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Sally:

Now that the Coconut Flour is available, for those allergic to wheat, that would

be a nice alternative.

Bonnie

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>

>

> In a message dated 10/15/2006 12:35:15 P.M. Pacific Standard

Time,

> sally.hoffman@... writes:

>

> o

> processed foods and have started to make my own bread because

> supermarket bread has soya in and vegetable fats

> Beth,

I just use strong wholemeal bread flour i buy from the supermarket.

There was a receipe on the packet and on the yeast packet. I've

just bought a bread making machine and am using receipe from the

book that came with it. I've had to adapt it because they use

sunflower oil and skimmed milk powder. You can you vco or butter

instead of the oil. It seems a bit unnecessary to grind your own

flour and seems a right hassle. Is there any particular reason that

you are doing it from scratch. Why do you have to soak the grains?

I'm not that bothered about avoiding carbs myself, just don't eat to

many, and everything in moderation. I just want to avoid the bad

oils and soya which is not good for your thyroid. If you make things

to difficult and complicated for yourself you will just stress

yourself out. Keep it simple, and be aware of portion size. Use

smaller dinner plate if that helps and eat slowly and be aware of

every mouthful. And chew every mouthful lots of times.(got that from

Mckenna's book.)

Goodnight

Sally.

>

> That is great you have lost some weight on it! That is always

encouraging to

> hear!

>

> Would you mind sharing your bread recipe? I was reading on

soaking your

> grains and since I do not have my own mill I am not sure how to do

that or if I

> even can. I have been going down to a supermarket that has a mill

and doing it

> that way. I just got back a bit ago from grinding some flour and

have some

> whole wheat bread in process as I type! I do try to stay away from

store bought

> bread and even our co-op uses canola oil in theirs so try to stay

away from

> that as well.

>

> I hate to totally give up healthy carbs..I eat steel cut oats in

the morning

> with vco and flax seed and was adding a bit of walnuts....but

wondering if I

> should give up the walnuts....I do not drink milk very often at

all...I do

> buy organic for my daughter but now reading raw is better...so

confusing!

>

> Beth

>

>

>

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> >

> >

> > In a message dated 10/15/2006 12:35:15 P.M. Pacific Standard

> Time,

> > sally.hoffman@ writes:

> >

> > o

> > processed foods and have started to make my own bread because

> > supermarket bread has soya in and vegetable fats

> > Beth,

> I just use strong wholemeal bread flour i buy from the

supermarket.

> There was a receipe on the packet and on the yeast packet. I've

> just bought a bread making machine and am using receipe from the

> book that came with it. I've had to adapt it because they use

> sunflower oil and skimmed milk powder. You can you vco or butter

> instead of the oil. It seems a bit unnecessary to grind your own

> flour and seems a right hassle. Is there any particular reason

that

> you are doing it from scratch. Why do you have to soak the

grains?

> I'm not that bothered about avoiding carbs myself, just don't

eat to

> many, and everything in moderation. I just want to avoid the bad

> oils and soya which is not good for your thyroid. If you make

things

> to difficult and complicated for yourself you will just stress

> yourself out. Keep it simple, and be aware of portion size. Use

> smaller dinner plate if that helps and eat slowly and be aware

of

> every mouthful. And chew every mouthful lots of times.(got that

from

> Mckenna's book.)

> Goodnight

> Sally.

> >

> > That is great you have lost some weight on it! That is always

> encouraging to

> > hear!

> >

> > Would you mind sharing your bread recipe? I was reading on

> soaking your

> > grains and since I do not have my own mill I am not sure how

to do

> that or if I

> > even can. I have been going down to a supermarket that has a

mill

> and doing it

> > that way. I just got back a bit ago from grinding some flour

and

> have some

> > whole wheat bread in process as I type! I do try to stay away

from

> store bought

> > bread and even our co-op uses canola oil in theirs so try to

stay

> away from

> > that as well.

> >

> > I hate to totally give up healthy carbs..I eat steel cut oats

in

> the morning

> > with vco and flax seed and was adding a bit of walnuts....but

> wondering if I

> > should give up the walnuts....I do not drink milk very often

at

> all...I do

> > buy organic for my daughter but now reading raw is better...so

> confusing!

> >

> > Beth

> >

> >

> >

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Sally:

Go to this website for ordering the flour http://www.simplycoconut.com/ and

they probably also have the shredded unsweetened coconut as well.

If you do contact them, ask them if they have the book Cooking with Coconut

Flour, I bet they do. It's not like any other flour you're used to using. You

have to follow these recipes closely.

Bonnie

Re: New to this

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 10/15/2006 12:35:15 P.M. Pacific Standard

> Time,

> > sally.hoffman@ writes:

> >

> > o

> > processed foods and have started to make my own bread because

> > supermarket bread has soya in and vegetable fats

> > Beth,

> I just use strong wholemeal bread flour i buy from the

supermarket.

> There was a receipe on the packet and on the yeast packet. I've

> just bought a bread making machine and am using receipe from the

> book that came with it. I've had to adapt it because they use

> sunflower oil and skimmed milk powder. You can you vco or butter

> instead of the oil. It seems a bit unnecessary to grind your own

> flour and seems a right hassle. Is there any particular reason

that

> you are doing it from scratch. Why do you have to soak the

grains?

> I'm not that bothered about avoiding carbs myself, just don't

eat to

> many, and everything in moderation. I just want to avoid the bad

> oils and soya which is not good for your thyroid. If you make

things

> to difficult and complicated for yourself you will just stress

> yourself out. Keep it simple, and be aware of portion size. Use

> smaller dinner plate if that helps and eat slowly and be aware

of

> every mouthful. And chew every mouthful lots of times.(got that

from

> Mckenna's book.)

> Goodnight

> Sally.

> >

> > That is great you have lost some weight on it! That is always

> encouraging to

> > hear!

> >

> > Would you mind sharing your bread recipe? I was reading on

> soaking your

> > grains and since I do not have my own mill I am not sure how

to do

> that or if I

> > even can. I have been going down to a supermarket that has a

mill

> and doing it

> > that way. I just got back a bit ago from grinding some flour

and

> have some

> > whole wheat bread in process as I type! I do try to stay away

from

> store bought

> > bread and even our co-op uses canola oil in theirs so try to

stay

> away from

> > that as well.

> >

> > I hate to totally give up healthy carbs..I eat steel cut oats

in

> the morning

> > with vco and flax seed and was adding a bit of walnuts....but

> wondering if I

> > should give up the walnuts....I do not drink milk very often

at

> all...I do

> > buy organic for my daughter but now reading raw is better...so

> confusing!

> >

> > Beth

> >

> >

> >

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> >

> > In a message dated 10/15/2006 12:35:15 P.M. Pacific Standard

> Time,

> > sally.hoffman@ writes:

> >

> > o

> > processed foods and have started to make my own bread because

> > supermarket bread has soya in and vegetable fats

> > Beth,

> I just use strong wholemeal bread flour i buy from the

supermarket.

> There was a receipe on the packet and on the yeast packet. I've

> just bought a bread making machine and am using receipe from the

> book that came with it. I've had to adapt it because they use

> sunflower oil and skimmed milk powder. You can you vco or butter

> instead of the oil. It seems a bit unnecessary to grind your own

> flour and seems a right hassle. Is there any particular reason

that

> you are doing it from scratch. Why do you have to soak the

grains?

> I'm not that bothered about avoiding carbs myself, just don't

eat to

> many, and everything in moderation. I just want to avoid the bad

> oils and soya which is not good for your thyroid. If you make

things

> to difficult and complicated for yourself you will just stress

> yourself out. Keep it simple, and be aware of portion size. Use

> smaller dinner plate if that helps and eat slowly and be aware

of

> every mouthful. And chew every mouthful lots of times.(got that

from

> Mckenna's book.)

> Goodnight

> Sally.

> >

> > That is great you have lost some weight on it! That is always

> encouraging to

> > hear!

> >

> > Would you mind sharing your bread recipe? I was reading on

> soaking your

> > grains and since I do not have my own mill I am not sure how

to do

> that or if I

> > even can. I have been going down to a supermarket that has a

mill

> and doing it

> > that way. I just got back a bit ago from grinding some flour

and

> have some

> > whole wheat bread in process as I type! I do try to stay away

from

> store bought

> > bread and even our co-op uses canola oil in theirs so try to

stay

> away from

> > that as well.

> >

> > I hate to totally give up healthy carbs..I eat steel cut oats

in

> the morning

> > with vco and flax seed and was adding a bit of walnuts....but

> wondering if I

> > should give up the walnuts....I do not drink milk very often

at

> all...I do

> > buy organic for my daughter but now reading raw is better...so

> confusing!

> >

> > Beth

> >

> >

> >

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In a message dated 10/17/2006 1:33:59 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

terisa113@... writes:

just wondering.. do you also drink diet sodas or else use

nutrasweet?? the reason i ask is that for quite some time my hair was

falling out and i was just thinking the other day my hair is not

falling out anymore.. i had quit all diet sodas and anything with

nutra sweet in it for about a year now.. i was thinking that maybe

the nutrasweet was the reason for the hair loss..

Hi...I do not drink diet sodas very often...and I have cut all nutrasweet

out of my life although I did not use a lot of it. I am allergic to Splenda so

didn't use that very often...

After I heard Jo Lund died from breast cancer and I just loved her books

and stuff but she used a lot of diet products with this in it. So I have

tried to totally eliminate it. I also have been researching alternatives to

sugar and try not to use that either...

My hair really has fallen out to such a degree that I am VERY thin on top

and have to work it so that it doesn't show. When the handfuls just keep coming

out it is very scary...I so hope it grows back...

Thanks for your input on this...Beth

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-just wondering.. do you also drink diet sodas or else use

nutrasweet?? the reason i ask is that for quite some time my hair was

falling out and i was just thinking the other day my hair is not

falling out anymore.. i had quit all diet sodas and anything with

nutra sweet in it for about a year now.. i was thinking that maybe

the nutrasweet was the reason for the hair loss..

quive notive-- In Coconut Oil ,

jun1488@... wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 10/15/2006 10:16:36 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> sally.hoffman@... writes:

>

> I'm not supprised you gained weight to start with if you have been

> on such a low calorie diet. Your body goes into starvation mode

and

> soon as you eat a bit more the body starts storing it. I've heard

> some people's weight does increase initially on the oil and then

> they start to lose it. 4 tubs you say, you need to look at the

type

> of food you eat. Bruce Fife's book 'Eat fat, look thin'is

> interesting reading.

> Sally

>

>

> Hi Sally....yes I do agree with the info on the body going into

the

> starvation mode and then just gaining when adding extra

calories...I just responded

> to Nina's email and mentioned that I had been off that a couple

months before

> adding the vco because I wanted my body to be able to maintain on

a normal

> amt of calories a day and I was trying to stop my hair from

falling out. I

> have used the 4 jars of vco over the last several weeks and some

has been used

> for baking so I have a the small container of the vco and taking

out say a cup

> for something I was baking uses a lot of it up quickly!

>

> I have the Coconut Miracle book by Bruce Fife and find it

interesting a lot

> of his recipes use sugar...which I am trying to get off of....

>

> I just ordered Cherie the juiceladys book on The coconut diet as

well....I

> have juiced in the past but do not think I could do her diet

totally....I am

> just looking for balance with no weight gain and some more loss!!

But I don't

> want my hair to fall out either! Beth

>

>

>

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In a message dated 10/17/2006 3:25:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

bonnieview@... writes:

Being mostly think on top, could be a hormone imbalance.

I had the same problem till I got mine balanced.

Bonnie

Hi Bonnie...When I had my yrly exam I talked about some things with my dr

and she said there was no way to test for hormones I told I didn't think that

was true but she insisted...So looking for a new dr!! lol

I think I am also a bit peri menopausal and need all sorts of balance...I am

wondering if others here drink milk? I have read pasterized is not good and

I thought organic was but heard if it isn't raw it isn't real....is 1/2 and

1/2 good...Would love others input on this...Beth

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Beth

I remember a couple of years ago whenever i combed my hair the sink

was full of hair and no obvious reason for it. I was scared as i had

thick hair and thought i had that condition where you lose all your

hair, can't remember the name of it. I read somewhere that it could

be a lack of vitamin e and when i started to take it the hair loss

eventually stopped. I know yours started with the low calorie diet

you were on but perhaps you're still low on nutrients. It's worth a

try.

Sally.

>

>

> In a message dated 10/17/2006 1:33:59 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> terisa113@... writes:

>

> just wondering.. do you also drink diet sodas or else use

> nutrasweet?? the reason i ask is that for quite some time my hair

was

> falling out and i was just thinking the other day my hair is not

> falling out anymore.. i had quit all diet sodas and anything with

> nutra sweet in it for about a year now.. i was thinking that

maybe

> the nutrasweet was the reason for the hair loss..

>

>

> Hi...I do not drink diet sodas very often...and I have cut all

nutrasweet

> out of my life although I did not use a lot of it. I am allergic

to Splenda so

> didn't use that very often...

> After I heard Jo Lund died from breast cancer and I just

loved her books

> and stuff but she used a lot of diet products with this in it. So

I have

> tried to totally eliminate it. I also have been researching

alternatives to

> sugar and try not to use that either...

>

> My hair really has fallen out to such a degree that I am VERY

thin on top

> and have to work it so that it doesn't show. When the handfuls

just keep coming

> out it is very scary...I so hope it grows back...

>

> Thanks for your input on this...Beth

>

>

>

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Beth:

Being mostly think on top, could be a hormone imbalance.

I had the same problem till I got mine balanced.

Bonnie

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In a message dated 10/17/2006 1:33:59 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

terisa113@... writes:

just wondering.. do you also drink diet sodas or else use

nutrasweet?? the reason i ask is that for quite some time my hair was

falling out and i was just thinking the other day my hair is not

falling out anymore.. i had quit all diet sodas and anything with

nutra sweet in it for about a year now.. i was thinking that maybe

the nutrasweet was the reason for the hair loss..

Hi...I do not drink diet sodas very often...and I have cut all nutrasweet

out of my life although I did not use a lot of it. I am allergic to Splenda so

didn't use that very often...

After I heard Jo Lund died from breast cancer and I just loved her books

and stuff but she used a lot of diet products with this in it. So I have

tried to totally eliminate it. I also have been researching alternatives to

sugar and try not to use that either...

My hair really has fallen out to such a degree that I am VERY thin on top

and have to work it so that it doesn't show. When the handfuls just keep

coming

out it is very scary...I so hope it grows back...

Thanks for your input on this...Beth

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I try to avoid milk. I make homemade nut milks instead. Brazil nut milk

tastes almost identical to whole milk, Mmmm . . . and almond milk is closer

to skim. My kids like rice milk, too (made from brown rice). They're all

VERY simply to make at home, just takes a blender. I can send you my

recipes if you want.

-

On 10/17/06, jun1488@... <jun1488@...> wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 10/17/2006 3:25:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> bonnieview@... <bonnieview%40sympatico.ca> writes:

>

> Being mostly think on top, could be a hormone imbalance.

>

> I had the same problem till I got mine balanced.

>

> Bonnie

>

> Hi Bonnie...When I had my yrly exam I talked about some things with my dr

> and she said there was no way to test for hormones I told I didn't think

> that

> was true but she insisted...So looking for a new dr!! lol

>

> I think I am also a bit peri menopausal and need all sorts of balance...I

> am

> wondering if others here drink milk? I have read pasterized is not good

> and

> I thought organic was but heard if it isn't raw it isn't real....is 1/2

> and

> 1/2 good...Would love others input on this...Beth

>

>

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Beth:

You can have your hormones checked with a Saliva Test. Some Progesterone cream

might help.

Bonnie

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In a message dated 10/17/2006 3:25:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

bonnieview@... writes:

Being mostly think on top, could be a hormone imbalance.

I had the same problem till I got mine balanced.

Bonnie

Hi Bonnie...When I had my yrly exam I talked about some things with my dr

and she said there was no way to test for hormones I told I didn't think that

was true but she insisted...So looking for a new dr!! lol

I think I am also a bit peri menopausal and need all sorts of balance...I am

wondering if others here drink milk? I have read pasterized is not good and

I thought organic was but heard if it isn't raw it isn't real....is 1/2 and

1/2 good...Would love others input on this...Beth

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Would there be any Calcium in these different milks?

Bonnie

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I try to avoid milk. I make homemade nut milks instead. Brazil nut milk

tastes almost identical to whole milk, Mmmm . . . and almond milk is closer

to skim. My kids like rice milk, too (made from brown rice). They're all

VERY simply to make at home, just takes a blender. I can send you my

recipes if you want.

-

On 10/17/06, jun1488@... <jun1488@...> wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 10/17/2006 3:25:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> bonnieview@... <bonnieview%40sympatico.ca> writes:

>

> Being mostly think on top, could be a hormone imbalance.

>

> I had the same problem till I got mine balanced.

>

> Bonnie

>

> Hi Bonnie...When I had my yrly exam I talked about some things with my dr

> and she said there was no way to test for hormones I told I didn't think

> that

> was true but she insisted...So looking for a new dr!! lol

>

> I think I am also a bit peri menopausal and need all sorts of balance...I

> am

> wondering if others here drink milk? I have read pasterized is not good

> and

> I thought organic was but heard if it isn't raw it isn't real....is 1/2

> and

> 1/2 good...Would love others input on this...Beth

>

>

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Yes, brazil nuts and almonds both contain calcium. I don't think rice has

much if any, but I could be wrong. Though, if calcium is your concern, you

should still avoid dairy - milk causes an acidic environment in the body

that can actually LEACH calcium FROM your bones. What an irony. And plus

the calcium in pasteurized milk is not properly processed by the human body,

which can create calcium excesses in some ways and calcium deficiencies in

others. For instance, I knew a woman once who had osteoporosis (raging

calcium deficiency), but also had kidney stones (usually caused by excess

calcium). Raw, dark green veggies are a great source of calcium - they

don't contain as, " much " calcium as milk in terms of actual measurement, but

the quality of the calcium is so much higher that you don't need nearly as

much to get much more benefit.

My favorite way to get a healthy serving of calcium is by making a smoothie

with two or three big handfuls of spinach (you really don't taste it), a

couple of cups of frozen fruit, 1 or 2 bananas, any extra nutrients you like

(I usually add ground flax and/or bee pollen), a few pitted dates for

sweetness (or you can use raw honey, xylitol, stevia), and add as much nut

milk as needed to make it turn over in the blender. Yummy! Or what tastes

even better but takes a little more work is using the water from a young

coconut for the liquid instead of the nut milk. Sooo sweet and naturally

delicious. Had that for breakfast this morning, using raspberries as the

frozen fruit. This is making me want another, LOL!

HTH . . .

-

On 10/18/06, Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote:

>

> :

>

> Would there be any Calcium in these different milks?

>

> Bonnie

> Re: Re: New to this

>

> I try to avoid milk. I make homemade nut milks instead. Brazil nut milk

> tastes almost identical to whole milk, Mmmm . . . and almond milk is

> closer

> to skim. My kids like rice milk, too (made from brown rice). They're all

> VERY simply to make at home, just takes a blender. I can send you my

> recipes if you want.

>

> -

>

> On 10/17/06, jun1488@... <jun1488%40aol.com>

<jun1488@...<jun1488%40aol.com>>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 10/17/2006 3:25:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> > bonnieview@...

<bonnieview%40sympatico.ca><bonnieview%40sympatico.ca> writes:

> >

> > Being mostly think on top, could be a hormone imbalance.

> >

> > I had the same problem till I got mine balanced.

> >

> > Bonnie

> >

> > Hi Bonnie...When I had my yrly exam I talked about some things with my

> dr

> > and she said there was no way to test for hormones I told I didn't think

> > that

> > was true but she insisted...So looking for a new dr!! lol

> >

> > I think I am also a bit peri menopausal and need all sorts of

> balance...I

> > am

> > wondering if others here drink milk? I have read pasterized is not good

> > and

> > I thought organic was but heard if it isn't raw it isn't real....is 1/2

> > and

> > 1/2 good...Would love others input on this...Beth

> >

> >

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, how true. The data worldwide and in prospective studies here in the

US concur that high calcium intakes does not correlate with reduced fracture

rates. Milk drinkers have higher fracture rates. Low-trauma fractures,

high fracture risks, don't come from a loss of calcium so much as from a

drying of the bone and a loss of resiliency, making it brittle and prone to

snap like an old twig. To save your bones from drying out, keep your body

cool, alkaline and uninflamed, and well lubricated with water and

good-quality oil (and we know what that means!). Acid-y food heats and

irritates the body. Magnesium also keeps the bones supple and resilient.

Magnesium is found in dark leafy green vegetables and many other whole

plant-based foods. No sense in listing them, or picking apart the

nutrients - just get with the program ...

btw I make a distinction here between heating the body (from inflammation)

and warming the body by improving metabolism.

Nina

Re: Re: New to this

Yes, brazil nuts and almonds both contain calcium. I don't think rice has

much if any, but I could be wrong. Though, if calcium is your concern, you

should still avoid dairy - milk causes an acidic environment in the body

that can actually LEACH calcium FROM your bones. What an irony. And plus

the calcium in pasteurized milk is not properly processed by the human body,

which can create calcium excesses in some ways and calcium deficiencies in

others. For instance, I knew a woman once who had osteoporosis (raging

calcium deficiency), but also had kidney stones (usually caused by excess

calcium). Raw, dark green veggies are a great source of calcium - they

don't contain as, " much " calcium as milk in terms of actual measurement, but

the quality of the calcium is so much higher that you don't need nearly as

much to get much more benefit.

My favorite way to get a healthy serving of calcium is by making a smoothie

with two or three big handfuls of spinach (you really don't taste it), a

couple of cups of frozen fruit, 1 or 2 bananas, any extra nutrients you like

(I usually add ground flax and/or bee pollen), a few pitted dates for

sweetness (or you can use raw honey, xylitol, stevia), and add as much nut

milk as needed to make it turn over in the blender. Yummy! Or what tastes

even better but takes a little more work is using the water from a young

coconut for the liquid instead of the nut milk. Sooo sweet and naturally

delicious. Had that for breakfast this morning, using raspberries as the

frozen fruit. This is making me want another, LOL!

HTH . . .

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And just to add, many people seem to associate, " acidic " foods with citrus

fruits and the like, when citrus fruits - especially lemons - are some of

the most alkaline foods on earth! Acidic foods have nothing to do with how

acidic they are externally, it's the reaction they produce internally that

makes them acid or alkaline-forming. Most all RAW fruits and veggies, save

a few random things like cranberries and a couple of others, are very

alkaline. Most all grains are unfortunately acidic, except millet. Sugar

and artificial sweeteners are very acidic. You can find lists online of

acid- and alkaline-forming foods - just Google it. And again, I strongly

recommend the book, " Alkalize or Die. " Practically every disease or ailment

known to mankind can be cured by producing an alkaline environment in the

body. For instance, cancer cells cannot survive in an alkaline environment,

so if one becomes alkaline and stays that way for long enough, the cancer

will necessarily die. I know one woman who completely cured her migraine

headaches basically just by drinking homemade lemonade (not sugar-sweetened,

of course, but stevia and xylitol are alkaline) each day.

Most of you probably knew all that, but I thought I'd clarify just in case.

And just one more thing - the important thing is that fruits must be raw to

be alkaline. For instance, lemons are extremely alkaline, but store-bought

lemon juice, which has been pasteurized, is acidic.

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On 10/18/06, Nina Moliver <yoganina@...> wrote:

>

> , how true. The data worldwide and in prospective studies here in

> the

> US concur that high calcium intakes does not correlate with reduced

> fracture

> rates. Milk drinkers have higher fracture rates. Low-trauma fractures,

> high fracture risks, don't come from a loss of calcium so much as from a

> drying of the bone and a loss of resiliency, making it brittle and prone

> to

> snap like an old twig. To save your bones from drying out, keep your body

> cool, alkaline and uninflamed, and well lubricated with water and

> good-quality oil (and we know what that means!). Acid-y food heats and

> irritates the body. Magnesium also keeps the bones supple and resilient.

> Magnesium is found in dark leafy green vegetables and many other whole

> plant-based foods. No sense in listing them, or picking apart the

> nutrients - just get with the program ...

>

> btw I make a distinction here between heating the body (from inflammation)

> and warming the body by improving metabolism.

>

> Nina

>

> Re: Re: New to this

>

> Yes, brazil nuts and almonds both contain calcium. I don't think rice has

> much if any, but I could be wrong. Though, if calcium is your concern, you

> should still avoid dairy - milk causes an acidic environment in the body

> that can actually LEACH calcium FROM your bones. What an irony. And plus

> the calcium in pasteurized milk is not properly processed by the human

> body,

> which can create calcium excesses in some ways and calcium deficiencies in

> others. For instance, I knew a woman once who had osteoporosis (raging

> calcium deficiency), but also had kidney stones (usually caused by excess

> calcium). Raw, dark green veggies are a great source of calcium - they

> don't contain as, " much " calcium as milk in terms of actual measurement,

> but

> the quality of the calcium is so much higher that you don't need nearly as

> much to get much more benefit.

>

> My favorite way to get a healthy serving of calcium is by making a

> smoothie

> with two or three big handfuls of spinach (you really don't taste it), a

> couple of cups of frozen fruit, 1 or 2 bananas, any extra nutrients you

> like

> (I usually add ground flax and/or bee pollen), a few pitted dates for

> sweetness (or you can use raw honey, xylitol, stevia), and add as much nut

> milk as needed to make it turn over in the blender. Yummy! Or what tastes

> even better but takes a little more work is using the water from a young

> coconut for the liquid instead of the nut milk. Sooo sweet and naturally

> delicious. Had that for breakfast this morning, using raspberries as the

> frozen fruit. This is making me want another, LOL!

>

> HTH . . .

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, thank you - grains, beans, meat and dairy are all very acidic ...

however, you gotta eat something. I have found that I can keep myself

nicely alkaline no matter what I eat, by adding one of two foods to each

meal: radishes, and natto (which is a fermented Japanese soy product). I

know this from both saliva and urine tests. They will alkalize any meal (at

least, of the foods I eat - I don't eat meat or dairy, or sugary desserts

either). I am sure there are other foods that are equally powerful, but

most raw vegetables for me are not. I test myself at home often, and I am

quite sure of this. Radishes can be raw or cooked, but not salt-pickled. I

think the salt draws the alkaloids out of the radishes.

Nina

Re: Re: New to this

And just to add, many people seem to associate, " acidic " foods with citrus

fruits and the like, when citrus fruits - especially lemons - are some of

the most alkaline foods on earth! Acidic foods have nothing to do with how

acidic they are externally, it's the reaction they produce internally that

makes them acid or alkaline-forming. Most all RAW fruits and veggies, save

a few random things like cranberries and a couple of others, are very

alkaline. Most all grains are unfortunately acidic, except millet. Sugar

and artificial sweeteners are very acidic. You can find lists online of

acid- and alkaline-forming foods - just Google it. And again, I strongly

recommend the book, " Alkalize or Die. " Practically every disease or ailment

known to mankind can be cured by producing an alkaline environment in the

body. For instance, cancer cells cannot survive in an alkaline environment,

so if one becomes alkaline and stays that way for long enough, the cancer

will necessarily die. I know one woman who completely cured her migraine

headaches basically just by drinking homemade lemonade (not sugar-sweetened,

of course, but stevia and xylitol are alkaline) each day.

Most of you probably knew all that, but I thought I'd clarify just in case.

And just one more thing - the important thing is that fruits must be raw to

be alkaline. For instance, lemons are extremely alkaline, but store-bought

lemon juice, which has been pasteurized, is acidic.

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Oh, I definitely don't think we should avoid all acid-forming foods - they

were obviously created by God for us to eat, and they aren't, " bad " for us.

But if one is trying to overcome a chronic illness of any kind, it would

probably be best to stick with only alkaline-forming foods for a time to

ensure quicker healing.

Very good to know about radishes and natto. Thanks for that info!

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On 10/19/06, Nina Moliver <yoganina@...> wrote:

>

> , thank you - grains, beans, meat and dairy are all very acidic

> ...

> however, you gotta eat something. I have found that I can keep myself

> nicely alkaline no matter what I eat, by adding one of two foods to each

> meal: radishes, and natto (which is a fermented Japanese soy product). I

> know this from both saliva and urine tests. They will alkalize any meal

> (at

> least, of the foods I eat - I don't eat meat or dairy, or sugary desserts

> either). I am sure there are other foods that are equally powerful, but

> most raw vegetables for me are not. I test myself at home often, and I am

> quite sure of this. Radishes can be raw or cooked, but not salt-pickled. I

> think the salt draws the alkaloids out of the radishes.

>

> Nina

>

> Re: Re: New to this

>

> And just to add, many people seem to associate, " acidic " foods with citrus

> fruits and the like, when citrus fruits - especially lemons - are some of

> the most alkaline foods on earth! Acidic foods have nothing to do with how

> acidic they are externally, it's the reaction they produce internally that

> makes them acid or alkaline-forming. Most all RAW fruits and veggies, save

> a few random things like cranberries and a couple of others, are very

> alkaline. Most all grains are unfortunately acidic, except millet. Sugar

> and artificial sweeteners are very acidic. You can find lists online of

> acid- and alkaline-forming foods - just Google it. And again, I strongly

> recommend the book, " Alkalize or Die. " Practically every disease or

> ailment

> known to mankind can be cured by producing an alkaline environment in the

> body. For instance, cancer cells cannot survive in an alkaline

> environment,

> so if one becomes alkaline and stays that way for long enough, the cancer

> will necessarily die. I know one woman who completely cured her migraine

> headaches basically just by drinking homemade lemonade (not

> sugar-sweetened,

> of course, but stevia and xylitol are alkaline) each day.

>

> Most of you probably knew all that, but I thought I'd clarify just in

> case.

> And just one more thing - the important thing is that fruits must be raw

> to

> be alkaline. For instance, lemons are extremely alkaline, but store-bought

> lemon juice, which has been pasteurized, is acidic.

>

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I'd be careful about Brazil nut milk. You could overdose on selenium.

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Yes, you can overdose on it, but (1) it's terribly lacking in most diets

(causes birth defects because pregnant women don't get enough), and (2)

getting it from a natural food source is a LOT different than taking a

synthetic form. Typically if your body gets too much of any mineral or

vitamin via a natural source, it just flushes the excess away.

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> I'd be careful about Brazil nut milk. You could overdose on selenium.

>

>

>

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, how true - and, in addition, nutrients in their natural package

are balanced by other nutrients that offset extreme effects. When you

pick isolated components out of a food and eat them that way, those

balancing effects are gone. In most cases, that's where overdoses come

from.

If you eat too many brazil nuts, you will know it in lots of ways -

feeling dull and heavy, turning yellow, and so forth. It's not because

of too much selenium - it's because of too many Brazil nuts.

If you enjoy the Brazil nut milk, fine, but don't deliberately pile it

on because you think it is good for you. It's a strong food and should

be in good balance with other foods.

Nina

>

> Yes, you can overdose on it, but (1) it's terribly lacking in most

diets

> (causes birth defects because pregnant women don't get enough), and

(2)

> getting it from a natural food source is a LOT different than taking a

> synthetic form. Typically if your body gets too much of any mineral

or

> vitamin via a natural source, it just flushes the excess away.

>

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If you want to run an ABA program, how many hours per week really depends upon

your child's needs. I really pushed at home to make everything a learning

experience outside of " formal " therapy. So even going shopping was about

learning colors and shapes and bed time stories were used to answer WH

questions. It was more a way of life for us at the time, lol. I tell people to

just get started and add hours as the child can handle it and as you can afford

it. You can get really creative and work a lot of play into the day that is

focused on learning specific skills. I would recommend you find a good book on

the subject and you will be sure to get ideas from there.

Roxanna

( ) New to this

Hi. I'm new here. I know some of you sound like you have been at this

a while, so maybe you can give me some advice. I have a 6 year old

girl with recent diagnosis of ADHD and mild Asperger's. She is verbal

and high functioning. She is in Kindergarten and plays on a soccer

team. She has minor social skills delays and impulsivity and patience

issues. We have tried meds and diets, but nothing seems to help. She

has been through speech therapy before. I am looking into ABA

therapy. I know what the Surgeon General recommends (min. of 25 hours

a week), but what is realistic for my child?

Also, I am a stay at home mom (former teacher). I am looking for

funding to help pay for therapy. Is there any national help that I

can investigate for this? The health dept in my state has a 6 year

waiting list. Please help. THanks,

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I agree with Roxanna that you would likely not need many (if any) formal therapy

hours at all. If you are approaching ABA through a motivational perspective

like Verbal Behavior your " therapy " ( I would argue it is actually eduation)

would look like you and your daughter playing her favorite games all over the

house (and beyond) with you and her taking turns sharing control, asking and

answering questions, and in the process meeting her specific learning goals.

Intensive trial teaching is normally for children who even with great motivation

to learn still have dramatic problems gaining and maintaining new skills. A

high functioning child or child with Asperger's would likely not need that much

ITT (Intensive trial teaching) and would mostly focus on NET (Natural

Environment Teaching). Although this recommendations would be likely be

different if you employed a traditional ABA provider not up to date with the

latest research and techniques in the field. If you can get

yourself up to speed with the basic principles and procedures through the help

of a few books and workshops and then employ a BCBA who is willing to come and

help you develop an appropriate learning program and then train you how to work

with ABA (instead of bringing in people for you to pay to do it for you), you

can get a lot done for remarkably less money. I believe that this sort of setup

is the best way and our institute is based on teaching families to become a self

contained unit able to apply behavioral principles to novel situations

throughout daily life to help a child become a better life learner. There is

more pressure and expectation put on the parents as the main teacher of the

child but the costs are much less and the results are in my experiences far

better and longer lasting.

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Hi. I'm new here. I know some of you sound like you have been at this

a while, so maybe you can give me some advice. I have a 6 year old

girl with recent diagnosis of ADHD and mild Asperger's. She is verbal

and high functioning. She is in Kindergarten and plays on a soccer

team. She has minor social skills delays and impulsivity and patience

issues. We have tried meds and diets, but nothing seems to help. She

has been through speech therapy before. I am looking into ABA

therapy. I know what the Surgeon General recommends (min. of 25 hours

a week), but what is realistic for my child?

Also, I am a stay at home mom (former teacher). I am looking for

funding to help pay for therapy. Is there any national help that I

can investigate for this? The health dept in my state has a 6 year

waiting list. Please help. THanks,

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Hi Ruth, Honestly everyone is a little different with the loose skin. I would guess the larger one may be the more likely that excess skin will be a problem although some people have great elasticity and the skin shrinks along with them. ( I'm not one of them) I'll take my wrinkly, flabby skin any-day over the dimpely, fat rolls I had! ;-) I am 41, 2 kids, hubby for 24yrs & live in land and my size 4 jeans hold everything in just fine!LOL.... Good luck on the 20th..It is a life changing day!! You will be fine!

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I am new to the website. I am still trying to figure everything out. I am 38 years old, and I live in New Hampshire. I am going for the surgery on the 20th. I am so excited. I don't really know exactly what to expect, even though I have read so many articles. I read 's blog. That is pretty exciting, and she looks amazing. I guess I was kind of wondering........I know everyone looks great, but does everybody also get the loose flappy skin afterwards? I know that is kind of a dumb question, but I didn't know. I would love to know if anyone here is in New Hampshire. I am nervous about the long flight, and going where I haven't gone before. My husband cannot go with me, but my sister is going to be going with me. Would love to hear from anyone. Thank you. Ruth

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Ruth: My sister went with me also. My husband felt she was the better

companion. Whew, was he right. There is absolutely nothing to be afraid

of. Lose skin may or may not be an issue. Everyone is different. Sometimes

it just depends on how fast you experience the weight loss and also how much

you are exercising during the losing stage. You will not ever be alone

while there and the staff will take good care of you. When you leave for

home, be sure to have some extra clothes in your carry on--panties, slacks,

etc. After three days of pure liquids, you " might " experience loose bowels

and you don't want any accidents. Put your liquid meds in a clear zip loc

back and have them out when you go through security. Follow the post

surgery program and you will be right back in the swing of things very soon.

Best Wishes,

C

Tampa

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>Reply-

>

>Subject: New to this

>Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 06:05:49 -0000

>

>I am new to the website. I am still trying to figure everything out. I

>am 38 years old, and I live in New Hampshire. I am going for the

>surgery on the 20th. I am so excited. I don't really know exactly what

>to expect, even though I have read so many articles. I read 's

>blog. That is pretty exciting, and she looks amazing. I guess I was

>kind of wondering........I know everyone looks great, but does

>everybody also get the loose flappy skin afterwards? I know that is

>kind of a dumb question, but I didn't know. I would love to know if

>anyone here is in New Hampshire. I am nervous about the long flight,

>and going where I haven't gone before. My husband cannot go with me,

>but my sister is going to be going with me. Would love to hear from

>anyone. Thank you. Ruth

>

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Ruth, I wouldn't worry about the excess skin. You will be a jillion

times healthier and the quality of your life will improve. You will

look and feel great and you will be successful at weight loss

(finally).

I'm from Virginia (DC-area) and I went a lone but I was not lonely. I

met my bandster buddies and slept most of the time. The band gives

me the willpower and self-discipline that I was lacking. I'm

encouraged by my success and the success of others that post to the

board.

I suggest that after your banding you continue to read / monitor and

participate in the postings everyday. While the band makes weight

loss easier it still requires work and this message board helps me to

stay motivated and know that success is within my grasp. I believe

that staying involved with this group via the message board is

essential to success.

Best to you! I look forward to hearing about your weight loss journey.

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