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For Melinda Wiman,

Try reading some of O. C. Simonton, M.D.. He is an radiologist/oncologist, I

believe. He is written a few books alone and with his wife . She is either

a psychiatrist or psychologist. I have loaned out the books and do not

recall the names, but I am sure they could be found easily on Amazon.com and

O.C. Simonton has a web site. I am trying to go through my email, but , if I

have time later, I will try to find it for you. Good luck with your friend

and her pain.

Best wishes,

Lexi Simonton

(no relation to O.C. known. My sister-in-law found the book on the net

looking for things with my husband's family name. It was a great find and

has helped me tremendously when I was first diagnosed with ovarain

cancer,stagelllc.

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Melinda,

Try " Imagery in Healing: Shamanism and Modern

Medicine " by Jeanne Achterberg. Although it is not

exactly " conventional " (what alternative treatment

is???), the author does cover many case histories of

people using shamanic journeys and imagery to boost

their immune system and ultimately recover from

cancer.

Alida

--- Melinda Wiman <wiman@...> wrote:

> Looking for some good books, audios, or videos on

> the topic for someone who is more conventional but

> in pain.

> Melinda Wiman

=====

Alida Birch

Soul Retrieval, Healing & Training in the Shamanic Tradition

541-686-1610

PO Box 121, Eugene OR 97440

http://www.alidabirch.com

__________________________________________________

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If you are looking for good guided imagery try Belleruth Naparstek's

Health Journeys tapes and cds. You can find them on Amazon.com or

through her web site (www.healthjourneys.com). She has one for

cancer that is excellent, and there are titles for lots of other

things, too. My favorites are the stress and general wellness tapes.

I hope your friend is feeling better!

> Looking for some good books, audios, or videos on the topic for

someone who is more conventional but in pain.

>

> Melinda Wiman

> www.cancure.org

> The Cancer Cure Foundation

> (800) 282-2873

> Information and referrals on alternative approaches to treating

cancer

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 6/8/2003 3:32:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

uplift@... writes:

> It went very well.

> So well, that the teacher asked us to do it twice a week until the end of

> the year........ and I offered to do it for the teachers too!

>

Fania.

How wonderful. I could just see it going over well this year and then next

year you have your own business.....the school could see how well it helped

them and hire you! Wouldn't that be great?

Johanna

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In a message dated 1/5/2007 6:59:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, jenna@... writes:

disappointed that such a high caliber book didn't include anything as to guided imagery or any complementary therapies. As a bodyworker I know the value of relaxation, pain

Jena

At our pre-surgery class, one of the speakers was the woman who runs the "alternative medicine" department in our local hospital....she invited anyone who was interested to come to her office after the class to get some tapes and aromatherapy oils and only 4 of us went.....she gave each of us 2 plastic baggies....one with lavender oil to sniff if we feel anxious, and the other with peppermint oil to sniff if we feel nauseous.....also we got a CD player with a relaxation CD to play for a few days before the surgery and we also were allowed to take the CD player into the operating room, and the nurses allow you to keep it on during the surgery...even if you are asleep, they still will relax your body....all the stuff she gave us was in a yellow bag that went with us all through the operation and into our room, then when we were discharged, it stayed in the room and was delivered back to her office....I was very impressed that our hospital would even have a department like this....

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Hi ,

I am impressed with your hospital also.

What a forward thinking place.

Aussie Margaret

RTHR 1990 revised 2004

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| Jena

| At our pre-surgery class, one of the speakers was the woman who runs the

| " alternative medicine " department in our local hospital....she invited

anyone

| who was interested to come to her office after the class to get some tapes

and

| aromatherapy oils and only 4 of us went.....she gave each of us 2 plastic

| baggies....one with lavender oil to sniff if we feel anxious, and the

other with

| peppermint oil to sniff if we feel nauseous.....also we got a CD player

with

| a relaxation CD to play for a few days before the surgery and we also

were

| allowed to take the CD player into the operating room, and the nurses

allow you

| to keep it on during the surgery...even if you are asleep, they still

will

| relax your body....all the stuff she gave us was in a yellow bag that

went

| with us all through the operation and into our room, then when we were

| discharged, it stayed in the room and was delivered back to her

office....I was very

| impressed that our hospital would even have a department like this....

|

|

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Hi Jenna ... my best friend is a hypnotherapist. We worked on what I intended for the surgery and healing. She put me into a trance a couple days before, using key words and a meditation. Then when I came out of recovery, my friend read the meditation to me (I don't remember because I was so groggy). I truly believe working with the subconscious helps you heal faster. The power of suggestion ... At the hospital, I know the nurses were surprised my oxygen level stayed at 95-99% and my red cell count was quite high for just having surgery. I think that intentions do speed up healing as does prayer. I am getting ready to have my next hip replaced and will also do another guided imagery.JackieTRHR 10/24/06TLHR 1/23/07No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com

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Jenna,

I have a good friend who does hypnotherapy, and he made tapes for me

for pre- and post-op. I listened to them frequently, especially the

pre-op tape, and I'm glad I had this resource, as it was very helpful

in reducing my anxieties and worries. I had another CD of guided

imagery which was not specifically directed to surgery, recovery, etc.

I listened to it a few times but didn't find it as helpful.

Hope this helps,

Judy

>

> I would like to hear from those members who have used or are using

> guided imagery in their pre-/post-op periods.

>

> I had a visit with my surgical coordinator and we're good to go for

> 2/1. I did my dental visit today (no gum infections) and donate a pint

> next week. Then there's labs, EKG, etc. Started my pre-op exercises.

> Oh, the list is long.....

>

> I received a very good notebook from the surgical coordinator that was

> produced by my hospital, but was disappointed that such a high caliber

> book didn't include anything as to guided imagery or any complementary

> therapies. As a bodyworker I know the value of relaxation, pain

> management and as a stage for imagery - that massage can provide. I've

> been doing some imagery for myself but would like to hear from others

> as to their experiences using that relative to your joint surgery.

>

> Thanks,

> --Jenna

>

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Hi Jenna,

I found a book called Success Surgery, by Baker, MD. It was

recommended to me by two therapists, each of whom had used the book

and tapes and found them to be very helpful. His book has relaxation

and guided imagery scripts for basic use, immediate pre- and post-op,

in the operaating room, and recuperation. You can also order his

tapes (of the same) and customize them. He also explains the entire

surgery process of what to expect and helpful tips. I just used the

tapes for a hip resurfacing and found that I lost very little blood

and am having a fairly easy recovery. I'm still using them for moving

on to feeling great! I highly recommend them!

Good Luck!

Anne

>

> I would like to hear from those members who have used or are using

> guided imagery in their pre-/post-op periods.

>

> I had a visit with my surgical coordinator and we're good to go for

> 2/1. I did my dental visit today (no gum infections) and donate a

pint

> next week. Then there's labs, EKG, etc. Started my pre-op

exercises.

> Oh, the list is long.....

>

> I received a very good notebook from the surgical coordinator that

was

> produced by my hospital, but was disappointed that such a high

caliber

> book didn't include anything as to guided imagery or any

complementary

> therapies. As a bodyworker I know the value of relaxation, pain

> management and as a stage for imagery - that massage can provide.

I've

> been doing some imagery for myself but would like to hear from

others

> as to their experiences using that relative to your joint surgery.

>

> Thanks,

> --Jenna

>

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Hi Anne,

I googled Dr Baker, MD and found

one in MD and one in Fla., but no book called Success Surgery. Do you know the publisher or

how long ago you got this?

Thanks

Dahhling

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Hi Jenna,

I found a book called Success Surgery, by Baker, MD. It was

recommended to me by two therapists, each of whom had used the book

and tapes and found them to be very helpful. His book has relaxation

and guided imagery scripts for basic use, immediate pre- and post-op,

in the operaating room, and recuperation. You can also order his

tapes (of the same) and customize them. He also explains the entire

surgery process of what to expect and helpful tips. I just used the

tapes for a hip resurfacing and found that I lost very little blood

and am having a fairly easy recovery. I'm still using them for moving

on to feeling great! I highly recommend them!

Good Luck!

Anne

>

> I would like to hear from those members who have used or are using

> guided imagery in their pre-/post-op periods.

>

> I had a visit with my surgical coordinator and we're good to go for

> 2/1. I did my dental visit today (no gum infections) and donate a

pint

> next week. Then there's labs, EKG, etc. Started my pre-op

exercises.

> Oh, the list is long.....

>

> I received a very good notebook from the surgical coordinator that

was

> produced by my hospital, but was disappointed that such a high

caliber

> book didn't include anything as to guided imagery or any

complementary

> therapies. As a bodyworker I know the value of relaxation, pain

> management and as a stage for imagery - that massage can provide.

I've

> been doing some imagery for myself but would like to hear from

others

> as to their experiences using that relative to your joint surgery.

>

> Thanks,

> --Jenna

>

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When I had heart surgery, the hospital loaned me a tape player and tape named

"Successful Surgery" by Belleruth Naparstek of HEALTHJOURNEYS

www.healthjourneys.com

One side is guided imagery, the other is Affirmations.

I was allowed to listen to the tape during the operation, after having it for a week before the surgery.

The tape is very effective. I loan it to everyone I know who has to do surgery.

LJ

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dear Judy I had TKR done 22 months ago. My husband is an anaesthesiologist. But he was not near me during my surgery. But all the pre op and post op hypnotherapy was given by him. In fact I was made to walk the very next day after my surgery by my physio. I started walking with minimal support 10 days after the surgery and resumed normal household duties in a month from my surgery. I have no complaints. The pain remained for a couple of months but gradually wore off.I did look up imagery of pre ,during ops and post ops while at home. The physiotherapy is all that is important. the appetite will return gradually after the long term effects of drugs wear off. Lakshmi Judy <jdytart@...> wrote: Jenna,I have a good friend who does hypnotherapy, and he made tapes for mefor pre- and post-op. I listened to them frequently, especially thepre-op tape, and I'm glad I had this resource, as it was very helpfulin reducing my anxieties and worries. I had another CD of guidedimagery which was not specifically directed to surgery, recovery, etc.I listened to it a few times but didn't find it as helpful.Hope this helps,Judy>> I would like to hear from those members who have used or are using >

guided imagery in their pre-/post-op periods.> > I had a visit with my surgical coordinator and we're good to go for > 2/1. I did my dental visit today (no gum infections) and donate a pint > next week. Then there's labs, EKG, etc. Started my pre-op exercises. > Oh, the list is long.....> > I received a very good notebook from the surgical coordinator that was > produced by my hospital, but was disappointed that such a high caliber > book didn't include anything as to guided imagery or any complementary > therapies. As a bodyworker I know the value of relaxation, pain > management and as a stage for imagery - that massage can provide. I've > been doing some imagery for myself but would like to hear from others > as to their experiences using that relative to your joint surgery.> > Thanks,> --Jenna> __________________________________________________

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I got it a few months ago through Amazon. The ISBN # is 0-671-51900-

x. It is W. Baker, MD.

> >

> > I would like to hear from those members who have used or are

using

> > guided imagery in their pre-/post-op periods.

> >

> > I had a visit with my surgical coordinator and we're good to go

for

> > 2/1. I did my dental visit today (no gum infections) and donate

a

> pint

> > next week. Then there's labs, EKG, etc. Started my pre-op

> exercises.

> > Oh, the list is long.....

> >

> > I received a very good notebook from the surgical coordinator

that

> was

> > produced by my hospital, but was disappointed that such a high

> caliber

> > book didn't include anything as to guided imagery or any

> complementary

> > therapies. As a bodyworker I know the value of relaxation, pain

> > management and as a stage for imagery - that massage can

provide.

> I've

> > been doing some imagery for myself but would like to hear from

> others

> > as to their experiences using that relative to your joint

surgery.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > --Jenna

> >

>

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Thanks

for the info, I did find it on Amazon. You had also mentioned that he had tapes,

did you get those on Amazon as well?

Thanks for your response.

Dahhling

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I got it a few months ago

through Amazon. The ISBN # is 0-671-51900-

x. It is W. Baker, MD.

> >

> > I would like to hear from those members who have used or are

using

> > guided imagery in their pre-/post-op periods.

> >

> > I had a visit with my surgical coordinator and we're good to go

for

> > 2/1. I did my dental visit today (no gum infections) and donate

a

> pint

> > next week. Then there's labs, EKG, etc. Started my pre-op

> exercises.

> > Oh, the list is long.....

> >

> > I received a very good notebook from the surgical coordinator

that

> was

> > produced by my hospital, but was disappointed that such a high

> caliber

> > book didn't include anything as to guided imagery or any

> complementary

> > therapies. As a bodyworker I know the value of relaxation, pain

> > management and as a stage for imagery - that massage can

provide.

> I've

> > been doing some imagery for myself but would like to hear from

> others

> > as to their experiences using that relative to your joint

surgery.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > --Jenna

> >

>

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I borrowed the tapes from someone else. The information for ordering

the tapes is in the back of the book. They say they ship in 24 hrs.

> > >

> > > I would like to hear from those members who have used or are

> using

> > > guided imagery in their pre-/post-op periods.

> > >

> > > I had a visit with my surgical coordinator and we're good to

go

> for

> > > 2/1. I did my dental visit today (no gum infections) and

donate

> a

> > pint

> > > next week. Then there's labs, EKG, etc. Started my pre-op

> > exercises.

> > > Oh, the list is long.....

> > >

> > > I received a very good notebook from the surgical coordinator

> that

> > was

> > > produced by my hospital, but was disappointed that such a high

> > caliber

> > > book didn't include anything as to guided imagery or any

> > complementary

> > > therapies. As a bodyworker I know the value of relaxation,

pain

> > > management and as a stage for imagery - that massage can

> provide.

> > I've

> > > been doing some imagery for myself but would like to hear from

> > others

> > > as to their experiences using that relative to your joint

> surgery.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > --Jenna

> > >

> >

>

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Thanks to all who responded to my querie. This looks to be an

underserved area in surgical care, depending on where you are.

--Jenna

>

> I would like to hear from those members who have used or are using

> guided imagery in their pre-/post-op periods.

>

> I had a visit with my surgical coordinator and we're good to go for

> 2/1. I did my dental visit today (no gum infections) and donate a

pint

> next week. Then there's labs, EKG, etc. Started my pre-op

exercises.

> Oh, the list is long.....

>

> I received a very good notebook from the surgical coordinator that

was

> produced by my hospital, but was disappointed that such a high

caliber

> book didn't include anything as to guided imagery or any

complementary

> therapies. As a bodyworker I know the value of relaxation, pain

> management and as a stage for imagery - that massage can provide.

I've

> been doing some imagery for myself but would like to hear from

others

> as to their experiences using that relative to your joint surgery.

>

> Thanks,

> --Jenna

>

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