Re: Vaccination Guilt question??

January 27, 2006

Honestly, I don't know if the guilt will ever go away for me. I felt uneasy

about the whole vaccine thing but was talked into it by doctors and friends.

What helps is helping others and doing my best to save other children. My

husband and I have three younger siblings who are just now getting married and

wanting to start families. I feel good that I prevented my second son from

getting it and I really hope I can prevent it in my brother's children.

Saving other children is how I am coping. Hopefully when he is recovered he

can say he forgives me.

Ajerseygirl52@... wrote:

I have been having a problem with guilt lately and I wanted opinions please?

I feel in my heart that all three of my sons have autism, adhd and

development delays because of the vaccinations they received with the mercury

and

thermosol. How do I get past the guilt of poisoning my children unknowingly so

bad that they are damaged for life? I feel so bad especially with my son that

has severe nonverbal autism. My two younger sons are progressing well and

hopefully will adjust to life with their disorders and be ok..but I feel so

guilty about my oldest son, especially when I see kids his age doing stuff he

will

never do...like drive, have relationships, graduate high school with a

regular education diploma, get married, have kids..attend college, go into the

military whatever he wanted to with his life, simple stuff like go bowling

with

friends.. that because I listened to my doctors, I gave him poison and it

hurt him for life. How do I get past the guilt? Thank you for any advise or

suggestions that you have!

Hugs and Happiness,

Sue..

" Some people believe in destiny, some believe in faith, I believe that

Happiness is something we create with both Faith and Destiny! "

January 27, 2006

>

> I have been having a problem with guilt lately and I wanted

opinions please?

> I feel in my heart that all three of my sons have autism, adhd

and

> development delays because of the vaccinations they received with

the mercury and

> thermosol. How do I get past the guilt of poisoning my children

unknowingly so

> bad that they are damaged for life? I feel so bad especially with

my son that

> has severe nonverbal autism. My two younger sons are progressing

well and

> hopefully will adjust to life with their disorders and be ok..but

I feel so

> guilty about my oldest son, especially when I see kids his age

doing stuff he will

> never do...like drive, have relationships, graduate high school

with a

> regular education diploma, get married, have kids..attend college,

go into the

> military whatever he wanted to with his life, simple stuff like

go bowling with

> friends.. that because I listened to my doctors, I gave him poison

and it

> hurt him for life. How do I get past the guilt? Thank you for any

advise or

> suggestions that you have!

> Hugs and Happiness,

> Sue..

>

> " Some people believe in destiny, some believe in faith, I believe

that

> Happiness is something we create with both Faith and Destiny! "

>

January 27, 2006

> I have been having a problem with guilt lately and I wanted opinions please?

> I feel in my heart that all three of my sons have autism, adhd and

> development delays because of the vaccinations they received with the mercury

and

> thermosol. How do I get past the guilt of poisoning my children

Are you chelating your kids? If not, learn how to do it the right way and

chelate! When

your kids will feel better, you will too.

Do yourself a favor and forgive yourself for trusting the medical community.

You did not poison anybody!!

Valentina

January 27, 2006

You should not feel guilt. You are the victim.

Mark

>

> I have been having a problem with guilt lately and I wanted opinions

please?

> I feel in my heart that all three of my sons have autism, adhd and

> development delays because of the vaccinations they received with

the mercury and

> thermosol. How do I get past the guilt of poisoning my children

unknowingly so

> bad that they are damaged for life? I feel so bad especially with my

son that

> has severe nonverbal autism. My two younger sons are progressing

well and

> hopefully will adjust to life with their disorders and be ok..but I

feel so

> guilty about my oldest son, especially when I see kids his age doing

stuff he will

> never do...like drive, have relationships, graduate high school with a

> regular education diploma, get married, have kids..attend college,

go into the

> military whatever he wanted to with his life, simple stuff like go

bowling with

> friends.. that because I listened to my doctors, I gave him poison

and it

> hurt him for life. How do I get past the guilt? Thank you for any

advise or

> suggestions that you have!

> Hugs and Happiness,

> Sue..

>

> " Some people believe in destiny, some believe in faith, I believe that

> Happiness is something we create with both Faith and Destiny! "

>

January 28, 2006

Sue,

We all go through this but then we have to go beyond it. You did what you

thought was best at the time. So did all of us. Nowhere in our wildest

dreams did we imagine that a toxic poison was in those vaccines. So now the

best way to get past it is to grieve for a while (this took me several

years) and then use your energy to help get them better. This whole

situation stinks! Sometimes my husband and I just look at the last 25 years

and shake our heads because none of it had to happen.

I think we should all send the bills for our kid's treatments to the CEO of

Eli Lilly.

Barb

(whose son is 25 and whose other kids have almost all left the nest now

doing those " normal " things, while he gets left behind.)

[ ] Vaccination Guilt question??

>I have been having a problem with guilt lately and I wanted opinions

>please?

> I feel in my heart that all three of my sons have autism, adhd and

> development delays because of the vaccinations they received with the

> mercury and

> thermosol. How do I get past the guilt of poisoning my children

> unknowingly so

> bad that they are damaged for life? I feel so bad especially with my son

> that

> has severe nonverbal autism. My two younger sons are progressing well and

> hopefully will adjust to life with their disorders and be ok..but I feel

> so

> guilty about my oldest son, especially when I see kids his age doing stuff

> he will

> never do...like drive, have relationships, graduate high school with a

> regular education diploma, get married, have kids..attend college, go into

> the

> military whatever he wanted to with his life, simple stuff like go

> bowling with

> friends.. that because I listened to my doctors, I gave him poison and it

> hurt him for life. How do I get past the guilt? Thank you for any advise

> or

> suggestions that you have!

> Hugs and Happiness,

> Sue..

>

> " Some people believe in destiny, some believe in faith, I believe that

> Happiness is something we create with both Faith and Destiny! "

>

January 28, 2006

>>How do I get past the guilt of poisoning my children unknowingly so

> bad that they are damaged for life? I feel so bad especially with my

son that

> has severe nonverbal autism.

My #2 *had* that dx, severe nonverbal autism. Now he is verbal and no

longer qualifies as autistic.

It is not necessarily " damaged for life " .

I personally blame the doctor who gave my son HepB vax when he was 2

days old.

>>that because I listened to my doctors, I gave him poison and it

> hurt him for life. How do I get past the guilt?

Don't listen to doctors any more. No doctor has ever seen my son

since his dx at age 3-1/2. He will be 10 years old in a few months.

I stopped listening to doctors, and my son is nearly recovered, almost

finished with supplements, altho still delayed in language, so not yet

age-appropriate.

Dana

January 28, 2006

>>I am

> on my own. My family thinks I'm nuts. We can't afford all the lab

> work, the chelation treatments that require close monitoring are

> beyond our reach.

I have never taken my son to a doctor, everything I have done with him

has been OTC supplements. My family also thought I was nuts, until my

son started talking and reading and interacting. Now they are mostly

converted.

>>When I read

> all the posts by parents that are flying off to see Dr. Bradstreet,

> I am glad to see that someone is getting the help they need, but I

> also feel like the biggest failure on earth.

At first, because of his dx of " Kanner's autism " , no DAN or other

doctor would agree to accept my son as a patient. Now they will,

because I proved them wrong, that his dx does NOT automatically mean

he can't be helped. Now doctors are agreeing to accept Kanner kids.

You are NOT a failure because you don't have a doctor, or can't afford

one. In fact, your son just might be better off because of it. My

son no longer needs any diet or most supplements, and many people in

my local support group have been doing biomedical for more years than

I have, and their kids still need diets and many more supplements than

my son does.

Dana

January 28, 2006

---Hi Sue,

Yes, we have ALL gone through the guilt, after the denial of our

childrens' diagnosis...etc.

How old is your non-verbal son? My son is also non-

verbal " autistic " . will be 15 in March. Before I go on, I want

to say that you may email me privately if you wish, there just

aren't that many of us Moms with non-verbal kids. It is good to meet

another. Autism Is a whole different world, but .. " autism " without

speech is yet ANOTHER world beyond that! As was mentioned...you need

to get beyond the guilt to be the best mom, advocate, researcher,

teacher, and to be able to treat your child. I have learned that NO

ONE will do it for me, so I'd better get on with it! You can do it,

just look FORWARD...not back, the guilt/depression will only slow

you down. Your kids need your time, love and anything you can learn

about treatments. You are at what I believe to be one of the most

informative places you can be. I have learned more here than any

place else through the years. I have notbee online in awhile bc of

pending divorce and trying to make ends meet on my part time income,

but I used to be here EVERY day...and I will again

someday...Unfortunately my focus must be on income and not my son

for now. has a twin sister and an older sister and we have

learned to laugh alot of stuff off...it is the best medicine, and it

feels better than crying.

My faith in God has gotten me through many unbearable

days/nights/weeks/months/years. I could not do this without the

knowledge that my Lord is right there beside me...I am never alone

in this, neither are you.

Please feel free to email me, if nothing else I bet we could share

some pretty funny stories!

My prayers are with you! Lindy

email; reverseautism@...

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In , " jromkema " <jromkema@f...>

wrote:

>

> Sue,

>

> We all go through this but then we have to go beyond it. You did

what you

> thought was best at the time. So did all of us. Nowhere in our

wildest

> dreams did we imagine that a toxic poison was in those vaccines.

So now the

> best way to get past it is to grieve for a while (this took me

several

> years) and then use your energy to help get them better. This

whole

> situation stinks! Sometimes my husband and I just look at the

last 25 years

> and shake our heads because none of it had to happen.

>

> I think we should all send the bills for our kid's treatments to

the CEO of

> Eli Lilly.

>

> Barb

> (whose son is 25 and whose other kids have almost all left the

nest now

> doing those " normal " things, while he gets left behind.)

> [ ] Vaccination Guilt question??

>

> >I have been having a problem with guilt lately and I wanted

opinions

> >please?

> > I feel in my heart that all three of my sons have autism, adhd

and

> > development delays because of the vaccinations they received

with the

> > mercury and

> > thermosol. How do I get past the guilt of poisoning my children

> > unknowingly so

> > bad that they are damaged for life? I feel so bad especially

with my son

> > that

> > has severe nonverbal autism. My two younger sons are progressing

well and

> > hopefully will adjust to life with their disorders and be

ok..but I feel

> > so

> > guilty about my oldest son, especially when I see kids his age

doing stuff

> > he will

> > never do...like drive, have relationships, graduate high school

with a

> > regular education diploma, get married, have kids..attend

college, go into

> > the

> > military whatever he wanted to with his life, simple stuff like

go

> > bowling with

> > friends.. that because I listened to my doctors, I gave him

poison and it

> > hurt him for life. How do I get past the guilt? Thank you for

any advise

> > or

> > suggestions that you have!

> > Hugs and Happiness,

> > Sue..

> >

> > " Some people believe in destiny, some believe in faith, I

believe that

> > Happiness is something we create with both Faith and Destiny! "

> >

January 28, 2006

> I have never taken my son to a doctor, everything I have done with him

> has been OTC supplements. My family also thought I was nuts, until my

> son started talking and reading and interacting. Now they are mostly

> converted.

Seconding this wholeheartedly. Since I bailed on the pediatrician, my

son is so much healthier, even apart from autism issues. Just an

example -- at 3 he was on 2 different asthma meds and still needing

monthly trips to the ER. No medical person ever suggested that diet

modifications or getting rid of antimony would help. Thanks to biomed

he's not on any meds and has no asthma at all.

And yes, my family has come around too. They continue to be amazed at

the changes, and no longer blame my parenting .

Nell

January 28, 2006

It sounds as if you have also learned to listen to " mother's instinct " .

S S

<tt>

Honestly, I don't know if the guilt will ever go away for me. I felt uneasy

about the whole vaccine thing but was talked into it by doctors and friends.

What helps is helping others and doing my best to save other children. My

husband and I have three younger siblings who are just now getting married and

wanting to start families. I feel good that I prevented my second son from

getting it and I really hope I can prevent it in my brother's children. <BR>

<BR>

Saving other children is how I am coping. Hopefully when he is recovered he

can say he forgives me. <BR>

<BR>

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January 28, 2006

Sue, if t his were true, every child who has had all their recommended immunizations would have autism but the fact is they don't. We just can't really know the whys of their diagnosises always. All we can deal with is the here and now, and go from there in helping them the best way we can. That's the only thing that will be helpful to our children.

Karin

Vaccination Guilt question??

I have been having a problem with guilt lately and I wanted opinions please? I feel in my heart that all three of my sons have autism, adhd and development delays because of the vaccinations they received with the mercury and thermosol. How do I get past the guilt of poisoning my children unknowingly so bad that they are damaged for life? I feel so bad especially with my son that has severe nonverbal autism. My two younger sons are progressing well and hopefully will adjust to life with their disorders and be ok..but I feel so guilty about my oldest son, especially when I see kids his age doing stuff he will never do...like drive, have relationships, graduate high school with a regular education diploma, get married, have kids..attend college, go into the military whatever he wanted to with his life, simple stuff like go bowling with friends.. that because I listened to my doctors, I gave him poison and it hurt him for life. How do I get past the guilt? Thank you for any advise or suggestions that you have!

Hugs and Happiness,Sue.."Some people believe in destiny, some believe in faith, I believe that Happiness is something we create with both Faith and Destiny!"

January 29, 2006

I have to disagree with Karin regarding the fact that all kids who received all vaccinations would have autism, but I do have to agree with her that we need to deal with the here and now.

Sue, you trusted our government and physicians that they would not jeopardize the safety of their citizens, when the truth is, they have been using us as guinea pigs for many, many years. Unfortunately, some of us found out the hard way that we need to ask more questions when it comes to the health and welfare of our kids, as well as ourselves.

Back when your oldest child was born, the industry hadn't put the pieces together of the reactions some of these kids were having, so, we, as parents did what we thought was best. You didn't intentionally do this to your kids, and neither did I to mine, but now we have to try to take care of them the best that we can. You can't keep beating yourself up over a decision you made in the past. You did what millions of other parents did, only you and many of the rest of us were unfortunate enough to have children who couldn't excrete the poisons from their bodies fast enough to prevent neurological damage.

There are many degrees on the spectrum of autism because the longer the poison stays inside the body, the more damage is done. You had nothing to do with the damage done, the pharmaceutical companies new this stuff was poison when they put it in the shots. They were watching their bottom lines, not our kids' safety!!