Magic plan for today for Tanner

[Guest guest]

OK this morning I ran out early AM to the CVS and bought Epson salt,

Cold Eeze and I already have the acerola cherry chewable vitamin E.

I looked for the glutathione cream but figured since wrote it's a

prescription I wouldn't find it and the two HS looking kids working

at the CVS had not a clue- the pharmacy wasn't open yet. So...I

bought the capsules. When I got home I cut 2 of the 500mg caps open and

mixed it into Vaseline and Tanner let me rub it on his tummy and

back. I didn't put too much on him. I hope I don't have to do this

long because there was white powder that spilled out and it was so

fine it went everywhere -then again I was rushing. He has a pocket

full of cold eeze made with zinc and 2 chewable vitamin C which I

told him to take every few hours. I had some chicken soup to give

him for lunch but his class is having pizza day today (they do

rewards for reading -one of the book's Tanner is reading is Twilight

and said the book is excellent)

This is my plan for today. OK Tanner's not being teased or anything

about his speech but nobody understands why he was so quiet and now

why it's harder for him to talk. These kids all know him, some

are on his basketball team.

I'm going to say " Radcliffe has a secret he just let everyone

know. Does anyone know who is? Does anyone know his

secret? " I figure then we'll talk about how just let everyone

know about his dyspraxia and how this condition affects everyone in a

slightly different way but it can affect things like speech...and

in 's case even though he can fight off he who shall not be

named -he has trouble tying his shoes due to his dyspraxia.

So when I told Tanner I'm going to let the class know about

right before he left for school Tanner said " and that Olympic swimmer

too " Tanner is so convinced that Mike Phelps is just like him

because of his speech -not even because of all the articles like the

NY Times Klutz on land

"

" I don't remember what it was, but I have scars all over my body just

literally from falling all over the place, " he said Friday at the

national short-course championships.

Phelps, a six-time Olympic gold medalist, considers himself to be a

klutz.

" You should just keep me in the pool, put a bed in the pool, give me

food in the pool so I never get hurt, " he said. " I'm bad on land. "

Phelps's clumsiness dates to his childhood in Baltimore. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/sports/othersports/02phelps.html?ref=sports

4) At school Phelps was bullied because of his big ears and lisp.

Who's having the last laugh now?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/2008/08/13/michael-phelps-top-10-the-man-behind-th\

e-olympic-gold-medals-115875-20696010/

Before Tanner left for school he gave me a huge hug and then he held

my hand and didn't let go as he walked away from me until both are

arms were outstretched to where we couldn't hold hand anymore. We

both laughed and he left for school. I know today is going to be a

better day. I guess the silver lining is that I get to let Tanner's

friends know that Tanner is in good company with -and that

even if Mike Phelps isn't dyspraxic he did have a speech issue as a

child and that didn't stop him from growing up to be the world's

greatest Olympic swimmer (athlete?) ever. I know he is Tanner's hero.

Back in kindergarten all I had was Scooby Doo -now 2 cool people!

But I doubt they have any Phelps Halloween treats -but I just may be

able to find some Harry Potter treats at Target. That's the store

because I think that now I am on target thanks to -and thanks

to all of you that have sent me warm wishes and who sent prayers for

Tanner! I really mean it -means so much and I feel much better today

to fight this and help him get past this where we won't look back!

=====

[Guest guest]

Your a great Mom !!! My prayers are with Tanner on a speedy recovery. He is

a lucky boy to have you as his Mom. My granddaughter got in the SPEAK Focus

Group and her SPEAK pills arrived 2 days ago and I told my daughter to flush the

stuff if she can't get her $8.00 postage back.I would feel horrible if something

happen to that little girl, since I am the one that told my daughter, who is a

teacher to sign up to get in the group... Thanks to all in this group for your

updates and my prayers to all that were hurt by this stuff. Thanks again.

Nana

[ ] Magic plan for today for Tanner

OK this morning I ran out early AM to the CVS and bought Epson salt,

Cold Eeze and I already have the acerola cherry chewable vitamin E.

I looked for the glutathione cream but figured since wrote it's a

prescription I wouldn't find it and the two HS looking kids working

at the CVS had not a clue- the pharmacy wasn't open yet. So...I

bought the capsules. When I got home I cut 2 of the 500mg caps open and

mixed it into Vaseline and Tanner let me rub it on his tummy and

back. I didn't put too much on him. I hope I don't have to do this

long because there was white powder that spilled out and it was so

fine it went everywhere -then again I was rushing. He has a pocket

full of cold eeze made with zinc and 2 chewable vitamin C which I

told him to take every few hours. I had some chicken soup to give

him for lunch but his class is having pizza day today (they do

rewards for reading -one of the book's Tanner is reading is Twilight

and said the book is excellent)

This is my plan for today. OK Tanner's not being teased or anything

about his speech but nobody understands why he was so quiet and now

why it's harder for him to talk. These kids all know him, some

are on his basketball team.

I'm going to say " Radcliffe has a secret he just let everyone

know. Does anyone know who is? Does anyone know his

secret? " I figure then we'll talk about how just let everyone

know about his dyspraxia and how this condition affects everyone in a

slightly different way but it can affect things like speech...and

in 's case even though he can fight off he who shall not be

named -he has trouble tying his shoes due to his dyspraxia.

So when I told Tanner I'm going to let the class know about

right before he left for school Tanner said " and that Olympic swimmer

too " Tanner is so convinced that Mike Phelps is just like him

because of his speech -not even because of all the articles like the

NY Times Klutz on land

"

" I don't remember what it was, but I have scars all over my body just

literally from falling all over the place, " he said Friday at the

national short-course championships.

Phelps, a six-time Olympic gold medalist, considers himself to be a

klutz.

" You should just keep me in the pool, put a bed in the pool, give me

food in the pool so I never get hurt, " he said. " I'm bad on land. "

Phelps's clumsiness dates to his childhood in Baltimore. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/sports/othersports/02phelps.html?ref=sports

4) At school Phelps was bullied because of his big ears and lisp.

Who's having the last laugh now?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/2008/08/13/michael-phelps-top-10-the-man-behind-th\

e-olympic-gold-medals-115875-20696010/

Before Tanner left for school he gave me a huge hug and then he held

my hand and didn't let go as he walked away from me until both are

arms were outstretched to where we couldn't hold hand anymore. We

both laughed and he left for school. I know today is going to be a

better day. I guess the silver lining is that I get to let Tanner's

friends know that Tanner is in good company with -and that

even if Mike Phelps isn't dyspraxic he did have a speech issue as a

child and that didn't stop him from growing up to be the world's

greatest Olympic swimmer (athlete?) ever. I know he is Tanner's hero.

Back in kindergarten all I had was Scooby Doo -now 2 cool people!

But I doubt they have any Phelps Halloween treats -but I just may be

able to find some Harry Potter treats at Target. That's the store

because I think that now I am on target thanks to -and thanks

to all of you that have sent me warm wishes and who sent prayers for

Tanner! I really mean it -means so much and I feel much better today

to fight this and help him get past this where we won't look back!

=====

[Guest guest]

Of course it's alarming to read about a few children having negative

reactions to SPEAK but my son is improving on SPEAK so I wouldn't be

so quick to flush your supplements. Perhaps hang onto them until the

Focus Group is over and you can read the full report. I would be

interested to know the full picture.

>

> Your a great Mom !!! My prayers are with Tanner on a speedy

recovery. He is a lucky boy to have you as his Mom. My granddaughter

got in the SPEAK Focus Group and her SPEAK pills arrived 2 days ago

and I told my daughter to flush the stuff if she can't get her $8.00

postage back.I would feel horrible if something happen to that little

girl, since I am the one that told my daughter, who is a teacher to

sign up to get in the group... Thanks to all in this group for your

updates and my prayers to all that were hurt by this stuff. Thanks

again.

> Nana

> [ ] Magic plan for today for Tanner

>

>

> OK this morning I ran out early AM to the CVS and bought Epson

salt,

> Cold Eeze and I already have the acerola cherry chewable vitamin

E.

> I looked for the glutathione cream but figured since

wrote it's a

> prescription I wouldn't find it and the two HS looking kids

working

> at the CVS had not a clue- the pharmacy wasn't open yet. So...I

> bought the capsules. When I got home I cut 2 of the 500mg caps

open and

> mixed it into Vaseline and Tanner let me rub it on his tummy and

> back. I didn't put too much on him. I hope I don't have to do

this

> long because there was white powder that spilled out and it was

so

> fine it went everywhere -then again I was rushing. He has a

pocket

> full of cold eeze made with zinc and 2 chewable vitamin C which I

> told him to take every few hours. I had some chicken soup to give

> him for lunch but his class is having pizza day today (they do

> rewards for reading -one of the book's Tanner is reading is

Twilight

> and said the book is excellent)

>

> This is my plan for today. OK Tanner's not being teased or

anything

> about his speech but nobody understands why he was so quiet and

now

> why it's harder for him to talk. These kids all know him, some

> are on his basketball team.

>

> I'm going to say " Radcliffe has a secret he just let

everyone

> know. Does anyone know who is? Does anyone know his

> secret? " I figure then we'll talk about how just let

everyone

> know about his dyspraxia and how this condition affects everyone

in a

> slightly different way but it can affect things like speech...and

> in 's case even though he can fight off he who shall not be

> named -he has trouble tying his shoes due to his dyspraxia.

>

> So when I told Tanner I'm going to let the class know about

> right before he left for school Tanner said " and that Olympic

swimmer

> too " Tanner is so convinced that Mike Phelps is just like him

> because of his speech -not even because of all the articles like

the

> NY Times Klutz on land

> "

> " I don't remember what it was, but I have scars all over my body

just

> literally from falling all over the place, " he said Friday at the

> national short-course championships.

>

> Phelps, a six-time Olympic gold medalist, considers himself to be

a

> klutz.

>

> " You should just keep me in the pool, put a bed in the pool, give

me

> food in the pool so I never get hurt, " he said. " I'm bad on land. "

>

> Phelps's clumsiness dates to his childhood in Baltimore. "

>

>

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/sports/othersports/02phelps.html?

ref=sports

>

> 4) At school Phelps was bullied because of his big ears and lisp.

> Who's having the last laugh now?

> http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/2008/08/13/michael-phelps-top-10-

the-man-behind-the-olympic-gold-medals-115875-20696010/

>

> Before Tanner left for school he gave me a huge hug and then he

held

> my hand and didn't let go as he walked away from me until both

are

> arms were outstretched to where we couldn't hold hand anymore. We

> both laughed and he left for school. I know today is going to be

a

> better day. I guess the silver lining is that I get to let

Tanner's

> friends know that Tanner is in good company with -and that

> even if Mike Phelps isn't dyspraxic he did have a speech issue as

a

> child and that didn't stop him from growing up to be the world's

> greatest Olympic swimmer (athlete?) ever. I know he is Tanner's

hero.

>

> Back in kindergarten all I had was Scooby Doo -now 2 cool people!

>

> But I doubt they have any Phelps Halloween treats -but I just may

be

> able to find some Harry Potter treats at Target. That's the store

> because I think that now I am on target thanks to -and

thanks

> to all of you that have sent me warm wishes and who sent prayers

for

> Tanner! I really mean it -means so much and I feel much better

today

> to fight this and help him get past this where we won't look back!

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

LOL I told you before that I am also convinced that Phelps is an unDxed

Dyspraxic!!!

Tell your son I'm right there with him

bek

In a message dated 10/3/2008 9:13:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

kiddietalk@... writes:

So when I told Tanner I'm going to let the class know about

right before he left for school Tanner said " and that Olympic swimmer

too " Tanner is so convinced that Mike Phelps is just like him

because of his speech -not even because of all the articles like the

NY Times Klutz on land

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Is " activated charcoal " something similar to the product called NCD?

Becky

In a message dated 10/3/2008 2:24:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, missy@h

andleys.net writes:

- Have you ever considered giving Activated Charcoal?

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(http://www.enzymestuff.com/activatedcharcoal.htm)

You can supplement glutathione by giving ESSENTIAL GSH available

through Wellness Pharmacy. It's a naturally occuring detoxifier n

the body and many many kids on the autism spectrum are low in this

(obvious by their toxic loads) so my son takes this daily. It's a

stinky liquid so I hide it in grape juice/medicine dropper. It's not

a prescription. Just a suggestion..a

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[Guest guest]

Go getem . You are preserving your child's self-esteem. Nothing

more precious than that.

Go Tanner!

[Guest guest]

,

Has Tanner entered his puberty stage of his life yet? My son is 12

and has seen his cardiologist for his heart murmur since he was 2.

This year the doc told me the next 4 years I will see a rapid growth

vertically and when he gets to be 16 there will be a horizontal growth

through the chest and shoulder areas until 21. For this reason, my

son's EKG and ecocardiogram showed an enlargement for the first time

and the doc expected it and told me not to worry, only to communicate

with the doc if I see lack of energy or a different kid.

The brain is another area of growth during puberty.

my two cents,

Joanne

[Guest guest]

You are doing a great job ! You are growing that boy in more ways

than in just his speech..but in love, trust, mercy to others and in

courage.

great job mama! and go get em Tanner! you are a fighter! a real hero!

Krissy

>

> Go getem . You are preserving your child's self-esteem. Nothing

> more precious than that.

>

> Go Tanner!

>

[Guest guest]

- Have you ever considered giving Activated Charcoal?

http://www.enzymestuff.com/activatedcharcoal.htm

You can supplement glutathione by giving ESSENTIAL GSH available

through Wellness Pharmacy. It's a naturally occuring detoxifier n

the body and many many kids on the autism spectrum are low in this

(obvious by their toxic loads) so my son takes this daily. It's a

stinky liquid so I hide it in grape juice/medicine dropper. It's not

a prescription. Just a suggestion...

>

> OK this morning I ran out early AM to the CVS and bought Epson salt,

> Cold Eeze and I already have the acerola cherry chewable vitamin E.

> I looked for the glutathione cream but figured since wrote

it's a

> prescription I wouldn't find it and the two HS looking kids working

> at the CVS had not a clue- the pharmacy wasn't open yet. So...I

> bought the capsules. When I got home I cut 2 of the 500mg caps

open and

> mixed it into Vaseline and Tanner let me rub it on his tummy and

> back. I didn't put too much on him. I hope I don't have to do this

> long because there was white powder that spilled out and it was so

> fine it went everywhere -then again I was rushing. He has a pocket

> full of cold eeze made with zinc and 2 chewable vitamin C which I

> told him to take every few hours. I had some chicken soup to give

> him for lunch but his class is having pizza day today (they do

> rewards for reading -one of the book's Tanner is reading is Twilight

> and said the book is excellent)

>

> This is my plan for today. OK Tanner's not being teased or anything

> about his speech but nobody understands why he was so quiet and now

> why it's harder for him to talk. These kids all know him, some

> are on his basketball team.

>

> I'm going to say " Radcliffe has a secret he just let everyone

> know. Does anyone know who is? Does anyone know his

> secret? " I figure then we'll talk about how just let

everyone

> know about his dyspraxia and how this condition affects everyone in

a

> slightly different way but it can affect things like speech...and

> in 's case even though he can fight off he who shall not be

> named -he has trouble tying his shoes due to his dyspraxia.

>

> So when I told Tanner I'm going to let the class know about

> right before he left for school Tanner said " and that Olympic

swimmer

> too " Tanner is so convinced that Mike Phelps is just like him

> because of his speech -not even because of all the articles like the

> NY Times Klutz on land

> "

> " I don't remember what it was, but I have scars all over my body

just

> literally from falling all over the place, " he said Friday at the

> national short-course championships.

>

> Phelps, a six-time Olympic gold medalist, considers himself to be a

> klutz.

>

> " You should just keep me in the pool, put a bed in the pool, give me

> food in the pool so I never get hurt, " he said. " I'm bad on land. "

>

> Phelps's clumsiness dates to his childhood in Baltimore. "

>

> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/sports/othersports/02phelps.html?

ref=sports

>

> 4) At school Phelps was bullied because of his big ears and lisp.

> Who's having the last laugh now?

> http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/2008/08/13/michael-phelps-top-10-the-

man-behind-the-olympic-gold-medals-115875-20696010/

>

> Before Tanner left for school he gave me a huge hug and then he held

> my hand and didn't let go as he walked away from me until both are

> arms were outstretched to where we couldn't hold hand anymore. We

> both laughed and he left for school. I know today is going to be a

> better day. I guess the silver lining is that I get to let Tanner's

> friends know that Tanner is in good company with -and that

> even if Mike Phelps isn't dyspraxic he did have a speech issue as a

> child and that didn't stop him from growing up to be the world's

> greatest Olympic swimmer (athlete?) ever. I know he is Tanner's

hero.

>

> Back in kindergarten all I had was Scooby Doo -now 2 cool people!

>

> But I doubt they have any Phelps Halloween treats -but I just may be

> able to find some Harry Potter treats at Target. That's the store

> because I think that now I am on target thanks to -and thanks

> to all of you that have sent me warm wishes and who sent prayers for

> Tanner! I really mean it -means so much and I feel much better

today

> to fight this and help him get past this where we won't look back!

>

>

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

I agree. My son is doing fine on them. Had his best day of school

ever yesterday and he's on 4 capsules/day for 1 1/2 weeks.

> >

> > Your a great Mom !!! My prayers are with Tanner on a speedy

> recovery. He is a lucky boy to have you as his Mom. My

granddaughter

> got in the SPEAK Focus Group and her SPEAK pills arrived 2 days ago

> and I told my daughter to flush the stuff if she can't get her

$8.00

> postage back.I would feel horrible if something happen to that

little

> girl, since I am the one that told my daughter, who is a teacher to

> sign up to get in the group... Thanks to all in this group for your

> updates and my prayers to all that were hurt by this stuff. Thanks

> again.

> > Nana

> > [ ] Magic plan for today for Tanner

> >

> >

> > OK this morning I ran out early AM to the CVS and bought Epson

> salt,

> > Cold Eeze and I already have the acerola cherry chewable

vitamin

> E.

> > I looked for the glutathione cream but figured since

> wrote it's a

> > prescription I wouldn't find it and the two HS looking kids

> working

> > at the CVS had not a clue- the pharmacy wasn't open yet. So...I

> > bought the capsules. When I got home I cut 2 of the 500mg caps

> open and

> > mixed it into Vaseline and Tanner let me rub it on his tummy

and

> > back. I didn't put too much on him. I hope I don't have to do

> this

> > long because there was white powder that spilled out and it was

> so

> > fine it went everywhere -then again I was rushing. He has a

> pocket

> > full of cold eeze made with zinc and 2 chewable vitamin C which

I

> > told him to take every few hours. I had some chicken soup to

give

> > him for lunch but his class is having pizza day today (they do

> > rewards for reading -one of the book's Tanner is reading is

> Twilight

> > and said the book is excellent)

> >

> > This is my plan for today. OK Tanner's not being teased or

> anything

> > about his speech but nobody understands why he was so quiet and

> now

> > why it's harder for him to talk. These kids all know him, some

> > are on his basketball team.

> >

> > I'm going to say " Radcliffe has a secret he just let

> everyone

> > know. Does anyone know who is? Does anyone know his

> > secret? " I figure then we'll talk about how just let

> everyone

> > know about his dyspraxia and how this condition affects

everyone

> in a

> > slightly different way but it can affect things like

speech...and

> > in 's case even though he can fight off he who shall not

be

> > named -he has trouble tying his shoes due to his dyspraxia.

> >

> > So when I told Tanner I'm going to let the class know about

>

> > right before he left for school Tanner said " and that Olympic

> swimmer

> > too " Tanner is so convinced that Mike Phelps is just like him

> > because of his speech -not even because of all the articles

like

> the

> > NY Times Klutz on land

> > "

> > " I don't remember what it was, but I have scars all over my

body

> just

> > literally from falling all over the place, " he said Friday at

the

> > national short-course championships.

> >

> > Phelps, a six-time Olympic gold medalist, considers himself to

be

> a

> > klutz.

> >

> > " You should just keep me in the pool, put a bed in the pool,

give

> me

> > food in the pool so I never get hurt, " he said. " I'm bad on

land. "

> >

> > Phelps's clumsiness dates to his childhood in Baltimore. "

> >

> >

> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/sports/othersports/02phelps.html?

> ref=sports

> >

> > 4) At school Phelps was bullied because of his big ears and

lisp.

> > Who's having the last laugh now?

> > http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/2008/08/13/michael-phelps-top-10-

> the-man-behind-the-olympic-gold-medals-115875-20696010/

> >

> > Before Tanner left for school he gave me a huge hug and then he

> held

> > my hand and didn't let go as he walked away from me until both

> are

> > arms were outstretched to where we couldn't hold hand anymore.

We

> > both laughed and he left for school. I know today is going to

be

> a

> > better day. I guess the silver lining is that I get to let

> Tanner's

> > friends know that Tanner is in good company with -and

that

> > even if Mike Phelps isn't dyspraxic he did have a speech issue

as

> a

> > child and that didn't stop him from growing up to be the

world's

> > greatest Olympic swimmer (athlete?) ever. I know he is Tanner's

> hero.

> >

> > Back in kindergarten all I had was Scooby Doo -now 2 cool

people!

> >

> > But I doubt they have any Phelps Halloween treats -but I just

may

> be

> > able to find some Harry Potter treats at Target. That's the

store

> > because I think that now I am on target thanks to -and

> thanks

> > to all of you that have sent me warm wishes and who sent

prayers

> for

> > Tanner! I really mean it -means so much and I feel much better

> today

> > to fight this and help him get past this where we won't look

back!

> >

> > =====

> >

[Guest guest]

,

I would skip the glutathione altogether since it really can kick up yeast in a

child.... unless you are already on a good anti-yeast program. You do ThreeLac,

don't you?

But glutathione is a tough one for the body to absorb. You can find it

naturally in asparagus though!

Do the Epsom Salts baths, they are great and do some freshly squeezed orange

juice. Keep it simple; and keep it clean. Over the weekend, eat really cleanly

(no junk food at all!)

Simple is best.... one curative item at a time.... then you will know what is

working and what may be causing trouble.....

Epsom Salts for bathtime at night.... lots of freshly distilled water....

Janice

[ ] Magic plan for today for Tanner

OK this morning I ran out early AM to the CVS and bought Epson salt,

Cold Eeze and I already have the acerola cherry chewable vitamin E.

I looked for the glutathione cream but figured since wrote it's a

prescription I wouldn't find it and the two HS looking kids working

at the CVS had not a clue- the pharmacy wasn't open yet. So...I

bought the capsules. When I got home I cut 2 of the 500mg caps open and

mixed it into Vaseline and Tanner let me rub it on his tummy and

back. I didn't put too much on him. I hope I don't have to do this

long because there was white powder that spilled out and it was so

fine it went everywhere -then again I was rushing. He has a pocket

full of cold eeze made with zinc and 2 chewable vitamin C which I

told him to take every few hours. I had some chicken soup to give

him for lunch but his class is having pizza day today (they do

rewards for reading -one of the book's Tanner is reading is Twilight

and said the book is excellent)

This is my plan for today. OK Tanner's not being teased or anything

about his speech but nobody understands why he was so quiet and now

why it's harder for him to talk. These kids all know him, some

are on his basketball team.

I'm going to say " Radcliffe has a secret he just let everyone

know. Does anyone know who is? Does anyone know his

secret? " I figure then we'll talk about how just let everyone

know about his dyspraxia and how this condition affects everyone in a

slightly different way but it can affect things like speech...and

in 's case even though he can fight off he who shall not be

named -he has trouble tying his shoes due to his dyspraxia.

So when I told Tanner I'm going to let the class know about

right before he left for school Tanner said " and that Olympic swimmer

too " Tanner is so convinced that Mike Phelps is just like him

because of his speech -not even because of all the articles like the

NY Times Klutz on land

"

" I don't remember what it was, but I have scars all over my body just

literally from falling all over the place, " he said Friday at the

national short-course championships.

Phelps, a six-time Olympic gold medalist, considers himself to be a

klutz.

" You should just keep me in the pool, put a bed in the pool, give me

food in the pool so I never get hurt, " he said. " I'm bad on land. "

Phelps's clumsiness dates to his childhood in Baltimore. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/sports/othersports/02phelps.html?ref=sports

4) At school Phelps was bullied because of his big ears and lisp.

Who's having the last laugh now?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/2008/08/13/michael-phelps-top-10-the-man-behind-th\

e-olympic-gold-medals-115875-20696010/

Before Tanner left for school he gave me a huge hug and then he held

my hand and didn't let go as he walked away from me until both are

arms were outstretched to where we couldn't hold hand anymore. We

both laughed and he left for school. I know today is going to be a

better day. I guess the silver lining is that I get to let Tanner's

friends know that Tanner is in good company with -and that

even if Mike Phelps isn't dyspraxic he did have a speech issue as a

child and that didn't stop him from growing up to be the world's

greatest Olympic swimmer (athlete?) ever. I know he is Tanner's hero.

Back in kindergarten all I had was Scooby Doo -now 2 cool people!

But I doubt they have any Phelps Halloween treats -but I just may be

able to find some Harry Potter treats at Target. That's the store

because I think that now I am on target thanks to -and thanks

to all of you that have sent me warm wishes and who sent prayers for

Tanner! I really mean it -means so much and I feel much better today

to fight this and help him get past this where we won't look back!

=====

[Guest guest]

NO! Activated charcoal can " supposedly " mop up toxins once they are

released into the body. Something like that... I'm no expert but I

know a lot of people use this when they are doing anti-yeast

protocols on their children to help them clean up the released

toxins. Somehow, it absorbs.

>

> Is " activated charcoal " something similar to the product called

NCD?

>

> Becky

>

>

> In a message dated 10/3/2008 2:24:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

missy@h

> andleys.net writes:

>

> - Have you ever considered giving Activated Charcoal?

> _http://www.enzymesthttp://www.enzymhttp://wwwhtt_

> (http://www.enzymestuff.com/activatedcharcoal.htm)

>

> You can supplement glutathione by giving ESSENTIAL GSH available

> through Wellness Pharmacy. It's a naturally occuring detoxifier n

> the body and many many kids on the autism spectrum are low in this

> (obvious by their toxic loads) so my son takes this daily. It's a

> stinky liquid so I hide it in grape juice/medicine dropper. It's

not

> a prescription. Just a suggestion..a

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

No. Activated charcoal is what it sounds like.....used in hospitals by

medical personell to empty stomach contents. Takes out vitamins and the

rest, all of them, so not something you just do.

Natural cellular defense has cilantro in it, a natural chelator with an

unknown half-life. Again, not something you just do.

[Guest guest]

That's why I asked though-- because NCD is also something that " mops up "

toxins and you take it for de-tox

bek

In a message dated 10/3/2008 6:13:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

missy@... writes:

NO! Activated charcoal can " supposedly " mop up toxins once they are

released into the body. Something like that... I'm no expert but I

know a lot of people use this when they are doing anti-yeast

protocols on their children to help them clean up the released

toxins. Somehow, it absorbs.

>

> Is " activated charcoal " something similar to the product called

NCD?

>

> Becky

>

>

> In a message dated 10/3/2008 2:24:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

missy@h

> andleys.net writes:

>

> - Have you ever considered giving Activated Charcoal?

> __http://www.enzymesthttp://www.http://wwwhttp://ww_

(http://www.enzymesthttp//www.enzymhttp://wwwhtt_)

> (_http://www.enzymesthttp://www.enzymhttp://wwwhtt_

(http://www.enzymestuff.com/activatedcharcoal.htm) )

>

> You can supplement glutathione by giving ESSENTIAL GSH available

> through Wellness Pharmacy. It's a naturally occuring detoxifier n

> the body and many many kids on the autism spectrum are low in this

> (obvious by their toxic loads) so my son takes this daily. It's a

> stinky liquid so I hide it in grape juice/medicine dropper. It's

not

> a prescription. Just a suggestion..

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hmmm Cilantro??? I don't think the product my sister sells has this in it

Bek

In a message dated 10/3/2008 7:54:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

lizlaw@... writes:

No. Activated charcoal is what it sounds like.....used in hospitals by

medical personell to empty stomach contents. Takes out vitamins and the

rest, all of them, so not something you just do.

Natural cellular defense has cilantro in it, a natural chelator with an

unknown half-life. Again, not something you just do.

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[Guest guest]

NCD does NOT have cilantro in it. It is simply zeolite, a naturally

occurring mineral that is supposed to rid the body of toxins. We used

it hoping it would chelate our son but saw no results from it.

www.waiora.com

Cilantro is one of the ingredients in NDF+. Another natural product

that's supposed to help eliminate toxins. www.bioray2000.com

Maybe you are confusing the two?

>

> Hmmm Cilantro??? I don't think the product my sister sells has

this in it

>

> Bek

>

>

> In a message dated 10/3/2008 7:54:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> lizlaw@... writes:

>

> No. Activated charcoal is what it sounds like.....used in

hospitals by

> medical personell to empty stomach contents. Takes out vitamins

and the

> rest, all of them, so not something you just do.

>

> Natural cellular defense has cilantro in it, a natural chelator

with an

> unknown half-life. Again, not something you just do.

>

>

>

>

>

> **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your

destination.

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry about that. Got my acronyms wrong

> >

> > Hmmm Cilantro??? I don't think the product my sister sells has

> this in it

> >

> > Bek

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 10/3/2008 7:54:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > lizlaw@ writes:

> >

> > No. Activated charcoal is what it sounds like.....used in

> hospitals by

> > medical personell to empty stomach contents. Takes out vitamins

> and the

> > rest, all of them, so not something you just do.

> >

> > Natural cellular defense has cilantro in it, a natural chelator

> with an

> > unknown half-life. Again, not something you just do.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> destination.

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> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

You might not always *SEE* the results from a detox, but don't be fooled

into thinking that it didn't necessarily work for him. Some kids you'll see a

visible change for them-- which we did with Asa at one point, then nothing,

but overall I know it was effective.

There is a new product out (again, all natural) that waiora has out now that

addresses the cellular structure and healing from that-- it's worth a shot

Bek

In a message dated 10/5/2008 4:57:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

missy@... writes:

NCD does NOT have cilantro in it. It is simply zeolite, a naturally

occurring mineral that is supposed to rid the body of toxins. We used

it hoping it would chelate our son but saw no results from it.

[Guest guest]

--

I'll check with my sister as to what it's called-- it's made from a

mushroom tho-- if that helps.

They recommend to first detox (which is what you did with the NCD already)

and then do the second product which works with the cell structure

I'll check with her tho

bek

In a message dated 10/6/2008 1:20:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

missy@... writes:

We had him on the NCD for almost six months with no gains. It works

for some, not for others. Do you know the name of the new product?

All I see on Waiora's website for detox is the NCD and an herbal tea.

>

> You might not always *SEE* the results from a detox, but don't be

fooled

> into thinking that it didn't necessarily work for him.

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[Guest guest]

We had him on the NCD for almost six months with no gains. It works

for some, not for others. Do you know the name of the new product?

All I see on Waiora's website for detox is the NCD and an herbal tea.

>

> You might not always *SEE* the results from a detox, but don't be

fooled

> into thinking that it didn't necessarily work for him.

[Guest guest]

Hey - I've been checking for updates on Tanner every day (unless

they're just not in this thread). Has he progressed any in the past

few days? Hope things are going well.

>

> OK this morning I ran out early AM to the CVS and bought Epson salt,

> Cold Eeze and I already have the acerola cherry chewable vitamin E.

> I looked for the glutathione cream but figured since wrote

it's a

> prescription I wouldn't find it and the two HS looking kids working

> at the CVS had not a clue- the pharmacy wasn't open yet. So...I

> bought the capsules. When I got home I cut 2 of the 500mg caps

open and

> mixed it into Vaseline and Tanner let me rub it on his tummy and

> back. I didn't put too much on him. I hope I don't have to do this

> long because there was white powder that spilled out and it was so

> fine it went everywhere -then again I was rushing. He has a pocket

> full of cold eeze made with zinc and 2 chewable vitamin C which I

> told him to take every few hours. I had some chicken soup to give

> him for lunch but his class is having pizza day today (they do

> rewards for reading -one of the book's Tanner is reading is Twilight

> and said the book is excellent)

>

> This is my plan for today. OK Tanner's not being teased or anything

> about his speech but nobody understands why he was so quiet and now

> why it's harder for him to talk. These kids all know him, some

> are on his basketball team.

>

> I'm going to say " Radcliffe has a secret he just let everyone

> know. Does anyone know who is? Does anyone know his

> secret? " I figure then we'll talk about how just let

everyone

> know about his dyspraxia and how this condition affects everyone in

a

> slightly different way but it can affect things like speech...and

> in 's case even though he can fight off he who shall not be

> named -he has trouble tying his shoes due to his dyspraxia.

>

> So when I told Tanner I'm going to let the class know about

> right before he left for school Tanner said " and that Olympic

swimmer

> too " Tanner is so convinced that Mike Phelps is just like him

> because of his speech -not even because of all the articles like the

> NY Times Klutz on land

> "

> " I don't remember what it was, but I have scars all over my body

just

> literally from falling all over the place, " he said Friday at the

> national short-course championships.

>

> Phelps, a six-time Olympic gold medalist, considers himself to be a

> klutz.

>

> " You should just keep me in the pool, put a bed in the pool, give me

> food in the pool so I never get hurt, " he said. " I'm bad on land. "

>

> Phelps's clumsiness dates to his childhood in Baltimore. "

>

> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/sports/othersports/02phelps.html?

ref=sports

>

> 4) At school Phelps was bullied because of his big ears and lisp.

> Who's having the last laugh now?

> http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/2008/08/13/michael-phelps-top-10-the-

man-behind-the-olympic-gold-medals-115875-20696010/

>

> Before Tanner left for school he gave me a huge hug and then he held

> my hand and didn't let go as he walked away from me until both are

> arms were outstretched to where we couldn't hold hand anymore. We

> both laughed and he left for school. I know today is going to be a

> better day. I guess the silver lining is that I get to let Tanner's

> friends know that Tanner is in good company with -and that

> even if Mike Phelps isn't dyspraxic he did have a speech issue as a

> child and that didn't stop him from growing up to be the world's

> greatest Olympic swimmer (athlete?) ever. I know he is Tanner's

hero.

>

> Back in kindergarten all I had was Scooby Doo -now 2 cool people!

>

> But I doubt they have any Phelps Halloween treats -but I just may be

> able to find some Harry Potter treats at Target. That's the store

> because I think that now I am on target thanks to -and thanks

> to all of you that have sent me warm wishes and who sent prayers for

> Tanner! I really mean it -means so much and I feel much better

today

> to fight this and help him get past this where we won't look back!

>

>

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

Well today is the day I go to Tanner's school. So I'm looking for

articles to use in the presentation with the head of school and I

find something disgusting.

For those that don't recall or that are new, Tanner speech regressed

dramatically due to a supplement that had mega levels of vitamins in

it (long story) and in the past whenever his speech regressed due to

the wrong formula of fish oils -all it took was a day to get things

back to normal. Note to self- do not play around with fat soluble

vitamins. Now I'm stuck in a situation like I have not been in

since Tanner was first diagnosed. Who do I ask? Like anyone really

knows.

Since his speech is gradually getting better I'm hoping that's a good

thing - but he's still not back to where he was just a few weeks ago

yet. The school thinks I put him on a new medication and his friends

and teachers don't know why he was so suddenly quiet and now why his

speech regressed and Tanner wanted me to come in and explain.

I found out not just from Tanner but from his friends that he is not

being teased -but nobody understands why this is going on and it's a

bit too complicated for Tanner to explain (which is why the school

thinks it is a new medication -which neither of my boys have ever

been on any medication) Yes I did talk to some of the teachers -but

the head of school thought it best for me to come in and address the

entire school.

Yesterday Tanner said to me that when he talks now even though nobody

makes fun of him - he thinks that they are thinking " I am retarded or

something because of the way I'm talking now " Clearly even if others

are not bothered by his speech it bothers Tanner. We talked about

how well he does in school and how many friends he has. And of

course we talked about Radcliffe and Phelps and

bringing up always seems to help as Tanner is a HUGE Phelps

fan.

I found articles about Radcliffe which were all great. Many

to choose from. Then I looked for something about Phelps

because of course he too is someone that is a great success that also

has has a lisp (and on land appears to have strong signs of dyspraxia

too) and I found this article of how he was teased as a child due to

his large ears and his lisp

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/editors-choice/2008/08/14/profile-how-michael-\

phelps-went-from-bullied-kid-with-big-ears-to-the-world-s-most-successful-olympi\

an-86908-20696762/

Teased as a child but he's a success today. So like the articles

about I didn't expect to read this posted just one month ago:

" Is Phelps slightly retarded?

I know I'm not alone in this. He appears a bit " off " , like

he's ...you know - " special " .

He pronounces his last name as " Phelpth " and says he's a " thwimmer " .

Just wondering if anyone out there knew what's really goin' on?

1 month ago "

I don't know what is worse. The question or the majority of the

answers! I mean this is a guy that is an all time hero, one that

clearly is the best swimmer the world has ever known and who has done

interviews and who clearly isn't " slightly retarded " but because of

his lisp his cognitive ability is in question?!!! It's just like we

wrote in The Late Talker book that adults with even a minor

impairment of speech are assumed to have some sort of cognitive

disability. This is so WHY we need awareness and advocacy for the

verbal disabled.

You know I'm going to talk to the school about this too. We all need

to raise awareness about how unfair this is. That with just about

any other type of disability this would never happen. It's so sad.

http://answers./question/index?qid=20080825032901AAtLZQw

Anyway will let everyone know how it goes!

=====

[Guest guest]

Phelps actually was diagnosed with ADHD as a child. Here's

an article.

http://www.adderworld.com/blog1/2008/08/10/michael-phelps-adhd-hyper-

focus-concentration-helps-win-gold-medal-in-beijing/

http://wjz.com/seenon/michael.phelps.adhd.2.777123.html

>

> Well today is the day I go to Tanner's school. So I'm looking for

> articles to use in the presentation with the head of school and I

> find something disgusting.

>

> For those that don't recall or that are new, Tanner speech regressed

> dramatically due to a supplement that had mega levels of vitamins in

> it (long story) and in the past whenever his speech regressed due to

> the wrong formula of fish oils -all it took was a day to get things

> back to normal. Note to self- do not play around with fat soluble

> vitamins. Now I'm stuck in a situation like I have not been in

> since Tanner was first diagnosed. Who do I ask? Like anyone really

> knows.

>

> Since his speech is gradually getting better I'm hoping that's a

good

> thing - but he's still not back to where he was just a few weeks ago

> yet. The school thinks I put him on a new medication and his

friends

> and teachers don't know why he was so suddenly quiet and now why his

> speech regressed and Tanner wanted me to come in and explain.

>

> I found out not just from Tanner but from his friends that he is not

> being teased -but nobody understands why this is going on and it's a

> bit too complicated for Tanner to explain (which is why the school

> thinks it is a new medication -which neither of my boys have ever

> been on any medication) Yes I did talk to some of the teachers -but

> the head of school thought it best for me to come in and address the

> entire school.

>

> Yesterday Tanner said to me that when he talks now even though

nobody

> makes fun of him - he thinks that they are thinking " I am retarded

or

> something because of the way I'm talking now " Clearly even if

others

> are not bothered by his speech it bothers Tanner. We talked about

> how well he does in school and how many friends he has. And of

> course we talked about Radcliffe and Phelps and

> bringing up always seems to help as Tanner is a HUGE Phelps

> fan.

>

> I found articles about Radcliffe which were all great. Many

> to choose from. Then I looked for something about Phelps

> because of course he too is someone that is a great success that

also

> has has a lisp (and on land appears to have strong signs of

dyspraxia

> too) and I found this article of how he was teased as a child due to

> his large ears and his lisp

>

> http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/editors-choice/2008/08/14/profile-

how-michael-phelps-went-from-bullied-kid-with-big-ears-to-the-world-s-

most-successful-olympian-86908-20696762/

>

> Teased as a child but he's a success today. So like the articles

> about I didn't expect to read this posted just one month ago:

>

> " Is Phelps slightly retarded?

> I know I'm not alone in this. He appears a bit " off " , like

> he's ...you know - " special " .

>

> He pronounces his last name as " Phelpth " and says he's a " thwimmer " .

>

> Just wondering if anyone out there knew what's really goin' on?

> 1 month ago "

>

>

> I don't know what is worse. The question or the majority of the

> answers! I mean this is a guy that is an all time hero, one that

> clearly is the best swimmer the world has ever known and who has

done

> interviews and who clearly isn't " slightly retarded " but because of

> his lisp his cognitive ability is in question?!!! It's just like we

> wrote in The Late Talker book that adults with even a minor

> impairment of speech are assumed to have some sort of cognitive

> disability. This is so WHY we need awareness and advocacy for the

> verbal disabled.

>

> You know I'm going to talk to the school about this too. We all

need

> to raise awareness about how unfair this is. That with just about

> any other type of disability this would never happen. It's so sad.

> http://answers./question/index?qid=20080825032901AAtLZQw

>

> Anyway will let everyone know how it goes!

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

Well, the problem is you are diferentiating our kids from the " mentally

retarded. " I am not sure anyone knows that MR exists. Personally I

think everyone, regardless of neuro functional appearance, has the

power to feel pain, emotional pain, and MR is insensitive as well as

this awful info found on Phelps.

Typical functioning or higher than what has been deemed MR need not

translate to insensitive.

> I found articles about Radcliffe which were all great. Many

> to choose from. Then I looked for something about Phelps

> because of course he too is someone that is a great success that also

> has has a lisp (and on land appears to have strong signs of dyspraxia

> too) and I found this article of how he was teased as a child due to

> his large ears and his lisp

>

>

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/editors-choice/2008/08/14/profile-how-michael-\

phelps-went-from-bullied-kid-with-big-ears-to-the-world-s-most-successful-olympi\

an-86908-20696762/

>

> Teased as a child but he's a success today. So like the articles

> about I didn't expect to read this posted just one month ago:

>

> " Is Phelps slightly retarded?

> I know I'm not alone in this. He appears a bit " off " , like

> he's ...you know - " special " .

>

> He pronounces his last name as " Phelpth " and says he's a " thwimmer " .

>

> Just wondering if anyone out there knew what's really goin' on?

> 1 month ago "

>

>

> I don't know what is worse. The question or the majority of the

> answers! I mean this is a guy that is an all time hero, one that

> clearly is the best swimmer the world has ever known and who has done

> interviews and who clearly isn't " slightly retarded " but because of

> his lisp his cognitive ability is in question?!!! It's just like we

> wrote in The Late Talker book that adults with even a minor

> impairment of speech are assumed to have some sort of cognitive

> disability. This is so WHY we need awareness and advocacy for the

> verbal disabled.

>

> You know I'm going to talk to the school about this too. We all need

> to raise awareness about how unfair this is. That with just about

> any other type of disability this would never happen. It's so sad.

> http://answers./question/index?qid=20080825032901AAtLZQw

>

> Anyway will let everyone know how it goes!

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry so long for the update. I went to Tanner's school today and

had information about both Radcliffe and Phelps as

planned. I was able to do a computer presentation but decided to

just keep it cozy and personal -a fun candid chat. (I have no

trouble with public speaking)

From memory I will try to write down what happened:

" How many people here know Radcliffe? "

(only around 5 children raised their hands and some of the teachers

did)

The headmaster said " But how many know who Harry Potter is? "

Everyone raised their hand and one child said " You mean the boy that

plays Harry Potter in the movies? " and we confirmed that

I said " has a secret does anyone know what it is? " And 4

hands went up -these were the answers

" Oh, Oh he has a new girlfriend? " (well he may but that's not the

secret I'm looking for)

2 hands went down

" He has apraxia? " (Tanner's one friend)

We got into then a huge conversation about apraxia/dyspraxia and how

it can affect the body or speech. I had brought a few of the movies

with me and held them up and left them at the school. The children

were all curious why didn't appear to have any trouble with

going up the stairs in the movie.

I then brought up Phelps and talked about how when he came

back home he had a heroes welcome where thousands of people lined the

streets. I then held up an article about him as a young boy -he was

teased due to his lisp and his big ears. I said " But does anyone

think anyone would make fun of Phelps today? "

The whole room said " No way! "

I said well about one month ago this question was posted on . I

read the question and there was an audible GASP from the entire

room. I said " It's not only the question but I have here 7 pages of

answers which many of them are just as sad. I'm going to leave this

with your head of school if she believes it's appropriate to show to

any of you. I then talked about those that wear glasses, or that

have hearing impairments, or that have to be in wheelchairs (there's

one little girl in the school that has to be in a wheel chair due to

severe seizures) and how like that a verbal disability is a

disability. Of course I talked about some other actors that have

impairments of speech.

I talked about Tanner as a little boy and how we had to use sign

language and I explained how we used picture exchange as a way for

him to talk and told a funny story about each. I talked about how

hard Tanner worked to be able to talk. (I did not go into the

sensory or any other issues -just kept it at the speech)

I didn't go into details about the why the regression of speech other

than

" Many of you know that Tanner was talking OK for the most part and

then all of a sudden he was very quiet and now he is having a bit of

trouble with talking. He wasn't put onto medication it was a

supplement that a doctor thought would help him but it didn't and now

we are working really hard on helping him get back to where it was "

The head of school then asked Tanner

" Tanner when you have trouble talking would you prefer we prompt or

help you or that we wait for you? "

It was brutal. I knew he wanted to say that he wanted everyone to

wait so the worst thing I could do is say what he wanted -but it took

what seemed like 20 minutes to get that out. Poor little guy.

There were TONS of questions but mainly what I found was that each

child wanted to talk about their own issues which was really cool.

Here's just a few I recall:

" Will Tanner be cured of this? "

" I have a speech impairment too and I went to a therapist for years

but they didn't help me and now that I moved here the therapists

think it's because I am from Israel and that's why I can't pronounce

my 'r's " (he did not have a diagnosis but clearly still had

articulation issues -I left Dr. Jonas' number for him to give to his

parents)

" I used to stutter "

" I have ADHD and when I was little I had to see a speech therapist

for articulation and I hated it so I don't go anymore " (said

perfectly)

" I have dyslexia where I don't always see the letters right "

" Does Tanner still know how to do sign language? "

" I googled Tanner's name and I saw he was on Inside Edition "

Well that went into a huge discussion of how Tanner is a " super star "

as I or Tanner never told anyone about The Late Talker book or any of

the interviews Tanner had been on. We went way over what we were

supposed to and the hands kept raising as there were more and more

questions. I know each child wanted to talk about either something

they went through or something that someone else went to.

When Tanner came home from school he said that everyone in the school

kept coming up to him saying how cool it was that he was such a super

star. Also for what ever it's worth -the sign language aspect was a

huge hit. Many people kept asking about that. I was told it went

really well. I thought so too. Tanner said he was happy.

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