when its prepared by the compounding pharmacy it can be

painful. If you have been doing multiple batches and it is still a

issue maybe its not the pH. Btw, what compounding pharmacy do you

use ?

We have been doing the shots with my 21/2 yr old for a couple of

weeks now and use the numbing cream. He doesnt even move and i know

for sure the numbing cream is effective.

Can you try the shots on yourself after numbing the place. If it

hurts you too then i would order another batch and see. The shots

have done wonders for my son and so it would be a bummer if you have

to discontinue it for the wrong reasons.

Kavitha

>

> Dear All,

>

> We have been using Lidocain to numb the area in the upper quadrant

> of our 7 yr old son's buttock area to prepare the site for

> injection. We have tried leaving it up for up to 45 min, covered w/

> a piece of plastic, before injecting, both awake, and asleep. We

> have foregone the awake-injections b/c it hurts him so much. Even

> during sleep, 1 and 2 ours in to sleeping, he still reacts like he

> would in awake hours. He jolts, brushes away the needle, and

> basically fidgits as if there was no numbing effect.

>

> I tried last night to numb the area on the back of my upper arm, as

> I did with his, for the first time (trying the arm). I wanted to

see

> how effective the cream was, and after 45 min I couldn't feel a

> thing. Still, he was fidgity and jumpy, and we could only get 1/2

> the shot's contents in.

>

> Please advise... Any less sensitive areas to try?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Meg

>

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Lee Silsby pharmacy now has a transdermal B12. You might try that.

Rima Regas

Mom to Leah, age 8 (AS, DSI and APD)

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On 3/25/06, wcrist@... <wcrist@...> wrote:

>

> Just a thought for your consideration...our B12 has to be

> refigerated. Are you giving it ample time to come to room temp prior to

> injection? It may help...

> Sharon

>

> [ ] Re: B-12 injections - need help

>

>

> Meg,

>

> How long have you been on it ? Is it possible that the particular

> batch of injection you are using is causing him pain. I read in one

> of Dr.Neubrander's paper (he is the father of b12 shots

> http://www.drneubrander.com) that if the pH of the solution is not

> proper when its prepared by the compounding pharmacy it can be

> painful. If you have been doing multiple batches and it is still a

> issue maybe its not the pH. Btw, what compounding pharmacy do you

> use ?

>

> We have been doing the shots with my 21/2 yr old for a couple of

> weeks now and use the numbing cream. He doesnt even move and i know

> for sure the numbing cream is effective.

>

> Can you try the shots on yourself after numbing the place. If it

> hurts you too then i would order another batch and see. The shots

> have done wonders for my son and so it would be a bummer if you have

> to discontinue it for the wrong reasons.

>

> Kavitha

>

>

>

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