Re: I blew it all the He%^& $%@$#

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/1/04 1:30:49 PM Central Standard Time,

GirlFightKungFu@... writes:

> I

> probably consumed 3500 calories of sugar and crap and carbs last night.

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Take deep breaths -- and then throw yourself back on the wagon.

If you ate 3500 " extra " calories of " crap " last night, the physical

consequences should equate to ONE pound added to your body weight (your weight

might temporarily go a bit higher, due to water and salt content of what you

ate). So, your weight should not be hampered too much by your holiday

indiscretion. However, as you know, the HARD part will probably be getting

yourself

back into the program. You may have to white knuckle it for a few days to get

off of the junk again. It WILL be hard -- but it cannot be harder than all

that you have already been through in the past year.

Some people find that they have to go cold turkey on the carbs and

even the solid food -- doing a protein shake fast ( " feast " ) for a couple of days

to get back to feeling somewhat in control.

The volume that one can eat can be a VERY scary thing. Especially

when you combine it with drinking. I suspect that you were drinking with your

food over the holiday because you WANTED to eat more food -- and, at least

subconsciously, knew that drinking was the way to accomplish that. I know that

I

have done the same thing in the past -- specifically on Thanksgiving last year

-- I ate appetizers -- then, sip, sip, sip at the water to clear the way for

the main course -- then a bit later, sip, sip, sip, to make room for dessert.

I just didn't want to have to chose only ONE thing to eat. I was mad -- I was

defiant -- I broke " the rules. "

You are at the beginning of the dangerous years -- those AFTER the

first post op year -- when things begin to change -- what you can eat, how much

you can eat, boredom with the routine, all of those things -- and it probably

gets harder instead of easier as time goes on (dang it, I HOPE not though!).

You KNOW that you have to get back to the basics -- you know you and your

surgery tool are not infallible -- you can decide that you WILL do this.

Wipe those cookie crumbs off of your mouth, forgive yourself for

allowing the insanity to rule momentarily, and get on with normal life. You'll

be

just fine.

Beth

Houston, TX

VBG - Dr. Srungaram

05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty

11/29/02 - 160 lbs.

5'10 "

[Guest guest]

Missie,

Just because you blew it last night doesn't mean that you have to

blow it, or that you will blow it, tonight. Or, any other night.

But, for now, just reassure yourself: " I don't have to blow it

tonight; just tonight. Tomorrow will be a new day, and tomorrow I

can make other promises to myself. "

When you deny yourself so totally, binges are understandable. In a

few days, after you get over the current craving crisis, maybe you

can make a rational schedule of manageable indulgences for yourself,

so that you will not have to binge in the future. But, remember, for

just today, you do not have to blow it all the He%^ & $%@$#.

--Steve

At 2:28 PM -0500 1/1/04, GirlFightKungFu@... wrote:

>...I am soooo nervous that I have ruined everything. Eating all those carbs

>just made me want more carbs. I have been so good so far, what do

>I do? ...how

>much do I really need and how do I get over the mental anguish of

>screwing up so

>bad??

[Guest guest]

Missie,

I can still remember when I ate a whole can of Pringles and a

whole pint of Ben & Jerrys Chocolate brownie fudge ice cream (280 calories

per 1/2 cup yikes). It is so totally scary. I had people explain to me

so many times about slider foods but had never experienced it until about

1.5 years out.

I think we all mess up sometimes and this is the time of year I

generally tend to mess up. The thing is to get back on the band wagon.

I sooo appreciate the fact that I like chocolate protein drinks. At

least I feel that I am getting my sweet tooth taken care of while I am

getting in my protein. There are times when I will do nothing but

protein for a day or two and it usually helps. I have never been able to

do more then 2 days.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

479/356/hoping for close to 200

On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 14:28:44 EST GirlFightKungFu@... writes:

> how do I get over the mental anguish of screwing up so bad??

>Also.....how much can you all eat? Eating so much last night

> spooked me.

> My little pouch can hold it down sometimes. I can eat alot at

> times and

> other times not so much. I can eat a honking salad. Do you count

> calories???

> Missie

>

[Guest guest]

This is not like losing your virginity where once it's done, it's

done and you can't go back. Right?

This is more like a bad hair day. Wow! What a mess. I won't do THAT

again soon! I mean, the guilt alone is enough to scare a person

sane.

So, you wash your hair and do it the way it worked before for you.

The bad hair day is a scary memory that will keep you trusting your

former instincts for months now.

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I blew it all the He%^ & $%@$#

> Ok, last night I was a chaperone at kids sleepover for my Martial

Arts school

> where I am employed. After completely blowing it on Christmas I

thought for

> sure New Years would be a different story. Yea RIGHT! I am 1

year and 3

> months out....have gone from 334 to around 160-165.....it

fluctuattes....and have

> been stuck around there since about month 10. I am so much

healthier and life

> is so much better, I can't even explain. What scares me is

this.....

>

> I have been soooo disciplined with eating habits, all low carb and

high

> protein. And if I splurged it was low carb ice cream instead of

the real stuff.

> This holiday season I BLEW IT!! I got into the sugar and crap

soooo much

> Christmas Day and last night. Popcorn, cookies, you name it, I

at it. And ALOT

> of it over the course of the night. I even drank when I ate,

which I never

> do. And MAN can you eat the grub when you are washing it down at

the same time.

> I am soooo nervous that I have ruined everything. Eating all

those carbs

> just made me want more carbs. I have been so good so far, what

do I do? I

> probably consumed 3500 calories of sugar and crap and carbs last

night. I out a

> huge dent in the cookie plates of the 15 hour ordeal.

>

> I am a very active person so I know I need alot of good protein to

build

> strength. Being a Martial Arts instructor is hard physical

excersise. But how

> much do I really need and how do I get over the mental anguish of

screwing up so

> bad??

>

> Also.....how much can you all eat? Eating so much last night

spooked me.

> My little pouch can hold it down sometimes. I can eat alot at

times and

> other times not so much. I can eat a honking salad. Do you count

calories???

> Help me out here guys. Anyone else blow there

holidays.......let's all lay it

> out on the table here!

>

> Missie

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, what I want to know is what is with this getting up in the middle of

the night and eating crackers in bed? Like some others, I ate carbs like a

maniac all through Christmas! I have made a new commitment not to eat any

bad carbs. I will stay faithful now! I have to. I can't go back!

Never! Never! Never! I hardly ever post anymore, but it is good to know that

you are all here, that I can read your posts and get encouraged. I will have

my 4 year anniversary on Feb 15 ! Dr

Bock is my surgeon in Seattle. I will be seeing him for my yearly in Feb. My

pouch can hold so

much food now, it is scary, but if I use it properly it goes back to the way

it was created to work.

Happy New Year to you all! Bobbie Manchester, WA (near Port Orchard, WA)

I blew it all the He%^ & $%@$#

>

>

> > Ok, last night I was a chaperone at kids sleepover for my Martial

> Arts school

> > where I am employed. After completely blowing it on Christmas I

> thought for

> > sure New Years would be a different story. Yea RIGHT! I am 1

> year and 3

> > months out....have gone from 334 to around 160-165.....it

> fluctuattes....and have

> > been stuck around there since about month 10. I am so much

> healthier and life

> > is so much better, I can't even explain. What scares me is

> this.....

> >

> > I have been soooo disciplined with eating habits, all low carb and

> high

> > protein. And if I splurged it was low carb ice cream instead of

> the real stuff.

> > This holiday season I BLEW IT!! I got into the sugar and crap

> soooo much

> > Christmas Day and last night. Popcorn, cookies, you name it, I

> at it. And ALOT

> > of it over the course of the night. I even drank when I ate,

> which I never

> > do. And MAN can you eat the grub when you are washing it down at

> the same time.

> > I am soooo nervous that I have ruined everything. Eating all

> those carbs

> > just made me want more carbs. I have been so good so far, what

> do I do? I

> > probably consumed 3500 calories of sugar and crap and carbs last

> night. I out a

> > huge dent in the cookie plates of the 15 hour ordeal.

> >

> > I am a very active person so I know I need alot of good protein to

> build

> > strength. Being a Martial Arts instructor is hard physical

> excersise. But how

> > much do I really need and how do I get over the mental anguish of

> screwing up so

> > bad??

> >

> > Also.....how much can you all eat? Eating so much last night

> spooked me.

> > My little pouch can hold it down sometimes. I can eat alot at

> times and

> > other times not so much. I can eat a honking salad. Do you count

> calories???

> > Help me out here guys. Anyone else blow there

> holidays.......let's all lay it

> > out on the table here!

> >

> > Missie

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

To my rather strange mind, crackers = need for protein.

B, where are you? Not asleep at the swtich down there in CA,

are ya?

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I blew it all the He%^ & $%@$#

> >

> >

> > > Ok, last night I was a chaperone at kids sleepover for my

Martial

> > Arts school

> > > where I am employed. After completely blowing it on

Christmas I

> > thought for

> > > sure New Years would be a different story. Yea RIGHT! I am

1

> > year and 3

> > > months out....have gone from 334 to around 160-165.....it

> > fluctuattes....and have

> > > been stuck around there since about month 10. I am so much

> > healthier and life

> > > is so much better, I can't even explain. What scares me is

> > this.....

> > >

> > > I have been soooo disciplined with eating habits, all low

carb and

> > high

> > > protein. And if I splurged it was low carb ice cream

instead of

> > the real stuff.

> > > This holiday season I BLEW IT!! I got into the sugar and

crap

> > soooo much

> > > Christmas Day and last night. Popcorn, cookies, you name

it, I

> > at it. And ALOT

> > > of it over the course of the night. I even drank when I

ate,

> > which I never

> > > do. And MAN can you eat the grub when you are washing it

down at

> > the same time.

> > > I am soooo nervous that I have ruined everything. Eating

all

> > those carbs

> > > just made me want more carbs. I have been so good so far,

what

> > do I do? I

> > > probably consumed 3500 calories of sugar and crap and carbs

last

> > night. I out a

> > > huge dent in the cookie plates of the 15 hour ordeal.

> > >

> > > I am a very active person so I know I need alot of good

protein to

> > build

> > > strength. Being a Martial Arts instructor is hard physical

> > excersise. But how

> > > much do I really need and how do I get over the mental

anguish of

> > screwing up so

> > > bad??

> > >

> > > Also.....how much can you all eat? Eating so much last

night

> > spooked me.

> > > My little pouch can hold it down sometimes. I can eat alot

at

> > times and

> > > other times not so much. I can eat a honking salad. Do you

count

> > calories???

> > > Help me out here guys. Anyone else blow there

> > holidays.......let's all lay it

> > > out on the table here!

> > >

> > > Missie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

what is a slider food?

never heard that term

janice

Re: I blew it all the He%^ & $%@$#

In a message dated 1/1/04 1:30:49 PM Central Standard Time,

GirlFightKungFu@... writes:

> I

> probably consumed 3500 calories of sugar and crap and carbs last night.

---------------

Beth

Houston, TX

VBG - Dr. Srungaram

05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty

11/29/02 - 160 lbs.

5'10 "

[Guest guest]

Okay, I had the VBG but I think in theory slider foods apply to all WLS.

A slider food would be one that would slide through the ring or stoma

easily. It can be chewed up to the point of being easy to get down,

almost liquid. Unfortunately the easier it is to do this, the worse the

food is if eaten in excess. Ice cream, cakes, cookies, potatoe chips,

and mashed potatoes are just a few things that come to mind.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

479/356/hoping for close to 200

On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 09:23:43 -0800 " Janice Sperow "

writes:

> what is a slider food? never heard that term

> janice

[Guest guest]

I think a slider food is like the Haagen Dasz butter pecan ice cream I used to

eat, by the pint-full, at the dining room table at 3 in the morning when I was

MO... slides down really easy. Am I right?

Sharon in D.C.

Re: I blew it all the He%^ & $%@$#

In a message dated 1/1/04 1:30:49 PM Central Standard Time,

GirlFightKungFu@... writes:

> I

> probably consumed 3500 calories of sugar and crap and carbs last night.

---------------

Beth

Houston, TX

VBG - Dr. Srungaram

05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty

11/29/02 - 160 lbs.

5'10 "