Help!

[Guest guest]

I would definately follow the surgeon if he's highly recommended. This is the USA, how bad could the hospital be? Also, if he's really good and deciding to work there, it's probably a good hospital.

just my opinion :-)

good luck,

kelly (had a highly recommended surgeon and REALLY had a good expereince overall.)

[Guest guest]

I would also follow the surgeon,,,your stay in the hospital will be

short compared with the damage that can be done by a less than

competent surgeon.

Bob

>

> I would definately follow the surgeon if he's highly recommended.

This is the USA, how bad could the hospital be? Also, if he's really

good and deciding to work there, it's probably a good hospital.

> just my opinion :-)

> good luck,

> kelly (had a highly recommended surgeon and REALLY had a good

expereince overall.)

>

[Guest guest]

unless the hospital has a bad reputation, the quality of the surgeon

is going to be the key. A good surgeon in a so-so hospital will be

much better than a so-so surgeon in a good hospital

>

> I'm new to the group. I'm scheduled for a total hip replacement in

> three weeks. My surgeon is supposed to be first rate, and the

hospital

> was supposed to be first-rate. Unfortunately, my surgeon is in the

> process of moving to a different hospital. So, I've been given the

> choice of staying with the first-rate hospital but changing surgeons

> (starting over), or going to hospital that is not renown for hip

> surgeries. I'm wondering if the surgeon is more important than the

> hospital or vice versa? Did any of you research hospitals for their

> infection rates or anything else?

>

> Thanks for any help you can give me.

>

> Anne

>

[Guest guest]

AMEN

On Oct 5, 2006, at 5:27 AM, know_jack wrote:

> I would also follow the surgeon,,,your stay in the hospital will be

> short compared with the damage that can be done by a less than

> competent surgeon.

>

> Bob

>

>

> >

> > I would definately follow the surgeon if he's highly recommended.

> This is the USA, how bad could the hospital be? Also, if he's really

> good and deciding to work there, it's probably a good hospital.

> > just my opinion :-)

> > good luck,

> > kelly (had a highly recommended surgeon and REALLY had a good

> expereince overall.)

> >

>

>

The cross is the only ladder high enough to touch Heaven's threshold.

[Guest guest]

>

> I'm new to the group. I'm scheduled for a total hip replacement in

> three weeks. My surgeon is supposed to be first rate, and the

hospital

> was supposed to be first-rate. Unfortunately, my surgeon is in the

> process of moving to a different hospital. So, I've been given the

> choice of staying with the first-rate hospital but changing

surgeons

> (starting over), or going to hospital that is not renown for hip

> surgeries. I'm wondering if the surgeon is more important than the

> hospital or vice versa? Did any of you research hospitals for

their

> infection rates or anything else?

>

> Thanks for any help you can give me.

>

> Anne

>

My advice is to go with the choice of surgeon. That is more critical

than the hospital. I had THR September 6th. My surgeion was very

good, and I am recovering faster than expected. I was more concerned

with blood clots than infections.

[Guest guest]

Dotti...sounds like you made need to adjust your lifestyle and back off

a bit on your normal activities but of course a doctor needs to tell

you that. I have not heard mention of " involuntary jerking " mentioned

on here before but that does not mean it hasn't been. One thing I think

we all have to remember though is that passing medical conditions on to

our children IS " involuntary " . The genes are passed on to us AND our

kids...we don't give this to our kids. Now remind me of this if my

ends up with PA on top of everything else she has. Hope it gets

better for you soon. Love Betz

[Guest guest]

Dotti, don't panic. First, it could very well be that reducing the

clinoril has set you back some. It happened to me when I eased off a

different NSAID. If I were you, I would let the rheumy make the call

on when I should start to cut back on any meds. I know it's tempting

because we all want to be on fewer meds, but...

Second, both the long drive and the computer work are likely to

aggravate PA symptoms.

Finally, ask your rheumy if can take 325 mg Bufferin in addition to

what else you take, if you need it between doses of the other. At

one time I was taking Naproxen (an NSAID) and Tramadol (a painkiller)

morning and evening and also taking a Bufferin afternoon or middle-of-

the-night if needed to get me through. The aspirin in Bufferin is

also an anti-inflammatory and helps push that inflammation back down

as well as helping the pain.

I'll be praying for both you and your daughter. Hang in there,

sherry z

> Any ideas???? Is this normal, is it a flare up? Is it because the

> weather is cold & rainy? Because the meds aren't strong enough???

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 16/11/2006 00:16:21 GMT Standard Time,

dottijones2005@... writes:

Sorry this is long... plus my daughter Dawn is waiting for lab test

results to see if she also has PA. I hate that I may have passed

this on to her. Help!!!

Hi Dotti,

I'm sorry that you are feeling so bad at the moment. The wet weather

certainly could have something to do with it.

Dotti, I'm sorry to hear that Dawn may have PA too. I hope it turns out to be

something more temporary. If it does turn out to be PA though, you should try

not to feel responsible for passing it on. I guess it is a natural reaction

for a mother or father to have in this sort of situation, that it is our fault,

but we didn't go out to our local Auto-immune disease shop and say, Can I

have some Psoriasis please? Oh and a family sized portion of Psoriatic Arthritis

too. I'll keep that in the freezer and we will have it later.' lol I'm also

sure that Dawn wouldn't blame you either. I know I have never thought, 'I

would love to get the ancestor who started

this'.......................ok!............... Who said that they HAD thought

that? lol............ So, please, don't

blame yourself.

I don't know about the MTX stopping working. It didn't help me at all on its

own. It was only when I started taking Enbrel along with it that I started to

get results. All I can suggest is that you try to see or at least talk to you

Rheumy as soon as he or she becomes available.

In the meantime, take the rest you need. I hope someone else can help you

more than I have been able to.

I hope this doesn't last long and you are feeling better in no time.

Take care,

[Guest guest]

Hi Dotti,

I've been taking MTX for about 5 years now. I still have bouts of nausea but

enbrel

did nothing for me. I could not keep your work schedule if my life depended on

it.

No wonder you have fatigue. That is quite a day you put in. I have found that

it you

don't pace yourself, your body will make you pay. In my experience, the

medicine,

whichever one you take, will not make the pain go completely away; not will it

make

the disease go away. When you feel that kind of pain and exhaustion, you may

need to

adjust your workload. Maybe work some from home. But I would try slowing down

and see if it helps. I had to quit my job altogether. I wish I could think of

something

to make you laugh, but my mind is a blank. lol

Oh, I just thought of something. My grand-nephew, who lives in Oregon,

called my daughter Sunday

morning. He will be 6 the first week in Dec. He said, " Aunt TeeTee, I have

something

special for you.!! " He was just beside himself with excitement. She asked him,

can you

tell me now or do I have to wait? He says, I can tell you now; My tooth came

out and

the tooth fairy is coming to see me tonight. She told him how great it was and

he hung up.

The next day, my sister 's Nana calls me, and of course, he was on the

phone to her

first thing that the Tooth Fairy had left him FIVE DOLLARS. and she proceeded to

tell him

that the tooth fairy must have got his address confused with hers, because she

left $5.00

for him at her house, too. To which she could hear him call to his mother, Now

I have

Fifty five dollars. Nana says, no , that is only TEN dollars. No no,

Nana, I have

two fives, that makes FIFTY FIVE! I asked her if she intended to come up with

the

rest, she said no, but I bet Papa does. Aren't grandparents wonderful?

Janet in Ca

-------------- Original message --------------

From: " Dotti " <dottijones2005@...>

> First I want the group to know how much your posts mean to me. They

> have answered several questions, given me new ideas of coping and

> encouragement. Now I need a shot of encourgement again hoping that

> that someone else has had this experience.

>

> I had my first dose of mtx on 9/1. I had a little nausea and some

> tiredness but after a few weeks I started getting my energy back and

> was not hurting as bad. The swelling had gone down some in my ankle.

> I was acutally feeling almost " normal " again. I started easing off

> the clinoril, but still taking lyrica for nerve pain.

>

> I have an hour drive to work & an hour home each day. I sit at a

> computer and type for approx 10 hours Mon - Fri. Every day I push

> myself to keep going dispite the pain & fatigue. I don't want to

> give in to this disease. This morning I just could not push

> anymore... the pain and fatigue were too much yesterday and last

> night I ached all night. My hands and arms tingled all night long. I

> took 400 mg of otc ibuprofen and laid my right ankle on a heating

> pad and finally got some sleep. When the alarm went off at 4:15 this

> morning... I just couldn't push anymore. Every joint in my body

> hurts, some more intense than others. I'm extremely fatigued. I

> don't know if the mtx is not working anymore, or I need to get back

> on the clinoril or what the heck is going on... I had been doing

> sooo good and now I fear all the pain, tingling, numbness,

> involuntary jerking aand fatigue are coming back. My Rhumy is out of

> the office today so I made an appt with my primary care doctor at

> 4:00 this afternoon.

>

> Any ideas???? Is this normal, is it a flare up? Is it because the

> weather is cold & rainy? Because the meds aren't strong enough???

>

> Sorry this is long... plus my daughter Dawn is waiting for lab test

> results to see if she also has PA. I hate that I may have passed

> this on to her. Help!!!

>

> I need your hope, your advice, your humor (Betz, & Brent!)

> LOL your prayers.

>

> Thanks

> Dotti

>

[Guest guest]

love it . I still believe in the tooth fairy . But i don't think he'll be

coming to see me . cathy from ma

[Guest guest]

Thank you Janet for the funny story. And the advice from all of

ya'll. Would you believe... I have the FLU!!!! The doc put me on bed

rest until Monday. I had no idea! I about dropped my teeth when he

said I had the flu. I have so many of the symptons all the time

anyway... aching, low fever, fatigue.. Anyway I'm felling better.

But I am rethinking this job business. Since I have been off my feet

the swelling in my ankle has gone down so much. I have been with

this company for almost 7 yrs. It pays good and the benefits are

great so it's hard to let go. But the stress is there also. I need

to make some changes for sure. I'm 56 and I'm ready for semi

retirement! LOL Keep me in your prayers for guidance.

Thanks again for all the words of encouragement.

OH and my daughter Dawn, the md said her b-12 was too low and that

was all that was wrong with her. I told her to call him back, get a

copy of lab results and a referral to a Rhuemy. So she now has a

appt with a rhuemy. I told her you have to push the medical field

for answers!

Happy Friday to all!!!

Dotti

[Guest guest]

Oh, Dotti! So sorry to hear you have flu. I just got my flu shot

Wednesday and luckily didn't have any side effects from it. I'm

getting a pneumonia shot next Wednesday.

If it's at all possible to quit working, your body will be very happy.

My big flare had started while I was working 12 hour days, 6 days a

week. Quitting work didn't stop the flare, but there is no way I could

have continued working long term in the condition I was in. Even now,

I'm glad I am able to rest when I need to, sleep when I need to, and

sit when I need to. No way to do that when working. I am so happy and

I think my body is thankful, too. Never bored, by the way - there is so

much to do every day.

I hope everything works out good for Dawn...

sherry z

>

>Would you believe... I have the FLU!!!!

[Guest guest]

Your right Sherry, my body is very happy with me! I have so many

projects I want to do at home but working takes all my energy. My

husband and I have been married for almost two years. We both had

houses so I rented mine for a year but now I have it on the market.

If it would sell soon... I could pay off all my debts and put some

in a nest egg and find a part time job around here. Bobby is adding

me to his insurance this month but it's not as good as mine but it's

something!

It is nice to lay down and rest when I need it rather than pushing.

I'm not sure if I could apply for disabilty. I ask my Rhuemy about

writing a note to my boss saying I couldn't work more than 40 hours

a week but he said he also has PA and he works 12-14 hours a

day.... but he would write me a letter. ARRRGGG

--- In , " S. Zorzi " >

> If it's at all possible to quit working, your body will be very

happy.

> My big flare had started while I was working 12 hour days, 6 days

a

> week. Quitting work didn't stop the flare, but there is no way I

could

> have continued working long term in the condition I was in. Even

now,

> I'm glad I am able to rest when I need to, sleep when I need to,

and

> sit when I need to. No way to do that when working. I am so

happy and

> I think my body is thankful, too. Never bored, by the way - there

is so

> much to do every day.

>

> I hope everything works out good for Dawn...

>

> sherry z

>

[Guest guest]

Dotti...a shot for your daughter and rest and fluids for you and

hopefully you'll both be better in no time. I've noticed that there are

advertisements on TV this year that say " If you think you have the flu,

get to your doctor immediately " . Then they REPEAT that line for

emphasis. Seems I remember that they usually say if you have the flu,

stay home, get plenty of rest and fluids. They never wanted you in the

doctors office unless you thought you needed to be hospitalized because

they could not treat it and they did not want it spread around. Things

are different this year. They are being more aggressive with treatment.

So you take care of yourself dear one. I know it's a relief to know

what the trouble is. Cyber hugs... -Betz

[Editor's Note: One of the best friends I ever had caught the flu around

Christmas, Dec 2000. She died on New Year's Eve. I believe that people with

the flu MUST see a doctor if for no other reason than to determine if you should

be in the hospital to receive fluids, oxygen or whatever. A doctor cannot cure

the flu, but he or she can prescribe meds that will help bring the fever down

and ease other symptoms. It could be the difference between life and death. It

was for . Kathy F.]

[Guest guest]

Hi Dotti,

First off, I am sorry you have the flu, but glad that is all it is, also. Next,

your rheumy

is an idiot. But that is just my opinion. That was not an appropriate response

to you.

Check with your HR manager before you

quit altogether and see if your insurance has a short term disability, which you

can

draw, and after 26 weeks of rest and being on your PA meds, perhaps you could

do part time or at least have income while you recuperate and build up your

strength.

Then quit. This is what I had to do to get over the hump while waiting for SSD

to

kick in. It takes 5 months for that to be processed. Hope you are feeling

better

Janet in Ca

-------------- Original message --------------

From: " Dotti " <dottijones2005@...>

> > I'm not sure if I could apply for disabilty. I ask my Rhuemy about

> writing a note to my boss saying I couldn't work more than 40 hours

> a week but he said he also has PA and he works 12-14 hours a

> day.... but he would write me a letter. ARRRGGG

>

[Guest guest]

Too bad your boss can't join our group just long enough to learn that

we all progress and digress at different rates. Too bad this person

can't be thankful that he CAN work 13 -14 hours a day instead of

berating you for the fact that you can't right now. Too bad he's not

allowing life to teach him the lesson that it wants to teach him

right now. Too bad he will have to learn it another way in the

future. I really believe that every situation is here to teach us

something special and that we are not given somethingh that we cannot

handle. I also believe that if we let it make us bitter or if we

allow it to bring others down, that it will come back to bite us in

the butt at least 7 fold. Most major religions have something that

they can refer to that supports this " theory " . It's just the way of

the world it seems. There can be such joy in accepting the challenge

of the lesson that is presented to us. Too bad he is missing out on

this opportunity. At least for you, this is a reason to pity him

rather than to dislike him. Another reason to pity him is that he

will never know about the discovery I am about to share with

you.....Edy's Slow Churned Limited Edition Peppermint Ice Cream (half

the fat a third the calories of regular) with diet cream soda poured

over it to make a peppermint float. MMMMMmmmmmmmmmm. I'm loving it. -

Betz

>

> Your right Sherry, my body is very happy with me! I have so many

> projects I want to do at home but working takes all my energy. My

> husband and I have been married for almost two years. We both had

> houses so I rented mine for a year but now I have it on the market.

> If it would sell soon... I could pay off all my debts and put some

> in a nest egg and find a part time job around here. Bobby is adding

> me to his insurance this month but it's not as good as mine but

it's

> something!

>

> It is nice to lay down and rest when I need it rather than pushing.

> I'm not sure if I could apply for disabilty. I ask my Rhuemy about

> writing a note to my boss saying I couldn't work more than 40 hours

> a week but he said he also has PA and he works 12-14 hours a

> day.... but he would write me a letter. ARRRGGG

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'll say a big AMEN to that! And that peppermint

float....hmmmmmmmmmm that sounds good!

You hit the nail on the head Betz. People just don't understand!!!!

If they could walk a mile in my shoes....they would be doing better

than me if they could walk a mile! LOL

But what goes around comes around. What you give out will be

returned. I firmly believe in that!

Dotti

>

> Too bad your boss can't join our group just long enough to learn

that

> we all progress and digress at different rates. Too bad this person

> can't be thankful that he CAN work 13 -14 hours a day instead of

> berating you for the fact that you can't right now. Too bad he's

not

> allowing life to teach him the lesson that it wants to teach him

> right now. Too bad he will have to learn it another way in the

> future. I really believe that every situation is here to teach us

> something special and that we are not given somethingh that we

cannot

> handle. I also believe that if we let it make us bitter or if we

> allow it to bring others down, that it will come back to bite us in

> the butt at least 7 fold. Most major religions have something that

> they can refer to that supports this " theory " . It's just the way of

> the world it seems. There can be such joy in accepting the

challenge

> of the lesson that is presented to us. Too bad he is missing out on

> this opportunity. At least for you, this is a reason to pity him

> rather than to dislike him. Another reason to pity him is that he

> will never know about the discovery I am about to share with

> you.....Edy's Slow Churned Limited Edition Peppermint Ice Cream

(half

> the fat a third the calories of regular) with diet cream soda

poured

> over it to make a peppermint float. MMMMMmmmmmmmmmm. I'm loving

it. -

> Betz

>

>

[Guest guest]

It is a relief. I thought to myself... this is the way I'm going to feel the

rest of my life! I am feeling better. Planted 3 flats of pansies today. It was

fun but oh boy my foot is " mad " at me!!!!

Once again ..... this group keeps me sane!!

thank you

Dotti

Betsy Jack <itsbetsy@...> wrote:

Dotti...a shot for your daughter and rest and fluids for you and

hopefully you'll both be better in no time. I've noticed that there are

advertisements on TV this year that say " If you think you have the flu,

get to your doctor immediately " . Then they REPEAT that line for

emphasis. Seems I remember that they usually say if you have the flu,

stay home, get plenty of rest and fluids. They never wanted you in the

doctors office unless you thought you needed to be hospitalized because

they could not treat it and they did not want it spread around. Things

are different this year. They are being more aggressive with treatment.

So you take care of yourself dear one. I know it's a relief to know

what the trouble is. Cyber hugs... -Betz

[Editor's Note: One of the best friends I ever had caught the flu around

Christmas, Dec 2000. She died on New Year's Eve. I believe that people with the

flu MUST see a doctor if for no other reason than to determine if you should be

in the hospital to receive fluids, oxygen or whatever. A doctor cannot cure the

flu, but he or she can prescribe meds that will help bring the fever down and

ease other symptoms. It could be the difference between life and death. It was

for . Kathy F.]

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/17/2006 10:02:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, do

ttijones2005@... writes:

OH and my daughter Dawn, the md said her b-12 was too low and that

was all that was wrong with her. I told her to call him back, get a

copy of lab results and a referral to a Rhuemy. So she now has a

appt with a rhuemy. I told her you have to push the medical field

for answers!

Hi Dotti...if your family has a history of autoimmune, make sure the B-12

level is not pernicious anemia...I have this and it can also cause joint pain as

well as nervous system disorders. Pernicious anemia is actually an

autoimmune disease which affects the lining of the stomach. It causes the

lining to

be unable to produce intrinsic factor...without IF, the body cannot absorb

B12 from food, only from injection.

[Guest guest]

Thank you ... I had no idea! I'll let Dawn know about that.

>

>

> Hi Dotti...if your family has a history of autoimmune, make sure

the B-12

> level is not pernicious anemia...I have this and it can also cause

joint pain as

> well as nervous system disorders. Pernicious anemia is actually

an

> autoimmune disease which affects the lining of the stomach. It

causes the lining to

> be unable to produce intrinsic factor...without IF, the body

cannot absorb

> B12 from food, only from injection.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That was me, but I am not so sure how accurate or unbiased that site

was. This was the link:

http://healthnewsjournal.com/content/view/581/9/?source=google/Oxypower

This was the only site I found that so highly recommended colpurin

above the rest. Generally, the one cleanse that I found in my

searching that always had a high ranking and usually set the standard

was the dr. natura's colonix. I think this site is probably a little

more informative:

http://www.naturalhealingtoday.com/colon_cleanse_product_reviews.html#1

I personally am going to try the homozon(oxypowder) and the dr.

natura's cleanse as those 2 seem to be the standard by which most

pages like to compare. I would appreciate any input anyone else has

on this topic.

greg

> Yesterday or the day before, someone posted a link to a site with a

chart that compared and

> ranked several different cleansing products.

>

> I deleted that email by mistake and would love to have that link.

Does anyone have it?

>

> Thank you so much!!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Vera,

Cymbalta to me is a miracle drug. It actually HELPS with depression

and pain. I've been on Cymbalta now for six months, maybe longer. And

I suffer from chronic daily pain (osteoarthritis, lumbar disk disease,

and kidney disease.) I take methadone for my pain and also from

addiction to oxycontins, and my liver is just fine. Thank God. I do

not take too much Tylenol or no Vicodin at all. Vicodin can damage

your liver, but not really unless you totally abuse it. What really

kills the liver is if you drink alcohol. That's the worst thing you

can ever do!!!!! Cannot stress that enough.

Pot, at least in my opinion and my smoking it daily for 36 years, has

not affected my liver at all and will not according to my doctor. It

will affect my respiratory system though. In fact, I get medicinal

marijuana for my Hepatitis C to control the vomiting.

Love,

Deb

p.s. Nice to hear from you. I'm new to this group, and so far I really

like it. There are a lot of people with a wealth of information and

knowledge about their illnesses. This is important. It's no joke

having Hep C so it's good to be here.

>

> omg I am in so much pain! I think rain must be in the forecast! well

I

> can either take a vicodin or ibprofen! both bad for my liver! Is pot

> bad for my liver?cymbalta I read is good for depression and pain?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Vera,

Cymbalta to me is a miracle drug. It actually HELPS with depression

and pain. I've been on Cymbalta now for six months, maybe longer. And

I suffer from chronic daily pain (osteoarthritis, lumbar disk disease,

and kidney disease.) I take methadone for my pain and also from

addiction to oxycontins, and my liver is just fine. Thank God. I do

not take too much Tylenol or no Vicodin at all. Vicodin can damage

your liver, but not really unless you totally abuse it. What really

kills the liver is if you drink alcohol. That's the worst thing you

can ever do!!!!! Cannot stress that enough.

Pot, at least in my opinion and my smoking it daily for 36 years, has

not affected my liver at all and will not according to my doctor. It

will affect my respiratory system though. In fact, I get medicinal

marijuana for my Hepatitis C to control the vomiting.

Love,

Deb

p.s. Nice to hear from you. I'm new to this group, and so far I really

like it. There are a lot of people with a wealth of information and

knowledge about their illnesses. This is important. It's no joke

having Hep C so it's good to be here.

>

> omg I am in so much pain! I think rain must be in the forecast! well

I

> can either take a vicodin or ibprofen! both bad for my liver! Is pot

> bad for my liver?cymbalta I read is good for depression and pain?

>

[Guest guest]

pot is bad for colon and liver... and doesn't do much for pain... but is

fun.... take a vicodin..... that much tylenol is not going to hurt you. we

can have 2 g a day easily or maybe even 3..... 2 g is 1000 mg...... which

vicodin do you have? next time ask for Loritab or Loricet or percocet less

tylenol....... Why pain vera>>:>>>>>>> I hate anti d's but am now on a med

for bi polar working well... Lamictall....... WhaT KIND of pain????? take

a vicodin.... hugs, sally, my 2 cents

--- Vera <vew459@...> wrote:

> omg I am in so much pain! I think rain must be in the forecast! well I

> can either take a vicodin or ibprofen! both bad for my liver! Is pot

> bad for my liver?cymbalta I read is good for depression and pain?

>

>

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[Guest guest]

pot is bad for colon and liver... and doesn't do much for pain... but is

fun.... take a vicodin..... that much tylenol is not going to hurt you. we

can have 2 g a day easily or maybe even 3..... 2 g is 1000 mg...... which

vicodin do you have? next time ask for Loritab or Loricet or percocet less

tylenol....... Why pain vera>>:>>>>>>> I hate anti d's but am now on a med

for bi polar working well... Lamictall....... WhaT KIND of pain????? take

a vicodin.... hugs, sally, my 2 cents

--- Vera <vew459@...> wrote:

> omg I am in so much pain! I think rain must be in the forecast! well I

> can either take a vicodin or ibprofen! both bad for my liver! Is pot

> bad for my liver?cymbalta I read is good for depression and pain?

>

>

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