Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Posted March 11, 2006 In a message dated 3/11/2006 4:32:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dannenedrummond@... writes: Is this the sign of a deficiency?? i agree, he may be in pain. My son use to hit and bite himself, a long time ago, and he ended up having appendicitis. Quote
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Posted March 11, 2006 I would say he is in pain. Find the source of the pain. GI? Headache? --- dannenedrummond <dannenedrummond@...> wrote: > My son started slapping himself today. First he was > slapping his arm > then he was slapping his leg. And he looks at the > spot he is > slapping, like he is looking to see if it bruises or > makes a mark or > something. It is really weird! Is there anything I > can do to get him > to stop?? Is this the sign of a deficiency?? > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Posted March 11, 2006 omg, that's horrible!!! did he have any other signs??? my son seems perfectly happy and is playing. > > > In a message dated 3/11/2006 4:32:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > dannenedrummond@... writes: > > Is this the sign of a deficiency?? > > > > > i agree, he may be in pain. My son use to hit and bite himself, a long time > ago, and he ended up having appendicitis. > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Posted March 11, 2006 It's so hard for me to imagine him being in pain. He never whines or holds his stomach or head so it never seems like he is in pain. But he has been having a lot of looser stool today so maybe he has a bellyache > > > My son started slapping himself today. First he was > > slapping his arm > > then he was slapping his leg. And he looks at the > > spot he is > > slapping, like he is looking to see if it bruises or > > makes a mark or > > something. It is really weird! Is there anything I > > can do to get him > > to stop?? Is this the sign of a deficiency?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Posted March 11, 2006 http://www.enzymestuff.com/serotonin.htm " . McDougle and colleagues (see The Serotonin System in Autism below) found exacerbation of behaviors such as whirling, flapping, pacing, banging and hitting self, rocking, toe walking and anxiety in more than 50% of adults with autism after tryptophan depletion. " . " You can buy a supplement of the next precursor in the line on its way to becoming serotonin. It is called 5-HTP. " . Mark > > My son started slapping himself today. First he was slapping his arm > then he was slapping his leg. And he looks at the spot he is > slapping, like he is looking to see if it bruises or makes a mark or > something. It is really weird! Is there anything I can do to get him > to stop?? Is this the sign of a deficiency?? > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Posted March 11, 2006 What supplements have you added lately? Are you chelating? What chelator, route, and dosing schedule? When was his last vaccine? Does he have any mercury amalgam dental fillings? How recently? Does he have a history of tactile defensiveness? Is he on any prescription meds? Is he verbal or otherwise communicative? Have you asked him why he's hitting himself? Something may be causing his arms and legs to tingle like when one's foot " falls asleep " and hitting may be his way of trying to " wake it up " ? S S --- dannenedrummond <dannenedrummond@...><BR> wrote:<BR> <BR> > My son started slapping himself today. First he was<BR> > slapping his arm <BR> > then he was slapping his leg. And he looks at the<BR> > spot he is <BR> > slapping, like he is looking to see if it bruises or<BR> > makes a mark or <BR> > something. It is really weird! Is there anything I<BR> > can do to get him <BR> > to stop?? Is this the sign of a deficiency??<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> <BR> <BR> __________________________________________________<BR> Quote
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Posted March 11, 2006 Thanks Mark. I heard that helps them sleep better too! > > > > My son started slapping himself today. First he was slapping his arm > > then he was slapping his leg. And he looks at the spot he is > > slapping, like he is looking to see if it bruises or makes a mark or > > something. It is really weird! Is there anything I can do to get him > > to stop?? Is this the sign of a deficiency?? > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Posted March 11, 2006 What supplements have you added lately? Only antifungal medicine Are you chelating? yes, td-dmps, 3 days on 4 days off. When was his last vaccine? years Does he have any mercury amalgam dental fillings? How recently? no Does he have a history of tactile defensiveness? no Is he on any prescription meds? just the antifungals Is he verbal or otherwise communicative? nonverbal Have you asked him why he's hitting himself? yes Something may be causing his arms and legs to tingle like when one's foot " falls asleep " and hitting may be his way of trying to " wake it up " ? maybe, that sounds pretty plausible because he has been laughing madly so I don't think he's in pain > S S > > > > --- dannenedrummond <dannenedrummond@...><BR> > wrote:<BR> > <BR> > > My son started slapping himself today. First he was<BR> > > slapping his arm <BR> > > then he was slapping his leg. And he looks at the<BR> > > spot he is <BR> > > slapping, like he is looking to see if it bruises or<BR> > > makes a mark or <BR> > > something. It is really weird! Is there anything I<BR> > > can do to get him <BR> > > to stop?? Is this the sign of a deficiency??<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > __________________________________________________<BR> > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Posted March 11, 2006 I've often wondered also if hitting self could be from lack of feeling (ie. casomorphins, etc). It would make sense that they are seeking stimulation and can't get it so they hit harder and harder. Keep us posted. Mark > <snip> Quote
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Posted March 11, 2006 --- dannenedrummond <dannenedrummond@...> wrote: he > has been > laughing madly This is a classic symptom of yeast over growth. We have had enormous success by greatly restricting our son's diet to water, green vegetables, onions, squash, veal, eggs and bacon, and pears. That's it. He is much, much calmer! He is also on Nystatin, 3 pills per day (he's 50 lbs). And, yes, I know that's a lot. Our son had liver enzyme problems with Diflucan. __________________________________________________ Quote
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Posted March 11, 2006 We just started diflucan on friday and the doctor recommended some other yeast medications in addition but I haven't been able to get to the store yet. I have had him tested for yeast and it was negative. Is that common too? It wasn't recently though. The doctor only prescribed the diflucan for 3x a week. I hope that's enough. He is CRAZY! > > he > > has been > > laughing madly > > This is a classic symptom of yeast over growth. > > We have had enormous success by greatly restricting > our son's diet to water, green vegetables, onions, > squash, veal, eggs and bacon, and pears. That's it. He > is much, much calmer! > > He is also on Nystatin, 3 pills per day (he's > 50 lbs). And, yes, I know that's a lot. > > Our son had liver enzyme problems with Diflucan. > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2006 Report Posted March 12, 2006 The laughing ususally means yeast. I don't know if using antifungals tends to increase yeast or not. What's in the antifungal? Also as people chelate they sometimes have changes in sensations, particularly their hypersensitve or hyposensitive hearing normalizes and seems weird to them. This may also happen with tactile sensations. S S <tt> What supplements have you added lately? Only antifungal medicine<BR> Are you chelating? yes, td-dmps, 3 days on 4 days off. When was his <BR> last vaccine? years<BR> Does he have any mercury amalgam dental fillings? How recently? no <BR> Does he have a history of tactile defensiveness? no<BR> Is he on any prescription meds? just the antifungals<BR> Is he verbal or otherwise communicative? nonverbal<BR> Have you asked him why he's hitting himself? yes<BR> Something may be causing his arms and legs to tingle like when one's <BR> foot " falls asleep " and hitting may be his way of trying to " wake it <BR> up " ? maybe, that sounds pretty plausible because he has been <BR> laughing madly so I don't think he's in pain<BR> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2006 Report Posted March 12, 2006 antifungals is what you treat yeast with (diflucan is what we are using). I am about to go to the health food store and buy some probiotics (I hope someone will help me there because I have no idea what they are), virastop (because I keep hearing about it on here and I saw it there), grapefruit leaf extract and olive leaf extract. This is what the doctor emailed me to get: Add probiotics (acidophilus and bifidus) as well as the good yeast saccromycetes boulardi (in addition to the diflucan) Does that sound about right? I have had concerns that maybe there was a yeast problem. You should hear him laugh. It is maniacle and he does it all day. He sounds so crazy! I hope this does the job because it is so obnoxious and hard to go out in public with that laughing. > > > <tt> > What supplements have you added lately? Only antifungal medicine<BR> > Are you chelating? yes, td-dmps, 3 days on 4 days off. When was his <BR> > last vaccine? years<BR> > Does he have any mercury amalgam dental fillings? How recently? no <BR> > Does he have a history of tactile defensiveness? no<BR> > Is he on any prescription meds? just the antifungals<BR> > Is he verbal or otherwise communicative? nonverbal<BR> > Have you asked him why he's hitting himself? yes<BR> > Something may be causing his arms and legs to tingle like when one's <BR> > foot " falls asleep " and hitting may be his way of trying to " wake it <BR> > up " ? maybe, that sounds pretty plausible because he has been <BR> > laughing madly so I don't think he's in pain<BR> > > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2006 Report Posted March 12, 2006 My confusion I was remembering people write that antibacterials increase yeast or yeast protocols increase bacteria. Probiotics replenish the good " gut bugs " . Most probiotics contain either dairy or soy so watch for those ingredients if your child is sensitive to either. We use a dairy-free chewable banana wafer probiotic. S S <tt> antifungals is what you treat yeast with (diflucan is what we are <BR> using). I am about to go to the health food store and buy some <BR> probiotics (I hope someone will help me there because I have no idea <BR> what they are), virastop (because I keep hearing about it on here <BR> and I saw it there), grapefruit leaf extract and olive leaf <BR> extract. This is what the doctor emailed me to get: Add probiotics <BR> (acidophilus and<BR> bifidus) as well as the good yeast saccromycetes boulardi (in <BR> addition to the diflucan) Does that sound about right? I have had <BR> concerns that maybe there was a yeast problem. You should hear him <BR> laugh. It is maniacle and he does it all day. He sounds so crazy! <BR> I hope this does the job because it is so obnoxious and hard to go <BR> out in public with that laughing.<BR> <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <tt><BR> > What supplements have you added lately? Only antifungal <BR> medicine<BR><BR> > Are you chelating? yes, td-dmps, 3 days on 4 days off. When was <BR> his <BR><BR> > last vaccine? years<BR><BR> > Does he have any mercury amalgam dental fillings? How recently? <BR> no <BR><BR> > Does he have a history of tactile defensiveness? no<BR><BR> > Is he on any prescription meds? just the antifungals<BR><BR> > Is he verbal or otherwise communicative? nonverbal<BR><BR> > Have you asked him why he's hitting himself? yes<BR><BR> > Something may be causing his arms and legs to tingle like when <BR> one's <BR><BR> > foot " falls asleep " and hitting may be his way of trying to " wake <BR> it <BR><BR> > up " ? maybe, that sounds pretty plausible because he has been <BR><BR> > laughing madly so I don't think he's in pain<BR><BR> > <BR> > <BR> > _______________________________________________<BR> > Join Excite! - <a href= " http://www.excite.com " >http://www.excite.com</a><BR> > The most personalized portal on the Web!<BR> ><BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> </tt> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br><br> <tt> =======================================================<BR> Quote
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2006 Report Posted March 12, 2006 > > What supplements have you added lately? Only antifungal medicine Yeast die off symptoms can sometimes cause a person to hit himself. > Something may be causing his arms and legs to tingle like when one's > foot " falls asleep " and hitting may be his way of trying to " wake it > up " ? maybe, that sounds pretty plausible because he has been > laughing madly so I don't think he's in pain " Laughing madly " sounds like yeast overgrowth or phenol intolerance. He might not tolerate the Nystatin. Are you giving high doses of B6, and if so, do you give it with other Bs and magnesium? B6 toxicity commonly causes tingling/numbness in the hands and feet, which causes many kids to slap those areas. Dana Quote
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