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In a message dated 4/24/2005 3:12:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

lvchefmel@... writes:

Body Ecology Diet

do u have the link for that questionaire about yeast by chance? Been

looking for something to find out if my dd has a yeast problem

*~*~*~*~*~*

Lena

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I've never taken the enzymes myself, so I don't know if your diarrhea is enzyme

related, but I did have a virus last week that caused me to have HORRIBLE

cramping, no energy, and very bad diarrhea. Glad to hear you are taking the

probiotics. I took them too, at high doses, and alternated with charcol

tablets. The charcol sweeps the " bad stuff " out of your system.

This is the only advise I can give, and what worked for me. Probiotics and

charcol.

Good luck!

towanda219 <noway@...> wrote:

Hi,

My son with Aspergers has been taking pepizyde & zyme prime for over

a year and has been able to successfully stop the GFCF diet with

these supplements. Recently, I have been having many health

problems that appear to be autoimmune and have many similarities to

my sons health issues. I decided to try the enzymes myself last

week and have been having severe stomach pains and diarrhea ever

since. I stopped taking the enzymes 4 days ago and it isnt getting

any better. Could the enzymes have caused this? Things were not

perfect before but this really seems to have pushed things to a

whole new level of problems. Last night, I took two doses of pepto

bismol because I had to do something to try and stop this and today

it is just as bad. I have stopped all other vitamin supplements and

am only taking probiotics now and a pain medication (Mobic at night

before bed) for the joint pains related to my autoimmune problems.

The more I read about diarrhea and dehydration, the more frightened

I become. Can anyone tell me how to stop this and if the enzymes

are to blame. Any input would be greatly appreciated. I can't get

to the doctor till tomorrow and frankly he knows very little when it

comes to " alternative " treatments.

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>>>>> My son with Aspergers has been taking pepizyde & zyme prime for

over a year and has been able to successfully stop the GFCF diet with

> these supplements.

Yea! Is he happy about that?

>>>I decided to try the enzymes myself last week and have been having

severe stomach pains and diarrhea ever since.

How much of what enzymes did you take? And how is this pain different

than before. and what part of the gut is the pain at? Stomach, mid

gut, colon? If you could be more specific it would help. Has the pain

changed at all in the four days either way?

>>>> The more I read about diarrhea and dehydration, the more

frightened I become.

Unfortunately, we can't look through a window into our guts to see

what is going on. So we have to guess and wonder...this can be

frightening as well as frustrating. Keep drinking electrolytes

(pedialyte or gatorade are handy although there are probably better

things out there). Someone posted already about the BRAT diet for

diarrhea. I'll wait to hear from you (feel free to write me privately

too if you like).

.

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I also started taking the enzymes. They all but cured my IBS. I only take one

of each with meals. I know that a lot of kids have die-off. I think has

had some but others have more. You could try probiotics to help replace good

bacteria, I drink at least one DanActive a day. More because I just like it but

the good buggies could be doing something too?

I think diarrhea is the way our body gets rid of a lot of toxins. Please

someone correct me if I am wrong. If you have a major yeast problem, which many

women do-I know I do, you may be taking too much too soon. Is the pain gas

pain? The Houstons site talks about gas being a problem for a few days until

the body gets acclimated. I saw on the Body Ecology Diet web site a

questionnaire to see if a person has a yeast issue. Don't know just how

reliable but I thought it interesting.

Dehydration is a serious problem if prolonged. If you think you are becoming

seriously dehydrated please see medical attention. Our bodies have a tremendous

ability to heal ourselves but we have to exercise caution as well.

jornmatt <kjorn@...> wrote:

>>>>> My son with Aspergers has been taking pepizyde & zyme prime for

over a year and has been able to successfully stop the GFCF diet with

> these supplements.

Yea! Is he happy about that?

>>>I decided to try the enzymes myself last week and have been having

severe stomach pains and diarrhea ever since.

How much of what enzymes did you take? And how is this pain different

than before. and what part of the gut is the pain at? Stomach, mid

gut, colon? If you could be more specific it would help. Has the pain

changed at all in the four days either way?

>>>> The more I read about diarrhea and dehydration, the more

frightened I become.

Unfortunately, we can't look through a window into our guts to see

what is going on. So we have to guess and wonder...this can be

frightening as well as frustrating. Keep drinking electrolytes

(pedialyte or gatorade are handy although there are probably better

things out there). Someone posted already about the BRAT diet for

diarrhea. I'll wait to hear from you (feel free to write me privately

too if you like).

.

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Thank you all for the well informed responses to my help question.

I find it difficult to describe the stomach pain, just flu-like

going to throw up feeling. I only took one peptizye and one

zymeprime before each meal. I am guessing that if this is not a

common problem with starting enzymes, I must have some yeast

overgrowth issues and/or a lot of toxins being removed. I will keep

treating with probiotics and hopefully things will get under control

soon. The enzymes have changed my son's life for the better in so

many ways. He has been able to go on out of state field trips

without having to pack a separate bag for his food. He eats the

horribly un-nutricious garbage that they serve in the school

cafeteria everyday and he loves it! It has really helped him

to " fit in " at school. And how it has changed my life! I no longer

spend my days baking everything for him. His health is better all

around. Sometimes, he is so well that he thinks he is cured and

tries eating without the enzymes. I can always tell when he does

this because he gets puffy allergy eyes, is fatigued, irritable and

complains of stomach pain. I think he will probably always need

them and I am just so pleased that this treatment is available for

him.

>

> >>>>> My son with Aspergers has been taking pepizyde & zyme prime

for

> over a year and has been able to successfully stop the GFCF diet

with

> > these supplements.

>

> Yea! Is he happy about that?

>

>

> >>>I decided to try the enzymes myself last week and have been

having

> severe stomach pains and diarrhea ever since.

>

> How much of what enzymes did you take? And how is this pain

different

> than before. and what part of the gut is the pain at? Stomach, mid

> gut, colon? If you could be more specific it would help. Has the

pain

> changed at all in the four days either way?

>

>

> >>>> The more I read about diarrhea and dehydration, the more

> frightened I become.

>

> Unfortunately, we can't look through a window into our guts to see

> what is going on. So we have to guess and wonder...this can be

> frightening as well as frustrating. Keep drinking electrolytes

> (pedialyte or gatorade are handy although there are probably

better

> things out there). Someone posted already about the BRAT diet for

> diarrhea. I'll wait to hear from you (feel free to write me

privately

> too if you like).

>

> .

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

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>>>> I find it difficult to describe the stomach pain, just flu-like

> going to throw up feeling.

This is the common way that 'die-off' is described. As a general

nauseating flu-like situation. Maybe with head-aches, general

fatigue, etc. As opposed to a stabbing pain or throbbing pain in

certain areas only.

>>>I will keep treating with probiotics and hopefully things will get

under control soon.

and you might want to continue with the enzymes (zyme prime only) for

awhile. Then in a few weeks add in the Peptizyde again very slowly.

This 1-2 approach tends to minimize the adverse reactions and make

the die-off more tolerable. Lots of pure water and antioxidants helps

too.

I generally think of diarrhea as the body trying to flush something

out it doesn't like.

>>>The enzymes have changed my son's life for the better in so many

ways.

I am soooo happy for your son and your whole family!!! wa-HOOO, doing

a Happy Dance for you guys!!!!

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YEAH for your son!! So far I think my son can come off his diet as well. The

dairy still makes me really nervous, no one in our family seems to tolerate it.

But cheating on his diet has always produced many reactions and I am not getting

them with the enzymes. I am hoping this will continue and we won't have to be

so careful about what he eats. Going out of town won't be such a hassle

either!! I am hoping that will open up and eat more things. He is such a

skinny little thing.

I am so happy for you and hope you feel better soon. I think the enzymes are a

blessing. It is wonderful to be able to eat and not feel sick! Such an easy

fix to something doctors seem so baffled by!! Moms are so smart (Dads too!).

Best Wishes,

towanda219 <noway@...> wrote:

Thank you all for the well informed responses to my help question.

I find it difficult to describe the stomach pain, just flu-like

going to throw up feeling. I only took one peptizye and one

zymeprime before each meal. I am guessing that if this is not a

common problem with starting enzymes, I must have some yeast

overgrowth issues and/or a lot of toxins being removed. I will keep

treating with probiotics and hopefully things will get under control

soon. The enzymes have changed my son's life for the better in so

many ways. He has been able to go on out of state field trips

without having to pack a separate bag for his food. He eats the

horribly un-nutricious garbage that they serve in the school

cafeteria everyday and he loves it! It has really helped him

to " fit in " at school. And how it has changed my life! I no longer

spend my days baking everything for him. His health is better all

around. Sometimes, he is so well that he thinks he is cured and

tries eating without the enzymes. I can always tell when he does

this because he gets puffy allergy eyes, is fatigued, irritable and

complains of stomach pain. I think he will probably always need

them and I am just so pleased that this treatment is available for

him.

>

> >>>>> My son with Aspergers has been taking pepizyde & zyme prime

for

> over a year and has been able to successfully stop the GFCF diet

with

> > these supplements.

>

> Yea! Is he happy about that?

>

>

> >>>I decided to try the enzymes myself last week and have been

having

> severe stomach pains and diarrhea ever since.

>

> How much of what enzymes did you take? And how is this pain

different

> than before. and what part of the gut is the pain at? Stomach, mid

> gut, colon? If you could be more specific it would help. Has the

pain

> changed at all in the four days either way?

>

>

> >>>> The more I read about diarrhea and dehydration, the more

> frightened I become.

>

> Unfortunately, we can't look through a window into our guts to see

> what is going on. So we have to guess and wonder...this can be

> frightening as well as frustrating. Keep drinking electrolytes

> (pedialyte or gatorade are handy although there are probably

better

> things out there). Someone posted already about the BRAT diet for

> diarrhea. I'll wait to hear from you (feel free to write me

privately

> too if you like).

>

> .

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

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I searched the body ecology website and didn't find it. The site is

www.bodyecologydiet.com I guess that was in her book. I met her at a DAN!

conference in San Diego and she later mailed me the book. The book is very

informative even if you aren't wanting to do the diet. You can find it on

Amazon for sure, don't know about stores. I haven't unpacked all my books from

the move yet but will get out in the garage tomorrow and look. I will either

scan it in and if you are okay getting an attachment from me I will send it off

that way, we do have antivirus software. If that isn't okay, I will see about

just typing in what I can. I am sorry.

I did do a search and found some sites that sounded pretty interesting. I

didn't read too much but they looked good. I hope that helps. I know that

there are so many people with yeast issues that don't know it. I will let you

know when I can find that information for you.

www.nationalcandidacenter.com/test3.htm

www.health-truth.com/questionnaire.asp

www.candida treatment.org

www.medical-library.net/sites/framer.html?/sites/yeast_syndrome.html

cbfllady@... wrote:

In a message dated 4/24/2005 3:12:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

lvchefmel@... writes:

Body Ecology Diet

do u have the link for that questionaire about yeast by chance? Been

looking for something to find out if my dd has a yeast problem

*~*~*~*~*~*

Lena

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Great, according to all those tests my dd does not have a yeast problem. Thank

you!

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Lena

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Re: Re: Help!

I searched the body ecology website and didn't find it. The site is

www.bodyecologydiet.com I guess that was in her book. I met her at a DAN!

conference in San Diego and she later mailed me the book. The book is very

informative even if you aren't wanting to do the diet. You can find it on

Amazon for sure, don't know about stores. I haven't unpacked all my books from

the move yet but will get out in the garage tomorrow and look. I will either

scan it in and if you are okay getting an attachment from me I will send it off

that way, we do have antivirus software. If that isn't okay, I will see about

just typing in what I can. I am sorry.

I did do a search and found some sites that sounded pretty interesting. I

didn't read too much but they looked good. I hope that helps. I know that

there are so many people with yeast issues that don't know it. I will let you

know when I can find that information for you.

www.nationalcandidacenter.com/test3.htm

www.health-truth.com/questionnaire.asp

www.candida treatment.org

www.medical-library.net/sites/framer.html?/sites/yeast_syndrome.html

cbfllady@... wrote:

In a message dated 4/24/2005 3:12:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

lvchefmel@... writes:

Body Ecology Diet

do u have the link for that questionaire about yeast by chance? Been

looking for something to find out if my dd has a yeast problem

*~*~*~*~*~*

Lena

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>>I decided to try the enzymes myself last

> week and have been having severe stomach pains and diarrhea ever

> since. I stopped taking the enzymes 4 days ago and it isnt getting

> any better. Could the enzymes have caused this?

This is a good description of my reaction. I was using enzymes with

all foods, and most of what I was eating I did not tolerate. So I had

massive adjustment, which caused massive diarrhea and stomach cramps.

I stopped the enzymes after only 3 days, but I basically could not

eat [and even lost my appetite] for about a month, maybe 5 weeks.

When I started eating again, I used a lower dose of the enzymes with

all foods, and that worked.

>>Can anyone tell me how to stop this and if the enzymes

> are to blame.

I stopped eating altogether, no foods or supplements, just drank

water. Then when I started eating again, I used enzymes with ALL

foods. It took a while to determine which foods caused the problems

and required enzymes.

As a side benefit, I lost over 40 pounds in about 3 months!

Dana

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I started my son on enzymes when he was 11 yrs old. He is 14 yrs

old now. I didn't noticed anything spectacular at the beginning but

since he was not doing any worse and I had paid for the enzymes

already I kept on giving them to him for every bite of food he ate

(btw I started the three enzymes one capsule each from the

beginning... I know not the best way but I was pretty desperate at

the time) A couple of months later family and friends started

commenting how much calmer he was, how he seemed to understand and

interact better, etc His siblings started making comments like " the

magic pills " and why didn't I tell everyone about them...now they

say that I can cure EVERYTHING with enzymes :) So my point is that

for some kids the improvements might not seem that obvious and might

take a little more time.

Vilma

> I have three boys with autism, twins 14 and a three year old.

They

> have all been on peptyzide and zymeprime from houston naturals for

> about a month. One twin is on chewable, one on capsules and three

year

> old on powder. All at one capsule and powder at 1/4 tsp. Not

seeing

> any difference in any the twins. The smallest twin (non verbal)

was

> throwing up after eating and having powder supplelment so I

switched

> to chewable, he is doing much better, no gagging but not seeing

any

> weight gain (which he desperately needs) I began hearing some

sounds

> from nonverbal 3 yo but no other gains. He is a very picky eater

so I

> have a hard time getting the supplements into him. Any

suggestions? I

> have read such positive things about the supplements but maybe I

am

> doing something wrong. I don't think uping the dosage would work,

I

> worry it will make them throw up. Thanks for you help.

>

>

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Don't think you are doing anything 'wrong'. Personally, I would try

upping the dose, but if you don't think that is worth doing, then just

stick with it. Kids getting into the teens and adults may take longer.

It might be because they have just had longer to incur more physical

problems and nutritional deficiencies that need fixing. It could also

be they are older and have learned coping mechanisms. The person could

be feeling better, but it doesn't 'show' on the outside yet.

We know two teens in our area that started enzymes. I remember they

gave one per meal because that is all one family would venture on, and

the other family could only get one down the kid at a time. By the

second and third month, there were noticeable differences that non-

family people were commenting on. By the fourth month, one of the teens

refused to eat anything without enzymes because she felt so

significantly better.

If the kids are throwing with higher amounts of enzymes, it could be

they just need more 'low and slow' healing as you are doing. My son was

a gagger-refluxer for years. Into the third and fourth month with

enzymes, he gradually stopped doing this until it stopped completely.

That was over 3 years ago. It was a healing process. So just keep up

with the enzymes and they can heal in time.

Do your sons have any stomach or yeast problems?

The only other adjustment to try is have the kids take enzymes whenever

they eat. Sometimes including with snacks makes a more noticeable

difference in the beginning. In general, the more enzymes you can get

down, the faster the healing happens. But then, we have to live in the

real world too and do what we can.

Please, please keep us posted. I think the older kids are very

interesting cases as they have less options.

.

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>>Any suggestions? I

> have read such positive things about the supplements but maybe I am

> doing something wrong. I don't think uping the dosage would work, I

> worry it will make them throw up.

It might work to increase the dose after they have been using the

enzymes for 3 weeks or so.

You might want to add No-Fenol, see if they are having problems with

phenol foods that the No-Fenol would address.

For my kids, I used all three enzymes but there were still foods they

could not eat. So you can experiment, see if you notice any changes.

Dana

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Give extra vitamin C. I gave the powdered form to my daughter in her

rice milk. If you reach diarrhea, then you just cut back the dose and

you should get normal stools. My daughter used to have constipation,

but now with a daily dose of Vitamin C, she has normal poops. The good

thing about vitamin C is that it is water soluble, and when the body

gets all it needs, then it expels the rest by diarrhea. So, you just

keep going up until that happens and then back off a little. You

basically can not go toxic on it.--Tod

-- In , Janet Molsberry

<jmolsber@s...> wrote:

> Our little Zoe (3 years old preemie twin) is pooping little light

> brown pellets What can we give her She is potty training and

> tending toward constipation alot lately

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> Our little Zoe (3 years old preemie twin) is pooping little light

> brown pellets What can we give her She is potty training and

> tending toward constipation alot lately

Milk and rice tend to be constipating, so you can remove or reduce

those and see if it helps.

Magnesium and vitamin C supplements can work well.

Here are other constipation ideas

http://www.danasview.net/constip.htm

Dana

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What Vit. C are you using? I was giving this for concipation and

noted after that there is Calcium and Mag in it. I am using Twinlabs

buffered Vit C. Is this suitable or not

Thanks

Aileen

> > Our little Zoe (3 years old preemie twin) is pooping little light

> > brown pellets What can we give her She is potty training and

> > tending toward constipation alot lately

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So sorry to hear that your foot is hurting so much, . Maybe you should

have an x-ray just to be safe (and to avoid having to go in again).

If I lived near you, I'd give you a ride to your appointment, but aren't you

in Canada?

Vent anytime.

Not an MD

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

[ ] Help!

> Hello.

>

> I swear, if it isn't one thing going wrong around here...it's

> another. I tripped over the cat in the dark a few nights ago and my

> foot was sore instantly. Nothing major....just hobbled back to bed.

> Now, since I started a flare today, I can't put any weight on my foot

> this afternoon. I was limping this morning, now it's become so much

> worse. I go to my doctor tomorrow afternoon, and he might send me

> for an x-ray. Not sure what he'll do.

>

> I am a total wreck here. I have kids to take care of, my boyfriend

> is gone to a meeting until 10:30pm, I have to take care of two young

> girls tomorrow morning, and the parkade where my doc is located is

> closed for renovations. I have to park and walk a couple of blocks

> (provided I can even get a spot!). To top it off....I don't know how

> the heck I am supposed to walk up the stairs/ramp to the building,

> make my way to the elevator, then walk down the long hallway to the

> office. I have crutches, but I don't have the strength in my

> hands/wrists/elbows to use them.

>

> I am so sorry to vent here, but there is nobody else around that

> would understand. I hope and pray that this isn't a stress

> fracture. What worries me most is that it's only the one foot I hurt

> a few days ago, and the other foot is no worse/stiff than usual.

> It's odd to have this much pain located in one area. When my RA

> flares, I get it all over - both sides.

>

> Thanks for listening....just needed to get it off my chest.

>

>

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Hi ! It makes me feel better to hear someone else whine,so

please do all you want.Check with you're insurance co.and see if they

will cover renting a Hover Round or what ever you call those electric

thingys. Hope you feel better soon!!-Tammy-

> Hello.

>

> I swear, if it isn't one thing going wrong around here...it's

> another. I tripped over the cat in the dark a few nights ago and

my

> foot was sore instantly. Nothing major....just hobbled back to

bed.

> Now, since I started a flare today, I can't put any weight on my

foot

> this afternoon. I was limping this morning, now it's become so

much

> worse. I go to my doctor tomorrow afternoon, and he might send me

> for an x-ray. Not sure what he'll do.

>

> I am a total wreck here. I have kids to take care of, my boyfriend

> is gone to a meeting until 10:30pm, I have to take care of two

young

> girls tomorrow morning, and the parkade where my doc is located is

> closed for renovations. I have to park and walk a couple of blocks

> (provided I can even get a spot!). To top it off....I don't know

how

> the heck I am supposed to walk up the stairs/ramp to the building,

> make my way to the elevator, then walk down the long hallway to the

> office. I have crutches, but I don't have the strength in my

> hands/wrists/elbows to use them.

>

> I am so sorry to vent here, but there is nobody else around that

> would understand. I hope and pray that this isn't a stress

> fracture. What worries me most is that it's only the one foot I

hurt

> a few days ago, and the other foot is no worse/stiff than usual.

> It's odd to have this much pain located in one area. When my RA

> flares, I get it all over - both sides.

>

> Thanks for listening....just needed to get it off my chest.

>

>

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yes, its not just me. lol. Cassy

> > Hello.

> >

> > I swear, if it isn't one thing going wrong around here...it's

> > another. I tripped over the cat in the dark a few nights ago

and

> my

> > foot was sore instantly. Nothing major....just hobbled back to

> bed.

> > Now, since I started a flare today, I can't put any weight on my

> foot

> > this afternoon. I was limping this morning, now it's become so

> much

> > worse. I go to my doctor tomorrow afternoon, and he might send

me

> > for an x-ray. Not sure what he'll do.

> >

> > I am a total wreck here. I have kids to take care of, my

boyfriend

> > is gone to a meeting until 10:30pm, I have to take care of two

> young

> > girls tomorrow morning, and the parkade where my doc is located

is

> > closed for renovations. I have to park and walk a couple of

blocks

> > (provided I can even get a spot!). To top it off....I don't

know

> how

> > the heck I am supposed to walk up the stairs/ramp to the

building,

> > make my way to the elevator, then walk down the long hallway to

the

> > office. I have crutches, but I don't have the strength in my

> > hands/wrists/elbows to use them.

> >

> > I am so sorry to vent here, but there is nobody else around that

> > would understand. I hope and pray that this isn't a stress

> > fracture. What worries me most is that it's only the one foot I

> hurt

> > a few days ago, and the other foot is no worse/stiff than

usual.

> > It's odd to have this much pain located in one area. When my RA

> > flares, I get it all over - both sides.

> >

> > Thanks for listening....just needed to get it off my chest.

> >

> >

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So sorry you have hurt your foot. I hope everything is

ok and it isn't a stress fracture. Let us know what

the Dr. says. Hope you feel better soon.

Beth(AR)

--- ltlmisscrankypants

<ltlmisscrankypants@...> wrote:

> Hello.

>

> I swear, if it isn't one thing going wrong around

> here...it's

> another. I tripped over the cat in the dark a few

> nights ago and my

> foot was sore instantly. Nothing major....just

> hobbled back to bed.

> Now, since I started a flare today, I can't put any

> weight on my foot

> this afternoon. I was limping this morning, now

> it's become so much

> worse. I go to my doctor tomorrow afternoon, and he

> might send me

> for an x-ray. Not sure what he'll do.

>

> I am a total wreck here. I have kids to take care

> of, my boyfriend

> is gone to a meeting until 10:30pm, I have to take

> care of two young

> girls tomorrow morning, and the parkade where my doc

> is located is

> closed for renovations. I have to park and walk a

> couple of blocks

> (provided I can even get a spot!). To top it

> off....I don't know how

> the heck I am supposed to walk up the stairs/ramp to

> the building,

> make my way to the elevator, then walk down the long

> hallway to the

> office. I have crutches, but I don't have the

> strength in my

> hands/wrists/elbows to use them.

>

> I am so sorry to vent here, but there is nobody else

> around that

> would understand. I hope and pray that this isn't a

> stress

> fracture. What worries me most is that it's only

> the one foot I hurt

> a few days ago, and the other foot is no worse/stiff

> than usual.

> It's odd to have this much pain located in one area.

> When my RA

> flares, I get it all over - both sides.

>

> Thanks for listening....just needed to get it off my

> chest.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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my 17 month old has been on diflucan for about 2 months and ever since then she

has had problems with strept. I think clearing out the yeast has made the

bacteria problems worse, so now we are having to treat with antibiotics for the

past 10 days which I think is killing her stomach and making her not want to

eat. She can't afford this because she's already underweight, any help

please????

Thanks,

Re: Seizures, enzymes - need advice!

Has she tried B6?

http://faculty.washington.edu/sgospe/pyridoxine/Webpages/pubs.html

My daughter uses a combination of B6, B12 and Folinic

Acid to control seizures. Head drops and sensory

seizures were the main types.

P

--- nikitasmom33 <nikitasmom33@...> wrote:

> Hi, all

> I have a friend with 2yo son. He is suffering with

> frequent seizures -

> up to 100-200 a day. They are not like typical

> seizures - his

> suddenly shudders with all his body and then all his

> muscles suddenly

> loose tonus and he collapses like jellyfish. Just in

> 1 sec after that

> he is up again like nothing has happened. These

> seizures can happen

> at daytime and during the sleep, especially when he

> is falling

> asleep. At daytime the mother has to keep him in

> reins all the day

> because of his constant collapses - every 3-5 min.

> They tried

> different anticonvulsant drugs. Some of them did not

> work at all,

> some drugs could reduce quantity of seizures down to

> 40-60 a day

> initially but then again he would have 100-200

> seizures a day. She

> tried to add magnesium - he had even more seizures.

> In spite of

> constant seizures he has not regressed. He has over

> 25-30 words by

> now and is slowly gaining more. Probably he is

> hyperactive and has

> problem with attention but otherwise seems Ok.

> The other problem - he refuses to eat completely.

> They have to

> forcefeed him. They tried not to feed him for 2 days

> - he still

> refused to eat. And with anticonvulsant drugs his

> refusal to eat

> became even worse. He's got constant constipation

> interchanging with

> diarrhoea. His tummy is swollen most of the time.

> Supposing that the seizures might be caused by

> intestinal troubles

> his mother is trying CF diet now. She introduced

> Peptizyde three

> weeks ago with no noticeable improvement. He refuses

> to eat even

> more. Now he can't eat meat at all - just throws it

> up. In a few days

> after starting Peptizyde his BM got loose with sour

> smell. And his

> sweat smelled sour. She did not give Peptizyde for

> two days and the

> sour smell in his sweat disappeared. Though his

> poops still smell

> sour. What could cause this smelly sweat? Detoxing?

> Then the mother took the plunge and went casein

> free. Today he is 5

> days casein free. He still rejects any food, she has

> to feed him

> while he is asleep. There was no obvious improvement

> in his bowel

> movements, no changes in seizures frequency. But his

> behaviour got

> worse and he's got dark circles under eyes. It might

> be withdrawal

> from dairy or might be intolerance to nuts she gives

> him instead of

> dairy. How could she say which is the case? If it is

> withdrawal how

> long it might take? I thought 5 days for 2yrs old is

> long enough.

> Should she keep on it longer?

> Any inputs regarding seizures and rejecting food,

> please?

> Thanks

> Galina

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> my 17 month old has been on diflucan for about 2 months and ever

since then she has had problems with strept. I think clearing out the

yeast has made the bacteria problems worse, so now we are having to

treat with antibiotics for the past 10 days which I think is killing

her stomach and making her not want to eat. She can't afford this

because she's already underweight, any help please????

I would try dropping the Diflucan and increasing your antibiotics,

maybe add OLE also.

Dana

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Others will know more about the sleeping, it is a very common issue. I think it

is 5HTP or something like that that helps people stay asleep where melatonin

only helps you get to sleep.

My first questions would be to ask what have you done biomedically so far? I

don't know how far you are into this process, sorry!

For me :)

I would first get hair tests done on all three boys. That will give you a

good jumping off point. It will let you know about metal poisoning and vitamin

and mineral dificencys.

I would then get them on digestive enzymes, good source of omegas, probiotics,

and any vitamins and minerals they are low in.

Bipolar, ADHD, ODD are all possible outcomes from mercury poisoning. Clearing

that out of their bodies can potentially help them tremendously.

Have you looked at...

Autism Research Institute www.ari.com

Generation Rescue www.generationrescue.org

Andy Cutler's book Amalgam Illness is good for explaining everything about

mercury and what it does to our bodies and how to get rid of it. I think his

website is www.amalgamillness.com

There is a TON of information out there. I just know if it were me starting

out again the hair test would be the first I would get. Followed by the IgG to

test for food intolerances. I would want to know what I was dealing with before

jumping in.

Are your kids vaccinated? Just wondering. Homeopathy is another option to

look at. Amy Lansky has a great book called the Impossible Cure.

Another great book is Children with Starving Brains...can't recal the author

right now though.

Ajerseygirl52@... wrote:

Hello...

My name is Sue and I am a fairly new member! I have a 17 year old with

severe nonverbal autism and adhd. I also have 3 other younger children, 2 of

which

have disorders. I am requesting information from everyone from this group.

Maybe suggestions or advice? My 17 year old doesn't sleep for more then 3-5

hours at night, and then does several thing randomly. He wakes up his 3 and 5

year old siblings anywhere from midnight until 4 am and they don't go back to

sleep (so I don't get to go to sleep). Or he binges thru the cabinets and

fridge to get food or juice. Or he goes thru the house looking for newspapers,

books, maps, whatever he can read, and making a lot of noise and messes along

the way. Or he goes into his sleeping brother's room and binges thru his book

bag or goes into the closet (we use my 12 year old's closet as a storage

closet), and makes a mess....Then after doing 1 or all of the above, he goes

back

to bed, and sleeps for another 3-5 hours. Then wakes up and goes to school.

He takes melatonin to help him sleep, but apparently it's not working or not

working enough. Like he woke up at 3:00 this morning and I gave him 6mg of

melatonin and now he's asleep again, but my 3 and 5 year old are awake. Any

suggestions on this matter would be greatly appreciated and totally thankful!

Thank you. I don't post a lot (mainly because I have a very choatic and busy

life sometimes), but want to say I love this group! It's very supportive and

informative!

Have a great Friday and look forward to hearing from everyone!

Hugs and Blessings,

Sue

'Wife to: Jim

Mom to:

17 (severe nonverbal autism, developmental delays and adhd )

12 (early onset bipolar disorder, adhd, and possible ODD)

5 (developmental delay and adhd)

na 3 (totally average girl with no disabilities, delays or disorders so

far Thank God!!)

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Ken,

Her fears a valid.I think when you have our condition and you know

you are not getting better..you start doing less and less. It is

obvious to those who care about you ,that this is a big change in

what they were used to. I believe everyone gets to the surgery

option when they have just had it with this way of living and the

pain, takes some folks longer than others. For me I decided fairly

quickly that I was not going to live like this. My pain started June

2005 and I just had surgery Jan 2006. I am 45 and could not imagine

living like I was...the pain and inability to participate in my

childrens lives, I have 4 kids. I just came home from my 14year olds

lacrosse game...I can tell I am on the road to recovery and I am so,

so glad to be free of that nasty pain!!, PA

In , " kclnt777 " <kclnt777@...> wrote:

>

> Hello All,

>

> I know I haven't been on much lately, hope you are all doing well..

> Been keeping you in my prayers (especially those recovering and

> getting ready for surgery)...

>

> The reason I am writing today is becuase (I am missing my daughters

> cheerleading competition) and I could really use some advice on how

> to handle my wifes fears about my future... As I have mentioned,

This

> has been a hard year for us in terms of adjusting each month to

more

> limitations, well, I think it is starting to take its toll on her.

> She is starting to question if this is just going to be " the way it

> is from now on. "

>

> Since you are the only ones that I know going through this and so

far

> I have not read any mention of any one doing worse after surgery, I

> tell her I have an excellent chance of improving - but - will most

> likely never be exactly the same as I was a couple years ago...

>

> I would appreciate any feedback you can offer...

>

> Thank you, Ken.

>

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