Re: OT/Probiotics and asthma

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In a message dated 1/18/04 7:20:47 PM, jmandmb@... writes:

<< Has anyone here had an

experience with asthma and yeast/bacteria die off?

>>

Definitely. Before I had enough experience to know how much/how often to give

them, GSE and OoO sent n into wheezing and the nebulizer. Now if I see

the tiniest sniffle, I cut back on whatever to keep the reaction from getting

worse.

Nell

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Nell,

>

> In a message dated 1/18/04 7:20:47 PM, jmandmb@y... writes:

>

> << Has anyone here had an

>

> experience with asthma and yeast/bacteria die off?

>

> >>

>

> Definitely. Before I had enough experience to know how much/how

often to give

> them, GSE and OoO sent n into wheezing and the nebulizer. Now

if I see

> the tiniest sniffle, I cut back on whatever to keep the reaction

from getting

> worse.

>

> Nell

Nell,

That is very interesting. What do you attribute it to? Do you think

the endotoxins from die off trigger it? Generally, we have only seen

viral triggers for Zach's asthma, but who's to say what else was

going on in his body? I wonder if yeast/bacteria flare when a virus

is present?

I gave the boys GSE the first couple of days, but now I have backed

off to just the probiotic. I will lower the dose a bit. I guess this

at least tells me that something is happening in his body (I'm

hoping for the positive, that the beneficial gut flora is winning!).

Zach's asthma this evening seems to have calmed, now he is sniffling

and seems like he is coming down with a cold.

This is the first time I have ever aggresively treated him for yeast.

Thanks for the info!

Miti

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Maybe someone with experience could also verify if this might be tied into that

excess mucous cough that occurs with die off or treatment. started with

it right away 4 weeks ago. Yes one could say " it's just a cold " , but would be

in her throat in the morning only, no other symptoms, and if she was successful

to cough it up that would be the end of it for the day. She is finishing up

with a normal little cold so hard to tell now if it's related, but has had it

the entire 4 weeks. AND I'm pretty sure the olive leaf extract may have reduced

the cold. I was so fearful it would turn into bronchitis and I would have to

make that horrible decision about antibiotics.

However I will say since the cold and/or OLE we've noticed a kind of

regression. I guess I'm thinking (hoping...) because her body's fighting this

viral invasion it is a temporary set back.

Thanks,

Kari

Re: OT/Probiotics and asthma

Nell,

>

> In a message dated 1/18/04 7:20:47 PM, jmandmb@y... writes:

>

> << Has anyone here had an

>

> experience with asthma and yeast/bacteria die off?

>

> >>

>

> Definitely. Before I had enough experience to know how much/how

often to give

> them, GSE and OoO sent n into wheezing and the nebulizer. Now

if I see

> the tiniest sniffle, I cut back on whatever to keep the reaction

from getting

> worse.

>

> Nell

Nell,

That is very interesting. What do you attribute it to? Do you think

the endotoxins from die off trigger it? Generally, we have only seen

viral triggers for Zach's asthma, but who's to say what else was

going on in his body? I wonder if yeast/bacteria flare when a virus

is present?

I gave the boys GSE the first couple of days, but now I have backed

off to just the probiotic. I will lower the dose a bit. I guess this

at least tells me that something is happening in his body (I'm

hoping for the positive, that the beneficial gut flora is winning!).

Zach's asthma this evening seems to have calmed, now he is sniffling

and seems like he is coming down with a cold.

This is the first time I have ever aggresively treated him for yeast.

Thanks for the info!

Miti

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If the asthma doesn't settle in about 3 days wouldn't it be wise to consider

his response being from a sensitivity of the product ingredient?

I have a neighbor with asthma symptoms and the medication the doctor

gave her didn't work at all. The doctor said that it was the strongest medicine

and she didn't know what else to do for her. I offered her some of my MSM

because I read that it reduces asthma symptoms in some people. And it

worked for her wonderfully.

MSM is a sulfer supplement and not all of us can metabolize sulfer properly.

Please do a search for more information. I do hope this could help.

Liz D.

OT/Probiotics and asthma

Zach seems to be stabilizing this afternoon, but nights are usually

when his asthma is the worst. If anyone has experience they could

share, or perhaps some links/reading, it would be appreciated.

Best,

Miti

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> Yesterday I saw some pretty severe reactions in the boys. My younger

> son Wyatt had a huge blowout in his diaper, then later a tarry, dark

> stool. His eyes got very puffy with dark circles under them about an

> hour before this occured.I am assuming this is yeast/bacterial die-

> off - I have read about similar syptoms.

For my kids, this would mean they were eating something they did not tolerate.

> However, my older child Zach had the worst asthma attack he has had

> in 1 1/2 years last night. He was wheezing and very croupy. He was

> feverish all morning. I have not added anything to his diet (only

> taken things out) other than the probiotic. Has anyone here had an

> experience with asthma and yeast/bacteria die off?

My kids did not tolerate any probiotics, except Culturelle when they had a

bacteria problem. It might be the probiotic, you can remove

it for a few days, see if that helps.

Or try giving activated charcoal about 30-45 minutes after the probiotic.

Dana