Re: Digest Number 7003

[Guest guest]

Dear Sharon,

Please visit the Safe Harbor website. www.alternativementalhealth.com

International Guide to the world of alternative mental health. Great articles.

Just don't lose hope.

They recommend the Meyers cocktail (has glutathione), Andy may not approve. But

it is used for S, ADD, dementia. Helped me a great deal to get started. Did

about 5 IV's total. Now that I'm chelating TD-DMPS, I stopped them, cause they

may have contributed to me reversing.

Great post from . Alison here, 46, misdiagnosised with bi-polar 12 years

ago. Permanent disability. MUCH BETTER, SYMPTOM FREE LAST 2 YEARS.

Was INSTEAD caused by bio-chemical imbalance, bugs, herpes virus, food

allergies, mold. Caused by mercury. 14 amalgams over 36 years.

Are you giving him any wheat? If I look at wheat, even though I am now symptom

free. I will get VERY uncontrollably angry, not pretty. Keep it away, I'm

perfect.

I was on lots of pyche meds. after 12 years they did nothing but hurt my liver

and ruin my health. That said Depakote helps with seizures and is " safe " for

kids. I think maybe to use as bandaids some pharmecuticals are sometimes

necessary, temporarily. I'd try killing bugs and supplements first.

For me killings bad bugs, getting out of a toxic mold cottage, supplements,

supplements, did I say supplements? And chelation helped.

Specifically I think the zinc. Maybe do a hairtest/mineral check. But right away

I'd do a GFCF diet and cut out ALL and anything artificial. I eat ONLY organics.

He doesn't have a deficiency in pysche meds. but he may have copper/zinc

imbalance. Safe harbor site talks about the pyloria test as well. I have the

kit, $40.00 easy to do.

I sound fine now, but I was out of my mind at times and 2 years ago when I

called 911 in an anaphyalactic state I was put on a weekend pysche hold. I

refused all meds and got out. But I appeared VERY manic, I admit it. Suffice it

to say I'm NOT AL ALL NOW, so that should give you some hope.

Diet is huge for me. Probably until all the mercury is out. But even after that

supplementing will probably always be necessary. Pain but there it is. My

natural Mom (adopted) appeared S to me when I met her and from stories. BUT she

also had a mouthful of metal, for years.

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE CORRECTABLE POWER OF CHEMICAL IMBALANCE. I am living

proof. But for years struggled with much insanity.

I would not have known getting herpes, 20 years ago causes pyschiatrict

disorders or other bugs cause these disorders, like lyme, which I have. It

stands to reason. If someone is peeing, pooing and dying in your brain that the

acids will make you nuts.

Bio-Set helped me tremendously, There I was given antifungals (and many other

things) and I take Vit C. 3x's a day to neutralize the off gasing,

Bio-Set helped me to desensitize alot, food, mold, etc.

I agree with on the behavioral stuff. Stay as calm as you can in the

face of chaos, change his focus to something else. Sometimes works. Putting

stuff on top of the refrigerator for my son worked too. Taking away favorite

stuff, temporarily.

With my 6 year old (gave him all shots but kinder booster) if he is not on

metagenics chewable vitamin he has behavioral issues. They have all b's in them.

Personality change without these. And he is on strick diet as well. On his own

he really doesn't deviate from it. He knows the consequences, bad moods, throw

up.

AVOID ALL SUGAR, SODA. You probably already do if you've gotten to this board.

So these are some of my tips. Oh and in Bernard Shaw's book, I got from Andy's

site it mentions apples. Great book. I stay away from anything apple and have no

mood swings. I also gave up on anything rice related, and lost all mood swings.

So am I bi-polar? I say no. Do I appear bi-polar/S if I eat wrong foods? I'd

have to say I would still exibit some issues, but now that I'm on my 12th round

of chelation much anxiety is gone. It's a big deal. Chelation works along side

these other things.

For me I weaned myself off the pysche meds with pot. ARI website talks about

marinol (active ingredient in pot) www.autismwebsite.com (I think that's their

site) being more effective and less damaging than ritilan. I'd try that. Great

article on their site on this.

Violent behavior IS part of mercury poisoning, just look into our prison system.

YOU CAN GET THROUGH THIS AND HAVE A GREAT CHILD BACK. We are all here for you,

and I know for one, this is not REALLY your son, he is being consumed/possessed

by a chemical reaction. Have faith.

If I can get through the crap I've been through AND SHINE NOW, you can do this.

Vit C to neutralize whatever you're gonna kill is paramount, and the Meyer's

cocktail went a long way for me. Safe Harbor is a great website.

Can you find an Integrative Dr. near you? I usually go to metagenics website and

look for practitioners in the area, under " products " www.metagenics.com. And

find an MD that's using their products, chances are they'll be up on chelation

and other necessary protocols.

Much love. Alison. Peace.

Take care of yourself too. Soo important when you have kids. : )

Message: 10

Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 23:31:18 -0400

From: " Sharon son " <sharon@...>

Subject: Misdiagnosis - Not Autism but Schizophrenia

Has anyone else encountered a possible " misdiagnosis " ? We're being told

my

son is now schizophrenic and not Autistic. Due to the violent behaviors,

thoughts, threats to our family (he's only 5), out-of-body flying

experiences, talking to " friends " with whom he has full blown conversations

about seeing my daughter floating in a pool of blood and eating out her

heart and stomach, ad nauseum, we've been told by supposedly the " best "

interdisciplinary team. In fact, we've been on their waiting list for 6

months trying to get an appointment. In talking with them yesterday on the

phone, while they got details about what I was hoping to come out of the

program they told me point blank they had nothing to offer us because in

treating " thousands of children we simply have nothing that will help your

son because nothing you've told us is Autism. They say that they can't do a

thing for him and that we must look into a residential psychiatric

evaluation program which is 24/7 for 3 months. I'm still shaking my head

at this turn of events picturing the meds, etc., their ramifications - it

just seems insane to me to add meds on top of everything because I am NOT

convinced that meds do anything but " control " the behavior while potentially

permanently and detrimentally changing the brain chemistry and structure.

Is there no other hope? Any and all advice is needed. I mean.how in the

world can one go about detoxing and good diet practices while loading them

up with meds. Not even sure what to ask...I mean, geez...he's 2nd year

into an extensive IEP and OT with teachers who all claim he's exceptionally

bright with a highly tuned " imagination " , etc., and blame US for

" reinforcing " his behaviors, telling us it is simply " play "

on his part.

Tell that to my daughter who has suffered numerous egg-sized bumps on her

heads, bites from him, and has been told repeatedly he's going to knife her

to death. The only way she sleeps well is in our room at night with the

door locked. He wants me and only me. He is extremely obedient to me,

extremely belligerent to teachers, husband and daughter and really would be

happy 24/7 with only me. Does anyone here have a child on schizophrenia,

bi-polar therapy in addition to detoxing??? TIA

-Sharon, NH

Deut 11:14 He will put grass in the fields for your cattle, and you will

have plenty to eat.

[Guest guest]

Sharon,

We don't just jump from diagnosis to diagnosis, but the older my son gets the

more little problems or difficulties morph into other things (or more of them!).

It's kind of frustrating. (Only days ago my son started some weird tics and now

I'm worried that on top of everything else we may eventually have to add a

diagnosis of Tourettes! The list just grows. :-(

My maternal grandfather had schizophrenia. Although I never did know him, from

what I've learned, as better medication was developed, he was able to lead a

very normal life. I sometimes wonder if other people in my family will develop

this. I've been told it's genetic.I can understand how difficult this must be.

Definitely keep looking at other possible answers for your son, this diagnosis

may also be incorrect (I know ours keeps changing!). But also keep in mind, even

if it's correct, there are many options these days. Treatments, medication,

etc.. are constantly improving. I feel the same way as you about meds, I've

spent enormous time and effort to avoid using them with my kids and have only

relented after exhausting every other possiblity. Unfortunately, there have been

times I had no other choise. And ultimately, that's okay. I know I've done my

best to always try to do what's in the very best interest for my children. I

believe you're doing the same.

Tess

Message: 10

Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 23:31:18 -0400

From: " Sharon son " <sharon@...>

Subject: Misdiagnosis - Not Autism but Schizophrenia

Has anyone else encountered a possible " misdiagnosis " ? We're being

told my

son is now schizophrenic and not Autistic. Due to the violent

behaviors,

thoughts, threats to our family (he's only 5), out-of-body flying

experiences, talking to " friends " with whom he has full blown

conversations

about seeing my daughter floating in a pool of blood and eating out her

heart and stomach, ad nauseum, we've been told by supposedly the " best "

interdisciplinary team. In fact, we've been on their waiting list for

6

months trying to get an appointment. In talking with them yesterday on

the

phone, while they got details about what I was hoping to come out of

the

program they told me point blank they had nothing to offer us because

in

treating " thousands of children we simply have nothing that will help

your

son because nothing you've told us is Autism. They say that they can't

do a

thing for him and that we must look into a residential psychiatric

evaluation program which is 24/7 for 3 months. I'm still shaking my

head

at this turn of events picturing the meds, etc., their ramifications -

it

just seems insane to me to add meds on top of everything because I am

NOT

convinced that meds do anything but " control " the behavior while

potentially

permanently and detrimentally changing the brain chemistry and

structure.

Is there no other hope? Any and all advice is needed. I mean.how in

the

world can one go about detoxing and good diet practices while loading

them

up with meds. Not even sure what to ask...I mean, geez...he's 2nd

year

into an extensive IEP and OT with teachers who all claim he's

exceptionally

bright with a highly tuned " imagination " , etc., and blame US for

" reinforcing " his behaviors, telling us it is simply " play " on his

part.

Tell that to my daughter who has suffered numerous egg-sized bumps on

her

heads, bites from him, and has been told repeatedly he's going to knife

her

to death. The only way she sleeps well is in our room at night with

the

door locked. He wants me and only me. He is extremely obedient to

me,

extremely belligerent to teachers, husband and daughter and really

would be

happy 24/7 with only me. Does anyone here have a child on

schizophrenia,

bi-polar therapy in addition to detoxing??? TIA

-Sharon, NH

Deut 11:14 He will put grass in the fields for your cattle, and you

will

have plenty to eat.

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