Re: gut healing

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People that haven't had success with GFCFSF have usually either had success with

SCD or Body Ecology. I knwo your struggle. I have a firend whose som only eats

waffles and they are stuggling to get him on SCD because GFCFSF has not helped

at all. I wish you luck.

Ruth

albiard <albiard@...> wrote:

i am frustrated. i thought that going gfcfsf would allow the gut to

heal.we have been on diet 16 months. i really see little difference in

gut . without rotating yeast killers she remains quite constipated.

her food choices never increased and rather we are down to about 6-7

tolerated foods now. we tried houstons but had to stop them when

trying to eliminate excema.if the offending items are removed why does

the gut not improve? what should i do to help the gi lining heal. my

dan reccommended something called ultraclear sustain but it must be in

8 oz of chilled juice or water. there is no way i can get this in,

wont take juice at all or anything in water, and certainly not 8 oz.

have i mentioned how very picky my annie is, quite the princess and

the pea with foods. any suggestion would be greatly appreciated, annie

has seizures so lecithin, gse, borage and epo are out. thanks...teresa c

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> i am frustrated. i thought that going gfcfsf would allow the gut to

> heal.we have been on diet 16 months. i really see little difference in

> gut

If the gut is leaky, then molecules of whatever food is eaten sneak

through the intestinal tract and float around in the body, which

recognizes these bits as invaders -- so an intolerance develops. It's

not that there's anything especially terrible about gluten and casein,

it's that usually that's what people eat a lot of, so if the gut

becomes leaky, that's what the body sensitizes to. If you go gfcf but

have no variety then there's a good chance eventually the body won't

tolerate the gfcf food either, which is what a rotation diet tries to

avoid.

Enzymes do promote gut healing and can allow for a wider variety of

foods to be eaten, so IMO that's the only way out of the leaky gut

nightmare.

Nell

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Have you thought about e-mailing Devin Houston about the enzymes and eczema?

I just began to try BrainChild's Intestimend (sample size) for my child who

has gut issues. He is also on AFP Peptyzide and the No Fenol too. Can you

get any kind of Omega 3 fatty acids in? This should help with eczema as

well. The No Fenol helps to prevent yeast too. Just some thought to e-mail

Devin as he is really great with responding.

Jackie---

> albiard <albiard@...> wrote:

> i am frustrated. i thought that going gfcfsf would allow the gut to

> heal.we have been on diet 16 months. i really see little difference in

> gut . without rotating yeast killers she remains quite constipated.

> her food choices never increased and rather we are down to about 6-7

> tolerated foods now. we tried houstons but had to stop them when

> trying to eliminate excema.if the offending items are removed why does

> the gut not improve? what should i do to help the gi lining heal. my

> dan reccommended something called ultraclear sustain but it must be in

> 8 oz of chilled juice or water. there is no way i can get this in,

> wont take juice at all or anything in water, and certainly not 8 oz.

> have i mentioned how very picky my annie is, quite the princess and

> the pea with foods. any suggestion would be greatly appreciated, annie

> has seizures so lecithin, gse, borage and epo are out. thanks...teresa c

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> i am frustrated. i thought that going gfcfsf would allow the gut to

> heal.we have been on diet 16 months. i really see little difference >in

> gut .

What are her gut symptoms?

> without rotating yeast killers she remains quite constipated.

Are you able to get her to take magnesium and vitamin C several times

per day. Both will help the gut to heal and both will releave the

constipation at a high enough dose.

> her food choices never increased and rather we are down to about >6-7

> tolerated foods now.

Is she getting any protein or source of amino acids?

> we tried houstons but had to stop them when

> trying to eliminate excema.if the offending items are removed why >does

> the gut not improve? what should i do to help the gi lining heal. >my

> dan reccommended something called ultraclear sustain but it must be >in

> 8 oz of chilled juice or water. there is no way i can get this in,

> wont take juice at all or anything in water, and certainly not 8 >oz.

What about putting it in some sort of blender drink with rice milk or

almond mild and fresh fruit?

> have i mentioned how very picky my annie is, quite the princess and

> the pea with foods.

I know, my son was like that. For a long time the only thing he would

eat was chicken soup with teeny tiny bits of vegetables and rice

cooked until it was disintegrated.

>any suggestion would be greatly appreciated, annie

> has seizures so lecithin, gse, borage and epo are out.

Can she tolerate any type of fish oil, cod liver oil, or any source of

omega 3?

thanks...teresa c

[Guest guest]

i spoke with them twice and you are right they are very kind and

helpful. i plan based on responses to slowly start back hni,vit c mg+,

and try the sustain from metagenics. thankyou you to all who

responded...teresa c

> > i am frustrated. i thought that going gfcfsf would allow the gut to

> > heal.we have been on diet 16 months. i really see little difference in

> > gut . without rotating yeast killers she remains quite constipated.

> > her food choices never increased and rather we are down to about 6-7

> > tolerated foods now. we tried houstons but had to stop them when

> > trying to eliminate excema.if the offending items are removed why does

> > the gut not improve? what should i do to help the gi lining heal. my

> > dan reccommended something called ultraclear sustain but it must be in

> > 8 oz of chilled juice or water. there is no way i can get this in,

> > wont take juice at all or anything in water, and certainly not 8 oz.

> > have i mentioned how very picky my annie is, quite the princess and

> > the pea with foods. any suggestion would be greatly appreciated, annie

> > has seizures so lecithin, gse, borage and epo are out.

thanks...teresa c

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> i am frustrated. i thought that going gfcfsf would allow the gut to

> heal.

My son needed ALA chelation, HNI enzymes, and B vitamins to heal his gut.

>>if the offending items are removed why does

> the gut not improve?

Because other things [like metals, B vitamin deficiency, etc] are the

underlying cause.

Dana

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Oh, that is such wonderful news ! I have a friend with IBS and I suggested

Iodine to her and she just looked at me like I was nuts... I will mention it to

her again. I wonder if it heals ulcers too? Anyone?

JOT

Now, after about 2 months of taking Iodoral, I am regular for

the first time in my life.

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Please don't confuse balanced hormones with a healed gut.

This is what I have learned. I too became a lot

less constipated after being on Iodoral, thus increasing thyroid

hormone.

As I also tweaked my Naturethroid I found that too much gave me

diarrea & not enough gave me

constipation. Thus I was enlightened to the fact that hormone balance

effects bowels/metabolism.

Meanwhile, now after almost two years on iodoral & I have near normal

thyroid hormone

levels, my gut is still not healed & I know that is what I need to

tackle next.

Meaning, I still have bloating, belly fat & parasites & all the

probiotics in the world

won't balance the gut until one gets rid of parasites. So, needless to

say, I have yet to heal the gut,

not to mention I have leaky gut syndrome & thus vitamin deficiency's.

So I caution you not to confuse regular bowel movements with a healed

gut.

Ali

On Apr 12, 2010, at 4:00 PM, jean terry wrote:

> Hmmm interesting. Makes me wonder if the same is not happening for

> me also.

> Seems like my gut is working better than it has in many years in

> that I have

> no loose stools anymore unless I take quite a lot of salt and/or mag.

> jean

>

>> hooray-good news--thanks for sharing Joy. I have also thought

>> iodine can

>> only be healing for the gut.

>> Gracia

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for this insight. Makes sense as I think about it too.

On the paracite note have you ever heard of using a zapper?

jean

Please don't confuse balanced hormones with a healed gut.This is what I have learned. I too became a lotless constipated after being on Iodoral, thus increasing thyroid hormone.As I also tweaked my Naturethroid I found that too much gave me diarrea & not enough gave meconstipation. Thus I was enlightened to the fact that hormone balance effects bowels/metabolism.Meanwhile, now after almost two years on iodoral & I have near normal thyroid hormonelevels, my gut is still not healed & I know that is what I need to tackle next.Meaning, I still have bloating, belly fat & parasites & all the probiotics in the worldwon't balance the gut until one gets rid of parasites. So, needless to say, I have yet to heal the gut,not to mention I have leaky gut syndrome & thus vitamin deficiency's.So I caution you not to confuse regular bowel movements with a healed gut.AliOn Apr 12, 2010, at 4:00 PM, jean terry wrote:> Hmmm interesting. Makes me wonder if the same is not happening for > me also.> Seems like my gut is working better than it has in many years in > that I have> no loose stools anymore unless I take quite a lot of salt and/or mag.> jean>>> hooray-good news--thanks for sharing Joy. I have also thought >> iodine can>> only be healing for the gut.>> Gracia>>>> JOY SMITH wrote:>>>>>> Hi:>>>>>> New here,been lurking. Noticed a little debate about whether iodine>>> heals the gut. Here is my personal experience. Have had irritable>>> bowel all my life. Alternating bouts of constipation and diarrhea. >>> Up>>> to 8 week long episodes of diarrhea brought on by stress and hot>>> weather. Now, after about 2 months of taking Iodoral, I am regular >>> for>>> the first time in my life.>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------->>> Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from >>> your>>> inbox. Learn more.>>> <http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------>>>> All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group>> IodineOT/>>>>>> Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e >> Groups Links>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------->>>> No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2806 - Release Date: > 04/12/10> 06:32:00>>>> ------------------------------------>> All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/>>> Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e > Links>>>

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Once I eliminated gluten...and actually all grains now that I think back...all

of my IBS-D symptoms and many others like 24/7 full-body itching disappeared and

haven't returned since. I'm not doubting iodine, I haven't yet begun the iodine

protocol yet.

>

> Oh, that is such wonderful news ! I have a friend with IBS and I suggested

Iodine to her and she just looked at me like I was nuts... I will mention it to

her again. I wonder if it heals ulcers too? Anyone?

[Guest guest]

HI ,That's great! The elimination of symptoms is wonderful. But consider this: your symptoms are gone, but the residual damage brought on from the foods or toxins might still be there and would benefit from the use of the iodine protocol.Think of it this way: someone accidentally parks their car on your foot. Now, the car has considerable weight, so naturally it hurts. The driver of the car sees you, realizes the problem, and removes the car from your foot. So, you are healed now, right? Does your foot still hurt? The car is no longer on your foot, so you should be better, right?So, even though the source of your problem has been removed and you feel better, the iodine protocol can help to heal the residual damage to your

gut.Regards, BastidaFrom: W <coralskies@...>Subject: Re: Gut healingiodine Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 5:29 AM

Once I eliminated gluten...and actually all grains now that I think back...all of my IBS-D symptoms and many others like 24/7 full-body itching disappeared and haven't returned since. I'm not doubting iodine, I haven't yet begun the iodine protocol yet.

>

> Oh, that is such wonderful news ! I have a friend with IBS and I suggested Iodine to her and she just looked at me like I was nuts... I will mention it to her again. I wonder if it heals ulcers too? Anyone?

[Guest guest]

HI ,That's great! The elimination of symptoms is wonderful. But consider this: your symptoms are gone, but the residual damage brought on from the foods or toxins might still be there and would benefit from the use of the iodine protocol.Think of it this way: someone accidentally parks their car on your foot. Now, the car has considerable weight, so naturally it hurts. The driver of the car sees you, realizes the problem, and removes the car from your foot. So, you are healed now, right? Does your foot still hurt? The car is no longer on your foot, so you should be better, right?So, even though the source of your problem has been removed and you feel better, the iodine protocol can help to heal the residual damage to your

gut.Regards, BastidaFrom: W <coralskies@...>Subject: Re: Gut healingiodine Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 5:29 AM

Once I eliminated gluten...and actually all grains now that I think back...all of my IBS-D symptoms and many others like 24/7 full-body itching disappeared and haven't returned since. I'm not doubting iodine, I haven't yet begun the iodine protocol yet.

>

> Oh, that is such wonderful news ! I have a friend with IBS and I suggested Iodine to her and she just looked at me like I was nuts... I will mention it to her again. I wonder if it heals ulcers too? Anyone?

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks, I'm just waiting for my Iodoral to arrive.

I'm also doing a specific diet for detox and it's quite powerful...to the point

that sometimes I have to back off for a bit to ease the symptoms. I think my

goiter growing could have something to do with my drinking Brita filtered tap

water, eating more goitrogens and not eating as much fish (got to learn to cook

that better at home than I do). The author of the program believes that it

takes one month for every year one has been ill to fully heal. She says some

have been sick since birth as I was. So I've got about five years on her

program to go before I'm technically 100%. She also believes our bodies

re-trace back to health meaning that we can experience less-intense episodes

similar to illnesses and injuries we've experienced during our lifetimes. It's

quite interesting especially when you experience it for yourself.

So I've got a LONG way to go!

>

> HI ,

> That's great! The elimination of symptoms is wonderful.  But consider this:

your symptoms are gone, but the residual damage brought on from the foods or

toxins might still be there and would benefit from the use of the iodine

protocol.

[Guest guest]

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for most of those people, H. pylori causes them little or no problem. Many of them, however, are not so lucky and suffer a range of digestive symptoms and disorders that may be linked to their infection, such as indigestion, heartburn, gastritis (inflammation of the stomach),

peptic ulcers,* and stomach cancer. The correlation with ulcers is particularly strong: H.

pylori infection causes more that 90% of duodenal ulcers and up to 80% of gastric ulcers. DennisFrom: W <coralskies@...>Subject: Re: Gut healingiodine Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 6:58 PM

Hi ,

Thanks, I'm just waiting for my Iodoral to arrive.

I'm also doing a specific diet for detox and it's quite powerful...to the point that sometimes I have to back off for a bit to ease the symptoms. I think my goiter growing could have something to do with my drinking Brita filtered tap water, eating more goitrogens and not eating as much fish (got to learn to cook that better at home than I do). The author of the program believes that it takes one month for every year one has been ill to fully heal. She says some have been sick since birth as I was. So I've got about five years on her program to go before I'm technically 100%. She also believes our bodies re-trace back to health meaning that we can experience less-intense episodes similar to illnesses and injuries we've experienced during our lifetimes. It's quite interesting especially when you experience it for yourself.

So I've got a LONG way to go!

>

> HI ,

> That's great! The elimination of symptoms is wonderful. Â But consider this: your symptoms are gone, but the residual damage brought on from the foods or toxins might still be there and would benefit from the use of the iodine protocol.

[Guest guest]

,What diet are you following to detox? And how much Iodoral do you take?DianeFrom: W <coralskiesymail (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Gut healingiodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 6:58 PM

Hi ,

Thanks, I'm just waiting for my Iodoral to arrive.

I'm also doing a specific diet for detox and it's quite powerful...to the point that sometimes I have to back off for a bit to ease the symptoms. I think my goiter growing could have something to do with my drinking Brita filtered tap water, eating more goitrogens and not eating as much fish (got to learn to cook that better at home than I do). The author of the program believes that it takes one month for every year one has been ill to fully heal. She says some have been sick since birth as I was. So I've got about five years on her program to go before I'm technically 100%. She also believes our bodies re-trace back to health meaning that we can experience less-intense episodes similar to illnesses and injuries we've experienced during our lifetimes. It's quite interesting especially when you experience it for yourself.

So I've got a LONG way to go!

>

> HI ,

> That's great! The elimination of symptoms is wonderful. Â But consider this: your symptoms are gone, but the residual damage brought on from the foods or toxins might still be there and would benefit from the use of the iodine protocol.

[Guest guest]

another question- how did Britta water cause your goiter to grow? Just curious because I drink Britta water. DianeFrom: W <coralskiesymail (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Gut healingiodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 6:58 PM

Hi ,

Thanks, I'm just waiting for my Iodoral to arrive.

I'm also doing a specific diet for detox and it's quite powerful...to the point that sometimes I have to back off for a bit to ease the symptoms. I think my goiter growing could have something to do with my drinking Brita filtered tap water, eating more goitrogens and not eating as much fish (got to learn to cook that better at home than I do). The author of the program believes that it takes one month for every year one has been ill to fully heal. She says some have been sick since birth as I was. So I've got about five years on her program to go before I'm technically 100%. She also believes our bodies re-trace back to health meaning that we can experience less-intense episodes similar to illnesses and injuries we've experienced during our lifetimes. It's quite interesting especially when you experience it for yourself.

So I've got a LONG way to go!

>

> HI ,

> That's great! The elimination of symptoms is wonderful. Â But consider this: your symptoms are gone, but the residual damage brought on from the foods or toxins might still be there and would benefit from the use of the iodine protocol.