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Why is it my daughter has trouble going to sleep? I think she is in die off

stage, but this is similar to the way she has acted in the past too. (Before

diet modification; supplements; enzymes). She expresses it as wanting to " rock

and roll " but really her body is over tired. Actually I almost think it happens

worse when her body is most fatigued. We are on break so it's not so bad, but

some school mornings are like torture. I tried epson salt bathes and am not so

sure she has a phenol issue. I want to SCREAM at her, (and have...), but

surprise surprise that does no good either...

What is this from? Or maybe it's just a case of feeling bad, but when I have

the flu all I want to do is sleep so not sure.

Thanks,

Kari

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> Why is it my daughter has trouble going to sleep?

Usually phenol intolerance or yeast. Can also be certain foods and/or

supplements.

>> I think she is in die off stage, but this is similar to the way she has

acted in the past too. (Before diet modification; supplements;

enzymes). She expresses it as wanting to " rock and roll " but really her body is

over tired. Actually I almost think it happens worse

when her body is most fatigued. We are on break so it's not so bad, but some

school mornings are like torture. I tried epson salt

bathes and am not so sure she has a phenol issue.

Try reducing phenol foods, and/or No-Fenol enzyme

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

http://www.houstonni.com/

Dana

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1/2 mg of melatonin an hour or so prior to bedtime is the only thing that

has helped my daughter get to sleep at night. RDA Magnesium also seems to

help her sleepwalking issues overall. She used to sleepwalk nightly until

recently, but I am seeing improvement gradually. Much less anxiety at night.

Serena

On 12/26/03 10:21 PM, " Kari Trautman " <karitrautman@...> wrote:

> Why is it my daughter has trouble going to sleep? I think she is in die off

> stage, but this is similar to the way she has acted in the past too. (Before

> diet modification; supplements; enzymes). She expresses it as wanting to

> " rock and roll " but really her body is over tired. Actually I almost think it

> happens worse when her body is most fatigued. We are on break so it's not so

> bad, but some school mornings are like torture. I tried epson salt bathes and

> am not so sure she has a phenol issue. I want to SCREAM at her, (and

> have...), but surprise surprise that does no good either...

> What is this from? Or maybe it's just a case of feeling bad, but when I have

> the flu all I want to do is sleep so not sure.

> Thanks,

> Kari

>

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Kari,

I have recently begun giving some Melatonin (spray) before bed. It

used to take him at least an hour to fall asleep--this was with giving him epsom

salt baths and magnesium. Now, he goes to sleep within 15 minutes. He also

seems to be more awake when he gets up in the morning.

Robin

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In a message dated 12/27/03 10:19:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,

pbarrett@... writes:

> Hi Robin,

> Do you still do the baths and the magnesium? Who manufacturers the spray??

> Pam

Pam,

We still do the baths--almost daily. Today we actually used the epsom salt

cream a couple of times--today was not a great day but hopefully just a blip in

mostly good days. We find it to be very helpful.

I give him the magnesium about once weekly. I think he needs it more often

but he really balks about taking it. I need to find the magnesium pills

referred to earlier and then i will give it to him daily. Right now we use the

Natural Calm which dissolves in liquid. This is a kid who actually will swallow

five Perfect Food and five Goatein tablets daily--they are gross. He also

really hates the Primal Defense but he will swallow one daily and then i give a

Culterelle as well. So, my point is, I put his Natural Calm in lemonade and he

still won't drink it without a fight--go figure.

The Melatonin has a peppermint flavor and is found at www.vitamist.com. There

is alcohol in it and natural fruit juice so if your child is extremely

sensitive to phenols, there may be a better product out there for you.

does

really well with it and he likes it so I will continue using it.

HTH,

Robin

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Hi Robin,

Do you still do the baths and the magnesium? Who manufacturers the spray??

Pam

At 06:27 PM 12/27/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>Kari,

>

>I have recently begun giving some Melatonin (spray) before bed. It

>used to take him at least an hour to fall asleep--this was with giving him

>epsom

>salt baths and magnesium. Now, he goes to sleep within 15 minutes. He also

>seems to be more awake when he gets up in the morning.

>

>Robin

>

>

>

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Serena,

I tried the melatonin tonight and it worked like magic. Kind of felt like I was

drugging her, but she is really not feeling well going through die off and all

so it was nice to see her at least crash out.

Dana you are right then it would be yeast if this is common. But just wondering

if anyone knows why? Or maybe it's just one of the side effects that goes with

the problem.

Thanks,

Kari

Re: Insomnia/sleeping

1/2 mg of melatonin an hour or so prior to bedtime is the only thing that

has helped my daughter get to sleep at night. RDA Magnesium also seems to

help her sleepwalking issues overall. She used to sleepwalk nightly until

recently, but I am seeing improvement gradually. Much less anxiety at night.

Serena

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Robin this is your old email so writing you private ly hope you dont mind.

wanted to know is melatonin safe and where do you buy them? my son doesnt like

to go to sleep until i sleep with him, sleeps v late and tires me out he sleeps

at 11 o clock do you think this will help?

TIA

seema

In a message dated 27/12/2003 23:29:48 GMT Standard Time, JCKRPF@...

writes:

> have recently begun giving some Melatonin (spray) before bed. It

> used to take him at least an hour to fall asleep--this was with giving him

> epsom

> salt baths and magnesium. Now, he goes to sleep within 15 minutes. He also

> seems to be more awake when he gets up in the morning.

>

> Robin

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Seema

I have been giving my son Melatonin since he was 7yo (he's now 16) and

have never had any problems with it. As a matter of fact I make darned sure

to never run out! We use the Source Naturals 2.5mg sublinguals. I started

dissolving them in a little water and adding to his juice until one day he came

up to me, put his hand out and gave he this look that said " who do you think

you're fooling, just give me the pill! " Ever since he just takes it no problem.

Laurie

> Robin this is your old email so writing you private ly hope you dont mind.

> wanted to know is melatonin safe and where do you buy them? my son

doesnt like

> to go to sleep until i sleep with him, sleeps v late and tires me out he

sleeps

> at 11 o clock do you think this will help?

>

> TIA

> seema

>

>

> In a message dated 27/12/2003 23:29:48 GMT Standard Time,

JCKRPF@a...

> writes:

>

>

> > have recently begun giving some Melatonin (spray) before bed. It

> > used to take him at least an hour to fall asleep--this was with giving him

> > epsom

> > salt baths and magnesium. Now, he goes to sleep within 15 minutes. He

also

> > seems to be more awake when he gets up in the morning.

> >

> > Robin

>

>

>

>

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