Guest guest Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Why sequester ammonia when the body's >natural way of eliminating ammonia is dependent (main dependence) on the >arginase enzyme which converts ammonia to ammonium which is easily >excreted by the kidney. While butyrate works, arginine, ornithine, >magnesium and manganese are far superior and proper in the >detoxification of ammonia. " from Williss/message/5185 was wondering why i was coping with large amounts of protien. butyrate doesn't work imo and i have a big question mark over some of the approaches taken by patricia kane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 , this is odd, I have been a member of this list for many years, and I never got this message, yet when I logged into the net there it was. I know because I was following this thread. Mark S. and Dr.Kane use to be in business together, that dissolved on unfriendly terms, so there is a reason that he comes out attacking her everytime her name is mentioned. Butyrate worked for us, and I have been saying so for over four years, ever since the first time we used it. The Kanes are intelligent people, they are not going to promote a product if it is not successful, and neither will they continue to associate themselves with individuals that harm their practice. Best, Carlton andrew wrote: > Why sequester ammonia when the body's > >>natural way of eliminating ammonia is dependent (main dependence) on > > the > >>arginase enzyme which converts ammonia to ammonium which is easily >>excreted by the kidney. While butyrate works, arginine, ornithine, >>magnesium and manganese are far superior and proper in the >>detoxification of ammonia. " > > > from > > Williss/message/5185 > > was wondering why i was coping with large amounts of protien. > > butyrate doesn't work imo and i have a big question mark over some > of the approaches taken by patricia kane. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 people are always a mixture of right and wrong , it is unwise to overcredit anyone with getting things substanially right. > > > Why sequester ammonia when the body's > > > >>natural way of eliminating ammonia is dependent (main dependence) on > > > > the > > > >>arginase enzyme which converts ammonia to ammonium which is easily > >>excreted by the kidney. While butyrate works, arginine, ornithine, > >>magnesium and manganese are far superior and proper in the > >>detoxification of ammonia. " > > > > > > from > > > > Williss/message/5185 > > > > was wondering why i was coping with large amounts of protien. > > > > butyrate doesn't work imo and i have a big question mark over some > > of the approaches taken by patricia kane. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Well here is what she has to say. Best, Carlton My work with hyperammonemia and butyrate spans 20 years. It originated with the research on ornithine transcarbamylase. If you look up that urea cycle disorder you will find that the treatment of choice is listed as phenylbutyrate. It is used in pediatric hospitals worldwide. Tributyrate is the actual name of the drug used (see www.tributyrate.com) but due to its expense I originated the use of Calcium/Magnesium Butyrate for children with seizure disorders and for detoxification. You can learn more about butyrate from www.Detoxxbook.com The odor is pungent thus two pharmacies make a liquid butyrate formula for me- one pure phenylbutyrate and the other combines peppermint oil, stevia and Cal-Mag Butyrate together. Exposure to mercury damages the enzyme ornithine transcarbamylase (OTC). It is a fascinating focus for research and one which Binstock had a field day with in my medical library on the subject. OTC has a direct relationship to autism and seizure disorders. Many have tried to use amino acids over the years as an intervention for seizure disorders but to date it has not been successful. Butyrate is safe and effective to use for infants and children. Many children are diagnosed in the first months of life- Tributyrate controls the ammonia so that they do not have seizures or a stroke. Dr. Kane andrew wrote: > > people are always a mixture of right and wrong , it is unwise to > overcredit anyone with getting things substanially right. > > > >> >> >>> Why sequester ammonia when the body's >>> >>> >>>>natural way of eliminating ammonia is dependent (main dependence) > > on > >>>the >>> >>> >>>>arginase enzyme which converts ammonia to ammonium which is easily >>>>excreted by the kidney. While butyrate works, arginine, > > ornithine, > >>>>magnesium and manganese are far superior and proper in the >>>>detoxification of ammonia. " >>> >>> >>>from >>> >>>Williss/message/5185 >>> >>>was wondering why i was coping with large amounts of protien. >>> >>>butyrate doesn't work imo and i have a big question mark over > > some > >>>of the approaches taken by patricia kane. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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