Guest guest Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 My daughter was recently diagnosed with AS and has begun full-day reg. K, with a 1:1 aide, OT, ST,and a psychologist all working on a behavior plan/social skills. Academically, she is well ahead of the class, but the setting seems to bring out the worst in her! She is engaging in behaviors which we have never seen at home or in regular Pre-K: making strange noises, yelling, blowing in and spitting in others'faces!! The entire school knows her for these inappropriate outbursts and she spends much time outside of the classroom being reprimanded (by the principal) and redirected by the rest of the team... Has anyone experienced similar outbursts, who can offer any insights? Also, can anyone provide me with a list of alternate placements which might be a better fit? Finally, My husband and I want the school to call in an Autism Consultant and they seem hesitant ($$) is this our right? Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated:) Sincerely, pumkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 > My daughter was recently diagnosed with AS and has begun full-day > reg. K, with a 1:1 aide, OT, ST,and a psychologist all working on a > behavior plan/social skills. Academically, she is well ahead of the > class, but the setting seems to bring out the worst in her! She is > engaging in behaviors which we have never seen at home or in regular > Pre-K: making strange noises, yelling, blowing in and spitting in > others'faces!! The entire school knows her for these inappropriate > outbursts and she spends much time outside of the classroom being > reprimanded (by the principal) and redirected by the rest of the > team... > Has anyone experienced similar outbursts, who can offer any insights? > > Also, can anyone provide me with a list of alternate placements which > might be a better fit? > > Finally, My husband and I want the school to call in an Autism > Consultant and they seem hesitant ($$) is this our right? > > Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated:) > Sincerely, pumkie pumpkie, From your description, it seems that the school personnel have been unsuccessful at creating an appropriate program for your daughter. This should indicate that a consultant should be brought in, however I don't know the actual law. One thought I had is that maybe full-day K is too much for your daughter, and maybe she would manage better in half-day K. in Massachusetts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Hi, Sounds like my DS last year. The only advice I have is to keep a journal, write everything down she says. Ask her questions and write. This will be bedt for up- coming meeting. A lot of her behaviors seem sensory based. Is she dx'ed DIS? Read up on sensory issues to find ways to reduce behaviors. Is school OT ok? We needed private OT along with school OT to help my son. Good book was Asperger Syn and Sensory issues. Good Luck Dee O > My daughter was recently diagnosed with AS and has begun full-day > reg. K, with a 1:1 aide, OT, ST,and a psychologist all working on a > behavior plan/social skills. Academically, she is well ahead of the > class, but the setting seems to bring out the worst in her! She is > engaging in behaviors which we have never seen at home or in regular > Pre-K: making strange noises, yelling, blowing in and spitting in > others'faces!! The entire school knows her for these inappropriate > outbursts and she spends much time outside of the classroom being > reprimanded (by the principal) and redirected by the rest of the > team... > Has anyone experienced similar outbursts, who can offer any insights? > > Also, can anyone provide me with a list of alternate placements which > might be a better fit? > > Finally, My husband and I want the school to call in an Autism > Consultant and they seem hesitant ($$) is this our right? > > Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated:) > Sincerely, pumkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 I am having the same situation, but our son has been having trouble since he was 2 /12 and was labeled the bad kid. We had to change day care settings three times. Now in the K classroom we get the same complaints as you do and the sad or crying bear faces daily. The problem is that nobody wants to really take time to see what is setting them off. In addition, we have been waiting for more than 4 weeks on the Psychologist report and nothing yet. He has been in OT (paid by us) for almost two years and that helped a lot. They just want kids to follow their rules and their routine without paying attention to their special needs. You can tell I am very frustrated at this point. Idelice ( ) Re: LRE vs. Home Schooling > My daughter was recently diagnosed with AS and has begun full-day > reg. K, with a 1:1 aide, OT, ST,and a psychologist all working on a > behavior plan/social skills. Academically, she is well ahead of the > class, but the setting seems to bring out the worst in her! She is > engaging in behaviors which we have never seen at home or in regular > Pre-K: making strange noises, yelling, blowing in and spitting in > others'faces!! The entire school knows her for these inappropriate > outbursts and she spends much time outside of the classroom being > reprimanded (by the principal) and redirected by the rest of the > team... > Has anyone experienced similar outbursts, who can offer any insights? > > Also, can anyone provide me with a list of alternate placements which > might be a better fit? > > Finally, My husband and I want the school to call in an Autism > Consultant and they seem hesitant ($$) is this our right? > > Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated:) > Sincerely, pumkie pumpkie, From your description, it seems that the school personnel have been unsuccessful at creating an appropriate program for your daughter. This should indicate that a consultant should be brought in, however I don't know the actual law. One thought I had is that maybe full-day K is too much for your daughter, and maybe she would manage better in half-day K. in Massachusetts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Hi, It certainly sounds like someone with some clue about the austism spectrum and behavioral plans needs to get involved. I assume you have asked everyone currently involved, including your daughter, what they think might be causing the problem. Under the No Child Left Behind Act you have the right to know the qualifications of all the school personnel involved with your child. How much experience do any of them have working with children with AS? From your description it is hard to know where the problem lies, just that it is affecting your daughter pretty badly. Someone already suggested the possibility of sensory issues to you (could be anything from too much ambient noise all day, to the sound of fluorescent lights, to being expected to sit still too much. The Out of Sync Child is a good book to read about sensory integration issues.). It could be boredom. It could be frustration because she's trying hard and still not succeeding. It might even be low blood sugar because they aren't eating when she needs to or she isn't comfortable to eat enough. (Protein for breakfast really helps my daughter.) I know my daughter found kindergarten hard because she has CAPD and so it is hard for her to understand speech or really concentrate in the presence of background noise. Someone with experience with behavioral issues and AS kids needs to do a functional behavioral analysis. No matter who does it, remember that any behavior plan needs to be POSITIVE, not punitive. This is what the law requires. My daughter went to 3+ hours of kindergarten a day last year and behaved beautifully and then came HOME to have her meltdowns. That is why we are homeschooling now. From the title of your message, I wondered if that was something you were considering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Here you can call in the Autism department w/ little grief. Well unless you are at my school w/ our vp..lol. Normally speaking it's NOT an issue. I'd think they'd want to do this as it would help them too. If it helps your dd have you considered simply offering to split the cost? Right or wrong it is sometimes easier. ly I am pretty sure there is NO cost here. Our district has an autism division. Go ahead and ask why my kids aren't there! hehehe a > My daughter was recently diagnosed with AS and has begun full-day > reg. K, with a 1:1 aide, OT, ST,and a psychologist all working on a > behavior plan/social skills. Academically, she is well ahead of the > class, but the setting seems to bring out the worst in her! She is > engaging in behaviors which we have never seen at home or in regular > Pre-K: making strange noises, yelling, blowing in and spitting in > others'faces!! The entire school knows her for these inappropriate > outbursts and she spends much time outside of the classroom being > reprimanded (by the principal) and redirected by the rest of the > team... > Has anyone experienced similar outbursts, who can offer any insights? > > Also, can anyone provide me with a list of alternate placements which > might be a better fit? > > Finally, My husband and I want the school to call in an Autism > Consultant and they seem hesitant ($$) is this our right? > > Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated:) > Sincerely, pumkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 Actually, I should have said that a behavioral plan is required by law to reward positive behaviors not just punish undesirable behaviors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 > > Finally, My husband and I want the school to call in an Autism > Consultant and they seem hesitant ($$) is this our right? > > Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated:) > Sincerely, pumkie Pumkie, Yes, it is your right to request an autism professional be brought in to assess her behavior and come up with a appropriate behavior plan. When they balk, you tell them that their plans have not worked. It is possible they are simply reinforcing bad behavior by how they handle things. IOW, getting out of the classroom might be her goal to begin with at this point. Roxanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 Are you waiting for the school psych report?? Bug this person daily until you get it. Request a meeting ASAP and at the meeting, request that they bring in an autism consultant to do a proper Functional Behavioral Assessment (FBA) and then write a Behavior plan. Here is an addy that talks more about these things --> http://www.air.org/cecp/fba/Default.htm Nobody should get a sad face everyday! Roxanna > I am having the same situation, but our son has been having trouble since he > was 2 /12 and was labeled the bad kid. We had to change day care settings > three times. Now in the K classroom we get the same complaints as you do > and the sad or crying bear faces daily. The problem is that nobody wants to > really take time to see what is setting them off. In addition, we have been > waiting for more than 4 weeks on the Psychologist report and nothing yet. He > has been in OT (paid by us) for almost two years and that helped a lot. > > > > They just want kids to follow their rules and their routine without paying > attention to their special needs. You can tell I am very frustrated at this > point. > > > > Idelice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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