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[Guest guest]

, it is amazing when you look at the ingredient labels, how many foods

and drinks have artifical coloring, dyes, etc in them. Carolyn

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In a message dated 2/28/2008 11:40:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

lizlaw@... writes:

Re: touching his private areas occasionally

That sounds like yeast.

Really?? That sounds like yeast to you?

Wow-- I must be totally out if it.

Honestly-- when I saw that, My first thought was that it just sounded as

though he was a very normal and typical BOY!

Having 4 boys (and another on the way)

touching their private parts seem to go hand in hand with them. (to pardon

the expression)

Sorry to the guys on the board -- I mean no offense by this. I just know

that for MY boys, touching themselves seems to be the norm.

becky

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[Guest guest]

What is more offensive than what they put in our food is the way the

government allows them to hide suspect ingredients. MSG and HFCS can

be hidden in " natural flavors " . Dairy products in particular

practically have a free pass. Many people who think they are dairy

intolerant might actually be intolerant to one or more additives. For

example, most milk that is not whole milk is preserved with BHT. I bet

nobody has ever seen that on a milk label. When we were drinking

dairy, we bought an organic brand that was confirmed to have no BHT.

We buy the Feingold program foodlist because they research the foods.

I have found foods sold at Whole Foods listed in the foodlist that have

HFCS and MSG, but not listed on the label. (Whole Foods has a list of

dozens of additives that they refuse to carry, including HFCS and MSG.

I always complain when I find an offender, and they always pull it from

the shelf of my store.)

>

> , it is amazing when you look at the ingredient labels, how many

foods

> and drinks have artifical coloring, dyes, etc in them. Carolyn

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The allergist tells me the FDA is cracking down oon this in 2009.

> >

> > , it is amazing when you look at the ingredient labels, how

many

> foods

> > and drinks have artifical coloring, dyes, etc in them. Carolyn

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The touching themselves a lot and inability to stop sounds like

yeast. My son wakes this way and on a bad day he sneaks off to do it.

This happens if he gets calmag and on other occasions that sadly seem

to back up my fluoride theory...something I so do not want to be

right about. Probiotics also stir this pot.

>

>

> In a message dated 2/28/2008 11:40:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> lizlaw@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> Re: touching his private areas occasionally

>

> That sounds like yeast.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Really?? That sounds like yeast to you?

> Wow-- I must be totally out if it.

>

> Honestly-- when I saw that, My first thought was that it just

sounded as

> though he was a very normal and typical BOY!

> Having 4 boys (and another on the way)

> touching their private parts seem to go hand in hand with them. (to

pardon

> the expression)

>

> Sorry to the guys on the board -- I mean no offense by this. I just

know

> that for MY boys, touching themselves seems to be the norm.

>

>

> becky

>

>

>

> **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL

Living.

> (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-

campos-duffy/

> 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Only one of my four boys does this. He just started doing it about three

weeks ago. I was thinking it was a yeast or urinary crystals. I am

keeping an eye on it. We will see the doctor soon. I am sure she will

want to investigate it too. Her son had no speech until 4.

Coincidently, he had kidney issues that was treated with immune

suppressants. Once he began the meds, his speech came within a few days.

She always suspected some sort of relationship. (He is now a graduate

of Harvad Law).

tbniesh@... wrote:

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> In a message dated 2/28/2008 11:40:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> lizlaw@... writes:

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>

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> Re: touching his private areas occasionally

>

> That sounds like yeast.

>

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>

>

> Really?? That sounds like yeast to you?

> Wow-- I must be totally out if it.

>

> Honestly-- when I saw that, My first thought was that it just sounded as

> though he was a very normal and typical BOY!

> Having 4 boys (and another on the way)

> touching their private parts seem to go hand in hand with them. (to pardon

> the expression)

>

> Sorry to the guys on the board -- I mean no offense by this. I just know

> that for MY boys, touching themselves seems to be the norm.

>

>

> becky

>

>

>

> **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.

>

(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/

> 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

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[Guest guest]

Can you tell me more about the crystal theory. Maybe off list. This

topic may get gross. graphic, whatever you want to say.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/29/2008 9:46:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

makeitbetter@... writes:

The masturbation as it relates to discomfort

caused by intestinal or systemic yeast in boys and girls is well-known

in the world of people treating their children for candida

Well, I understand that it would be yeast when it's related to discomfort.

I'm not thinking that's what my boys are doing it for though. LOL

(unfortunately-- because I think it might be an easier " cure " ??)

eeeks why didnt' anyone warn me of this in boys??

Becky

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/29/2008 8:44:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

bigcheech91@... writes:

Sorry to any who find this topic gross. I honestly can't believe I

started it. How did I end up with three boys?

The very same way I've ended up with FIVE! LOL

If anyone would have told me this way back when-- I'm not sure I would have

handled the news too well back then.

Becky

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In a message dated 2/29/2008 8:57:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

kiddietalk@... writes:

Not sure where some of you get your information -but please post a

credible link about penis yeast infections.

I don't think they were talking necessarily about " penile yeast infections "

were they? I just assumed they were talking about boys that would have a

systemic yeast issue/problem going on-- but not necessarily one that is limited

to that particular area. I could be wrong though??

I've assumed that *most* of the issues they've been referring to regarding

yeast are more along the lines of a systemic or whole-body yeast infection,

which would leave the child pretty much feeling itchy and " ick " all over. when

I think of it, the private parts itching (in that respect) makes perfect

sense.

anyhoo-- that was my impression-- one of them can correct me if I'm wrong

becky

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[Guest guest]

It is true that all boys touch themselves, but the yeasty touching is

different. It's not that casual, exploratory " look what I have in my

pants " touching. It's more itchy-type touching. Also, any increase

in activity in a prepubescent boy is an indicator of something going

on. My son is generally not a big toucher in that area, so that's

why I noticed it. I have heard some autistic kids seem like they are

doing something sexual, when in fact they are just crazy with

itchiness.

Sorry to any who find this topic gross. I honestly can't believe I

started it. How did I end up with three boys?

in NJ

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>

> In a message dated 2/28/2008 11:40:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> lizlaw@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> Re: touching his private areas occasionally

>

> That sounds like yeast.

>

>

>

>

> Really?? That sounds like yeast to you?

> Wow-- I must be totally out if it.

>

> Honestly-- when I saw that, My first thought was that it just

sounded as

> though he was a very normal and typical BOY!

> Having 4 boys (and another on the way)

> touching their private parts seem to go hand in hand with them. (to

pardon

> the expression)

>

> Sorry to the guys on the board -- I mean no offense by this. I just

know

> that for MY boys, touching themselves seems to be the norm.

>

>

> becky

>

[Guest guest]

No not gross -but it's again statements that are coming across as

fact that may be misinformation/alarmist.

Itchy type touching can mean many things. Here's 17 reasons from

wrongdiagnosis and I couldn't find yeast in any of the 17. No

disrespect but let me know if you see yeast even mentioned here.

http://wrongdiagnosis.com/sym/penile_itch.htm

Yeast infection is in females for that area -found that. Here's more

on what is and isn't appropriate touching.

http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/pa/pa_sexbehav_hhg.htm

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/4987/dealing_with_toddlers_and_genital_\

touching.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,244221,00.html

Not sure where some of you get your information -but please post a

credible link about penis yeast infections.

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[Guest guest]

I don't have a link...yet, but Dr. Bock writes the below (snipped)

comments on the subject. The masturbation as it relates to discomfort

caused by intestinal or systemic yeast in boys and girls is well-known

in the world of people treating their children for candida..my son did

it, too, during the worst part of his yeast die-off and treatment.

I'll ask around and see if some of the medical research gurus can

furnish some more concrete references.

http://www.autismhelpathome.com/biomedical/about_candida.phpSigns

and Symptoms of Candida

Overgrowth:

On Candida Overgrowth Dr. Bock writes:

* Itching or redness in any of the mucosal membranes, or in any

external body tissue that is in a warm, moist area.

* Recurrent vaginal infections, or " jock itch " irritation in males.

[Guest guest]

Yeast is listed in your link...AKA.....Candida Infection.....serious

condition and should be treated as it can reak havoc once it reaches the

bloodstream.

kiddietalk wrote:

> No not gross -but it's again statements that are coming across as

> fact that may be misinformation/alarmist.

>

> Itchy type touching can mean many things. Here's 17 reasons from

> wrongdiagnosis and I couldn't find yeast in any of the 17. No

> disrespect but let me know if you see yeast even mentioned here.

> http://wrongdiagnosis.com/sym/penile_itch.htm

>

> Yeast infection is in females for that area -found that. Here's more

> on what is and isn't appropriate touching.

>

> http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/pa/pa_sexbehav_hhg.htm

>

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/4987/dealing_with_toddlers_and_genital_\

touching.html

> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,244221,00.html

>

> Not sure where some of you get your information -but please post a

> credible link about penis yeast infections.

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

Candida infection is listed.

That is medical jargon for Yeast Infection. Candida is a type of yeast. Number

6 on the list.

I have a nine month old with a somewhat chronic yeast infection in the diaper

area and he grabs each and every chance he gets.

[ ] Re: WAS: yet another MR NOW: Food and behavior

st...

No not gross -but it's again statements that are coming across as

fact that may be misinformation/alarmist.

Itchy type touching can mean many things. Here's 17 reasons from

wrongdiagnosis and I couldn't find yeast in any of the 17. No

disrespect but let me know if you see yeast even mentioned here.

http://wrongdiagnosis.com/sym/penile_itch.htm

Yeast infection is in females for that area -found that. Here's more

on what is and isn't appropriate touching.

http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/pa/pa_sexbehav_hhg.htm

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/4987/dealing_with_toddlers_and_genital_\

touching.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,244221,00.html

Not sure where some of you get your information -but please post a

credible link about penis yeast infections.

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[Guest guest]

> Becky,

When Mark is yeasty, his genitals get 'jump-out-of-your-skin' itchy! If

you've ever had a yeast infection after anti-biotics, you know what I

mean..... racing to the store for Monostat itchy! That is yeast....

Janice

> In a message dated 2/28/2008 11:40:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> lizlaw@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> Re: touching his private areas occasionally

>

> That sounds like yeast.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Really?? That sounds like yeast to you?

> Wow-- I must be totally out if it.

>

> Honestly-- when I saw that, My first thought was that it just sounded as

> though he was a very normal and typical BOY!

> Having 4 boys (and another on the way)

> touching their private parts seem to go hand in hand with them. (to pardon

> the expression)

>

> Sorry to the guys on the board -- I mean no offense by this. I just know

> that for MY boys, touching themselves seems to be the norm.

>

>

> becky

>

>

>

> **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.

>

(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/

> 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have two boys 11 and 13 and a husband...and myself -and maybe we

are all yeast free but no...don't relate..No itchy boys or girls

here. Oh wait have seen it. On TV - baseball players!!! Guess one

of you better tell them.

(but maybe let them know about the other 16 reasons too

http://wrongdiagnosis.com/sym/penile_itch.htm )

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[Guest guest]

Actually Janice I just thought of it when I went to the fridge -we

eat yogurt very often in our house -even our boys eat yogurt for

lunch many days. There is acidophilus in it which is well known for

how it's healthy, including fighting yeast.

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/lactobacillus-000310.htm

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[Guest guest]

Wow. Because it doesn't happen in your house, it doesn't happen?

How very myopic of you. And, here, you thought there were

no " vision " problems in this group. ;-)

>

> I have two boys 11 and 13 and a husband...and myself -and maybe we

> are all yeast free but no...don't relate..No itchy boys or girls

> here. Oh wait have seen it. On TV - baseball players!!! Guess one

> of you better tell them.

> (but maybe let them know about the other 16 reasons too

> http://wrongdiagnosis.com/sym/penile_itch.htm )

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, and what concerns me in a kid who cannot fully express himself

is the other symptoms. Having had gut related yeast things myself

there has been abdominal and back pain involved.

>

> > Becky,

>

> When Mark is yeasty, his genitals get 'jump-out-of-your-skin'

itchy! If

> you've ever had a yeast infection after anti-biotics, you know what

I

> mean..... racing to the store for Monostat itchy! That is yeast....

>

> Janice

>

>

> > In a message dated 2/28/2008 11:40:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> > lizlaw@... writes:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: touching his private areas occasionally

> >

> > That sounds like yeast.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Really?? That sounds like yeast to you?

> > Wow-- I must be totally out if it.

> >

> > Honestly-- when I saw that, My first thought was that it just

sounded as

> > though he was a very normal and typical BOY!

> > Having 4 boys (and another on the way)

> > touching their private parts seem to go hand in hand with them.

(to pardon

> > the expression)

> >

> > Sorry to the guys on the board -- I mean no offense by this. I

just know

> > that for MY boys, touching themselves seems to be the norm.

> >

> >

> > becky

> >

> >

> >

> > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL

Living.

> > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-

eater/rachel-campos-duffy/

> > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Honestly, it can be very painful, particularly for these kids...all

the kids who have it, be they apraxic, autistic, or typical. I am

glad your family was spared. Just sad that if it has not happened in

your home it does not seem to exist in your book.

>

> I have two boys 11 and 13 and a husband...and myself -and maybe we

> are all yeast free but no...don't relate..No itchy boys or girls

> here. Oh wait have seen it. On TV - baseball players!!! Guess one

> of you better tell them.

> (but maybe let them know about the other 16 reasons too

> http://wrongdiagnosis.com/sym/penile_itch.htm )

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, and that is an ingredient in some of the probiotics the kids who

can't have milk, take. I tested the yogurt only diet early on when I

was testing to be sure milk was a true issue here and unfortunately

for us yogurt remained an issue. The SCD folks say the make your own

stuff with goats milk should not be an issue but I have not done that.

source: pecanbread.org

The Vicious Cycle by Elaine Gotschall

>

> Actually Janice I just thought of it when I went to the fridge -we

> eat yogurt very often in our house -even our boys eat yogurt for

> lunch many days. There is acidophilus in it which is well known

for

> how it's healthy, including fighting yeast.

>

> http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/lactobacillus-000310.htm

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

Wow .... interesting. My NT son that is five (and can express

himself) complains of itchiness there. He says it itches and hurts.

But I took him to the good ol pediatrician and he was stumped. I

suggested yeast but he said 'no' because it is not red and there is

no discharge. He took a urine sample and it was normal. Is there

some way to test for yeast in the penis that will not emotionally

scar a five year old for the rest of his life? Can you use a yeast

cream or should treatment be oral antifungals?

Why does it seem to me that mom's know more than docs these days.

Michele

>

>

> In a message dated 2/29/2008 8:44:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> bigcheech91@... writes:

>

> Sorry to any who find this topic gross. I honestly can't believe I

> started it. How did I end up with three boys?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> The very same way I've ended up with FIVE! LOL

> If anyone would have told me this way back when-- I'm not sure I

would have

> handled the news too well back then.

>

>

> Becky

>

>

>

> **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL

Living.

> (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-

campos-duffy/

> 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yeast infections are very complex in nature. When there is a yeast

imbalance in the body, there are so many different symptoms associated

with the condition. This condition is overlooked and misdiagnosed by

doctors due to the multiplicity of symptoms. Their rational is that a

person cannot have so many different symptoms associated with one imbalance.

Symptoms of a yeast imbalance would include mood swings, irritability,

depression, headaches, lethargy, gastritis, colitis, bloated feeling in

the stomach, fluid in the ears, various rashes, itches, cirrhosis, acne,

floaters or spots in the eyes, blurred vision, excessive tearing,

burning of the eyes, dry mouth, cough, bad breath, blisters, sore

throat, aching muscles, white patches on skin, various kinds of edema

(swelling), joint problems, nasal congestion, stiffness, post nasal

drip, cystitis, kidney problems, bladder infections, fatigue, loss of

appetite, sleeping problems, numbness, tingling, endometriosis, cysts,

cramping, PMS, hay fever, asthma, food sensitivity, hives, thrush (yeast

in the mouth), colic and the list goes on.

A yeast imbalance if left alone is dangerous and will become

debilitating to your health.

ilizzy03 wrote:

> Honestly, it can be very painful, particularly for these kids...all

> the kids who have it, be they apraxic, autistic, or typical. I am

> glad your family was spared. Just sad that if it has not happened in

> your home it does not seem to exist in your book.

>

>

>

>> I have two boys 11 and 13 and a husband...and myself -and maybe we

>> are all yeast free but no...don't relate..No itchy boys or girls

>> here. Oh wait have seen it. On TV - baseball players!!! Guess one

>> of you better tell them.

>> (but maybe let them know about the other 16 reasons too

>> http://wrongdiagnosis.com/sym/penile_itch.htm )

>>

>> =====

>>

[Guest guest]

I never said yeast didn't happen! Just not in my house to either me

or my two boys or my husband. That doesn't make me myopic -

just 'unyeasty' and stating personal facts. May have missed my next

post it may be because we eat yogurt often. Also I posted wrong

diagnosis to show that there are 17 reasons they list for why one can

get itchy...there. Candida was just one of them and it's not one of

the hyperlinked reasons.

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