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Hi ,

Welcome !

Firstly you can get all sorts everywhere depending on where you are but a

lot of people find the Houston's Enzymes are 'one of a kind' and others just

don't match up to them.There are some on here who have come to use Houstons

after being on others which didn't work.

Also, if you are in the U.K. there is a phone no. for scotland for ordering

but I think in the states it is done thru the site, don't know about

anywhere else.

Have you seen any other site ?

http://www.danasview.net/index.htm

http://www.enzymestuff.com/

best of luck

Julea :o)

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Hi! I'm sort of in the same boat as you so can't offer much advise but have to

agree - it's so exciting and overwhelming! I just read the book at Christmas,

ordered the Houston enzymes and am just starting to build up the No-Fenol

first (this may not be the one you want to do first though, others are probably

in a better position to advise you on this).

About where to buy the enzymes though, I'd go with Houston's and I'll tell you

why. A few years ago (before I knew anything about the use of enzymes for

autism) I was watching an infomercial for a digestive enzyme product (nu-

zyme I think, can't remember). Everything the guy said made so much sense

and my son definitely fit in one of his 4 " body types " with the related

problems.

We tried them for quite a while but they didn't seem to do much (at least not

obvious) and we still needed the diet. I had been ordering vits from Kirkman

for awhile so when I saw they had an enzyme that was supposed to break

down casein/gluten I was so excited and ordered them. My son was on them

for over a year and again, they may have had some sort of benefit (he did

improve a lot over the year) but still could not get off the diet. Although the

kirkman one's are supposed to help with casein/gluten I don't ever remember

anyone saying they could be used " instead " of the diet. When I read this book

though and all the stories of success with Houston's I realized that I was using

the " wrong " enzymes for years and wanted to kick myself around the block at

least a few times! I am really feeling good about these ones and can hardly

wait to finish the transition over to all 3 products. So, to make a short story

long, save yourself years of frustration and just go straight to the Houstons!

Laurie

> My son is 13 years old and was finally diagnosed (hurrah!) with High

> Functioning Autism (deep sigh). We tried the GF/CF diet with loads

> of suppliments last year for about six months and saw some results,

> but it was very hard to maintain so we stopped. So, yesterday I

> read the Autism/Enzyme book and am hopeful, but feel way in over my

> head. If we're just starting out, which enzymes should he try? Can

> I only get them through this Houston Company or at my local health

> food store? Should we also be doing suppliments? Should I put him

> back on the diet (it's been almost a year since we did it)?

> Thanks,

>

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In a message dated 1/25/04 5:07:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

dighazuse@... writes:

> My son is 13 years old and was finally diagnosed (hurrah!) with High

> Functioning Autism (deep sigh). We tried the GF/CF diet with loads

> of suppliments last year for about six months and saw some results,

> but it was very hard to maintain so we stopped. So, yesterday I

> read the Autism/Enzyme book and am hopeful, but feel way in over my

> head. If we're just starting out, which enzymes should he try? Can

> I only get them through this Houston Company or at my local health

> food store? Should we also be doing suppliments? Should I put him

> back on the diet (it's been almost a year since we did it)?

> Thanks,

>

,

My own personal opinion is not to go back on the diet if you will be trying

the Houston enzymes. I like Houston; my son reacts horribly to virtually

anything Kirkman. Those are the only two companies I know of that have the

DPP_IV in

their formulae and that is what you need for the gluten and casein breakdown.

There are a slew of enzyme companies and some are really great. They just

have other things in their formulations that may not work well in our children

and they are missing the DPP-IV.

Also, give it time to work. You will likely see opiate withdrawal amd yeast

die off reactions. For us, it was truly a hellish time but worth it in the end.

Many people on this list recommend the Specific Carbohydrate Diet

www.pecanbread.com . We do not follow this but others say it is helpful for

them.

There are other supplements you many want to add in but start slowly. Why not

start with the enzymes and once you feel comfortable with them, add in other

things? There are great resources online and in the bookstores to help with

the learning process. I would start with the AFP Peptizyde because I like to

start working on the gluten, casein and soy opiate byproducts. The company

recommends starting with Zyme Prime but that does not address the gluten/casein/

soy

components. Also, NoFEnol will help with yeast but you will likely experience

dieoff reactions. Give one enzyme at a time to see reactions and perhaps wait

a few weeks between adding in other things, including more enzymes. I did not

do this and went down a harder path.

Good luck,

Robin

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You can get some more info at enzymestuff.com as well as in the files

here. We did the gfcf diet for a loooong 8 months and dropped it

never to look back with Houston enzymes. We did try Kirkman

enzymecomplete first only because I heard of it first, but it did not

work for my daughter. You will probably find with the enzymes you

will not need nearly the supplement load as before and will need to

sort of start from scratch. My daughter absorbs way more vitamin B,

for example and cannot tolerate any high doses.

We did not see significant gains with the diet either. Actually, that

was when my daughter developed trouble with yeast and bacteria. The

list of her food intollerences continued to grow which was difficult

as well as worrisome. With Houston's enzymes she tolerates almost

anything and is much, much healthier and happier. I am so greatful

not to have to do diets and to let her just eat good food.

Good luck!

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In , dighazuse@m... wrote:

> My son is 13 years old and was finally diagnosed (hurrah!) with

High

> Functioning Autism (deep sigh). We tried the GF/CF diet with loads

> of suppliments last year for about six months and saw some results,

> but it was very hard to maintain so we stopped. So, yesterday I

> read the Autism/Enzyme book and am hopeful, but feel way in over my

> head. If we're just starting out, which enzymes should he try?

Can

> I only get them through this Houston Company or at my local health

> food store? Should we also be doing suppliments? Should I put him

> back on the diet (it's been almost a year since we did it)?

> Thanks,

>

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