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At 10:15 PM 11/12/1999 PST, you wrote:

>From: " Mares " <desert-manifesto@...>

>

>Hello, my name is Mares, I'm 20 years old and I have a few quick

>questions. First, I would like to say that I enjoy your book " The Cure For

>All Diseases " , it's great. I built the zapper, but I don't seem to get any

>type of current from it, I don't feel anything when I use it, all of my

>connections are correct and it turns on, I just don't feel anything, is that

>normal or is there a problem, if so, what should I do about it? Also, I

>would like to get on the herbal parasite program, but how long should I be

>on the program? Should I use anything else with the herbs such as vitamins,

>minerals, certain foods? What exactly causes parasites and what foods

>should I stay away from?

>

>Thank you

>

>Sincerely,

>

> Mares

>

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Mores said he " read the book and built the zapper from its

instructions " . He said the zapper doesn't seem to work. My doctor said she

ordered a zapper already built and it wouldn't work, so therefore she

doesn't believe any of this. I am assuming there are many people who have

used the zapper and it does work and does help them. I would like to hear

from some of you ... and I would like to see 's question answered by

something other than " read the book " since he already said he had read it.

Obviously he doesn't understand it and is asking for help. I also am

waiting for some answers so I know how to address the same problem, since my

doctor is pooh-pawing this, so therefore my friends/support group is also.

.... Nickie

Re: Questions

> From: " R. Sooley, D.C. " <Drgeorge@...>

>

> Read the book. It will answer all these questions and much more.

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> At 10:15 PM 11/12/1999 PST, you wrote:

> >From: " Mares " <desert-manifesto@...>

> >

> >Hello, my name is Mares, I'm 20 years old and I have a few quick

> >questions. First, I would like to say that I enjoy your book " The Cure

For

> >All Diseases " , it's great. I built the zapper, but I don't seem to get

any

> >type of current from it, I don't feel anything when I use it, all of my

> >connections are correct and it turns on, I just don't feel anything, is

that

> >normal or is there a problem, if so, what should I do about it? Also, I

> >would like to get on the herbal parasite program, but how long should I

be

> >on the program? Should I use anything else with the herbs such as

vitamins,

> >minerals, certain foods? What exactly causes parasites and what foods

> >should I stay away from?

> >

> >Thank you

> >

> >Sincerely,

> >

> > Mares

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Read the book. It will answer all these questions and much more.

Dr.

At 10:15 PM 11/12/1999 PST, you wrote:

>From: " Mares " <desert-manifesto@...>

>

>Hello, my name is Mares, I'm 20 years old and I have a few quick

>questions. First, I would like to say that I enjoy your book " The Cure For

>All Diseases " , it's great. I built the zapper, but I don't seem to get any

>type of current from it, I don't feel anything when I use it, all of my

>connections are correct and it turns on, I just don't feel anything, is that

>normal or is there a problem, if so, what should I do about it? Also, I

>would like to get on the herbal parasite program, but how long should I be

>on the program? Should I use anything else with the herbs such as vitamins,

>minerals, certain foods? What exactly causes parasites and what foods

>should I stay away from?

>

>Thank you

>

>Sincerely,

>

> Mares

>

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This is my first post to this list. I will say upfront that I am not a

supporter of Dr. , but I hope I will be allowed to remain on this list

nonetheless. My goal is to get to the truth about the claims of Dr. , as

her claims are extremely far reaching, and they have the potential to lead

people to serious harm in my opinion. I don't believe Dr. has produced

verifiable evidence to support her claims of having " The Cure " for all

diseases. I am doubtful about the validity of many of her claims.

I was referred to in a press release circulated by Tim Bolen as a " parrot(?) " of

Barrett, M.D., who is a critic of Dr. , after I attempted to attend

a recent open house for Dr. in Indiana. Mr. Bolen said I " whined " when I

was asked to leave. He is not telling the whole story. I think it is fair for

me to post to this mailing list, and hopefully my post will help shed some light

on some of the questions people may have about Dr. .

I'm not a medical expert. I'm the son of a woman who died of breast cancer in

1997. I have seen all sorts of wild claims for curing or slowing cancer --

claims that are backed up with little or no verifiable significant evidence.

Believe it or not fraud and quackery do exist, both within and outside of the

medical establishment. When someone says they have " The Cure For All Cancers " ,

I expect them to prove it, not for them to insist that I prove them wrong. I'm

not the doctor, I'm not making the grand claims, and it's harder to prove a

negative.

If you're interested in knowing the views of some others, below are some links

that may be helpful:

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/clark.html

http://cancerguide.org/hulda_clark.html

http://www.pathfinder.com/drweil/qa_answer/0,3189,1006,00.html

Finally, I know conventional doctors are not always helpful, and some are just

plain bad. But they have a great deal of training, and I think most are honest

people who care and work very hard, and also suffer from disease in their own

families. Maybe Hulda is able to help some people that conventional

doctors can't. I'm sure in some cases what she prescribes seems to work. I

also know of 2 people who tried her walnut tincture, cloves and wormwood and

seemed to have bad results. But how much do you trust someone who says they

have " the cure for all diseases " , and also says,

" does this mean you can cancel your date for surgery, radiation or

chemotherapy? Yes! After curing your cancer with this recipe it cannot come

back " ?

Hulda is free in this country to write, publish and sell her books. I'm

free to ask her to back up her fantastic claims.

Thank you,

Bill Ross

" Nickie A. Shasteen " wrote:

> Mores said he " read the book and built the zapper from its

> instructions " . He said the zapper doesn't seem to work. My doctor said she

> ordered a zapper already built and it wouldn't work, so therefore she

> doesn't believe any of this. I am assuming there are many people who have

> used the zapper and it does work and does help them. I would like to hear

> from some of you ... and I would like to see 's question answered by

> something other than " read the book " since he already said he had read it.

> Obviously he doesn't understand it and is asking for help. I also am

> waiting for some answers so I know how to address the same problem, since my

> doctor is pooh-pawing this, so therefore my friends/support group is also.

> ... Nickie

> Re: Questions

>

> > From: " R. Sooley, D.C. " <Drgeorge@...>

> >

> > Read the book. It will answer all these questions and much more.

> >

> > Dr.

> >

> >

> > At 10:15 PM 11/12/1999 PST, you wrote:

> > >From: " Mares " <desert-manifesto@...>

> > >

> > >Hello, my name is Mares, I'm 20 years old and I have a few quick

> > >questions. First, I would like to say that I enjoy your book " The Cure

> For

> > >All Diseases " , it's great. I built the zapper, but I don't seem to get

> any

> > >type of current from it, I don't feel anything when I use it, all of my

> > >connections are correct and it turns on, I just don't feel anything, is

> that

> > >normal or is there a problem, if so, what should I do about it? Also, I

> > >would like to get on the herbal parasite program, but how long should I

> be

> > >on the program? Should I use anything else with the herbs such as

> vitamins,

> > >minerals, certain foods? What exactly causes parasites and what foods

> > >should I stay away from?

> > >

> > >Thank you

> > >

> > >Sincerely,

> > >

> > > Mares

> > >

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> > Drgeorge@...

> >

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Hi Bill,

Welcome to the Dr. clark list.

I don't know what your point is. You remind me of someone who after being

invited to someone's house pulls down his pants and shits on the living room

carpet then howls with self-riteous indignation as you are thrown out of the

house.

You claim that " My goal is to get to the truth about the claims of Dr.

" , but I see no evidence of that. You seem to already have your mind

made up and seek to discredit the good doctor. You post three links, one to

a jackass who spent 15 minutes reading one of Dr. s books, Dr. Barrett

(a well paid stooge of the drug and chemical companies) and one link that

seems to cast doubt on parasites. What's your point? How is this

investigating anything? I'm surprised you didn't trot out that other tired

link to the debutante who turned up her nose at Dr. 's clinic because

it didn't resemble Sloane Kettering.

> I'm not a medical expert. I'm the son of a woman who died of breast

cancer in

> 1997.

Was your mother treated by Dr. ? Was she mislead by some holistic

healer? What is your story? What is your motivation? Why this interest in

Dr. clark? There are plenty of 'quacks' out there. Dr. Budwig claims that

cottage cheese and flax oil cures cancer. What about Essiac tea or Anti

Neoplasms or Rife machines? Have you interviewed Dr. 's patients?

Have you tried the zapper? or did a liver flush? How are you investigating?

Posting links to self-serving slanders is not a great investigative

technique.

> I

> also know of 2 people who tried her walnut tincture, cloves and wormwood

and

> seemed to have bad results.

What bad results? Were they allergic? Did they get diarrhea ? what? I

like to look at both sides of the issues too, but you don't seem to be

posting complete information.

> " does this mean you can cancel your date for surgery, radiation or

> chemotherapy? Yes! After curing your cancer with this recipe it cannot

come

> back " ?

This simplistic (and untrue) slander is not worthy of anyone's intelligence.

I don't think there is a mechanism to kick people off of this list, but if

you want to be taken seriously here I think you had better do more than

parrot Barrett's crap. If you have serious misgivings with Dr.

's research, please post your own experiences and let us discuss

something serious. If you just want to warn people against Dr.

because Poisoning, burning and mutilating people is the only true way to

treat diseases then I don't think you'll find such a warm reception here.

Regards

Counts

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Counts wrote:

>

>

> Hi Bill,

>

> Welcome to the Dr. clark list.

Thanks for the warm welcome .

>

>

> I don't know what your point is. You remind me of someone who after being

> invited to someone's house pulls down his pants and shits on the living room

> carpet then howls with self-riteous indignation as you are thrown out of the

> house.

: I thought this was a mailing list for the discussion of Dr. 's

methods. It seems you are awfully sensitive to someone asking some legitimate

questions. The Quackwatch mailing list run by Dr. Barrett allows alternate

viewpoints, and those that protest as childishly as you are not long tolerated.

Why the ballistic reaction to the questioning of Dr. ? My mother used to

question her oncologist in his office, and he did not blow up over it. He

answered her questions. Of course he was not an author who has sold hundreds of

thousands of books. He also did not operate a health clinic that charges

$4,500 plus other expensese for 2 weeks, and he never claimed he could cure her

cancer.

>

>

> You claim that " My goal is to get to the truth about the claims of Dr.

> " , but I see no evidence of that. You seem to already have your mind

> made up and seek to discredit the good doctor. You post three links, one to

> a jackass who spent 15 minutes reading one of Dr. s books, Dr. Barrett

> (a well paid stooge of the drug and chemical companies) and one link that

> seems to cast doubt on parasites. What's your point? How is this

> investigating anything? I'm surprised you didn't trot out that other tired

> link to the debutante who turned up her nose at Dr. 's clinic because

> it didn't resemble Sloane Kettering.

: No need to resort to name calling. Can't you express yourself in a

better way? The above paragraph is your opinion. I hope others will read the

links and judge for themselves. What proof do you have that Barrett is a " well

paid stooge of the drug and chemical companies " ?

>

>

> > I'm not a medical expert. I'm the son of a woman who died of breast

> cancer in

> > 1997.

>

> Was your mother treated by Dr. ? **No. Was she mislead by some holistic

> healer? **Almost. What is your story? **This list is not about my story,

> it's about true information regarding Dr. hopefully. What is your

> motivation? **As I said before, I think Dr. lacks credibility, makes

> too good to be true claims about curing " All " diseases, and that she can lead

> others to harm. Why this interest in

> Dr. clark? There are plenty of 'quacks' out there. **Very few claim to have

> the cure for all diseases. Dr. Budwig claims that

> cottage cheese and flax oil cures cancer. What about Essiac tea or Anti

> Neoplasms or Rife machines? Have you interviewed Dr. 's patients?

> Have you tried the zapper? or did a liver flush? How are you investigating?

**I drove 3 hours to attend her open house and was turned away. They're

apparently afraid of some honest questions. I have called 2 patients in

Canada, one in California. They were not convincing. I've talked to numerous

people in healthfood stores about Dr. . I've made other phone calls, asked

questions on the internet, done web searches. I have called Dr. 's

publisher 4 times and did get one name to call in California that was not a cure

at all. I ask you, where are all of the advanced cancer and AIDS cases

has cured. These people would be shouting from the rooftops I would think if

they existed.

>

> Posting links to self-serving slanders is not a great investigative

> technique.

**That's your characterization.

>

>

> > I

> > also know of 2 people who tried her walnut tincture, cloves and wormwood

> and

> > seemed to have bad results.

>

> What bad results? Were they allergic? Did they get diarrhea ? what? I

> like to look at both sides of the issues too, but you don't seem to be

> posting complete information. **Nor does Dr. on those she has

> supposedly cured. These people broke out in severe skin rashes I was told.

> They are embarrased they ever tried the stuff.

>

> > " does this mean you can cancel your date for surgery, radiation or

> > chemotherapy? Yes! After curing your cancer with this recipe it cannot

> come

> > back " ?

>

> This simplistic (and untrue) slander is not worthy of anyone's intelligence.

**It may be " untrue " as you call it, but it's taken directly out of that single

page in the front of her " The Cure For All Cancers " . I believe the page is

titled, " You may not have time. "

>

>

> I don't think there is a mechanism to kick people off of this list, but if

> you want to be taken seriously here I think you had better do more than

> parrot Barrett's crap. If you have serious misgivings with Dr.

> 's research, please post your own experiences and let us discuss

> something serious. If you just want to warn people against Dr.

> because Poisoning, burning and mutilating people is the only true way to

> treat diseases then I don't think you'll find such a warm reception here.

**Again, your characterization of what I said, and I disagree.

Bill Ross

>

>

> Regards

> Counts

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<<

**I drove 3 hours to attend her open house and was turned away. They're

apparently afraid of some honest questions. >>

Not true. I was there and I knew Bill was planning on coming. I also knew his

opinion of DR , and that he was on the healthfraud list.I emailed him

and ask him what his intentions were. He didn't reply. DR had a

terrible experience in the jail at CA. and the open house was for many

friends and grateful people who have used her methods and are recovering.

Bill knew this. I told him if he wanted to hear the testimonies of people he

was welcome, if he was coming to maker a scene, we didn't need or want it.

Bill and I exchanged e-mail for a week or so after the open house. In the

beginning I told him if he was a fan of QUACK Barrett, we had nothing to

talk about. (This man's options are sickening, sorry I think the man is evil!

) I tried to answer Bill's questions. I learned that his mother had NOT tried

any of Dr 's methods!!!!!!! Yet he was ready to trash them!! He DIDN'T

want to hear anything about following her protocol. I told him if he went to

a doctor and was put on drugs..........which he didn't take, he had no right

to call the doctor a Quack.

Bill stated that if he had been Dr Jerome he would have done exactly what

Dr Jerome did. Ask him to leave. So seems the story has been twisted a bit.

Bill also told me he had not made up his mind about QUACK Barrett.

I also explained my health problems and how DR s's methods had worked

for me as well as leading me to DR Jerome who did my dental work. I believe

Bill's mind was made up, but I took time with him. It looks as though my time

was wasted.

Jan

[Guest guest]

>: I thought this was a mailing list for the discussion of Dr. 's

>methods.

Yes,Bill it is. However,it is a list for those who believe in what she

does.I too wonder at your motivation for coming on this list. We share

stories and remedies as well as support.

I say this in all honestly and without condesending intent, but I believe

this is not the list you belong on if you want to argue about the validitiy

of her claims. I believe you should move to another list for that. To stay

here is just an invitation to argue, and that is not our focus.

I believe you should be on a list of like minds of Dr. . No, this is

not a discussion list to argue for or against her.

Eileen

[Guest guest]

Eileen,

I will not post to this list anymore, unless others on the list ask that I do.

I was hoping to have some meaningful dialogue, and get some answers to many of

the questions I have about Dr. 's success rate. It looks like I'll have

to search elsewhere, as the whereabouts of Dr. 's many alleged cancer and

AIDS success stories remain shrouded in secrecy here.

Thank you for being polite, and explaining that the list is only for those who

accept what Dr. says.

Bill Ross

Path of the White Rose wrote:

>

> >: I thought this was a mailing list for the discussion of Dr. 's

> >methods.

>

> Yes,Bill it is. However,it is a list for those who believe in what she

> does.I too wonder at your motivation for coming on this list. We share

> stories and remedies as well as support.

> I say this in all honestly and without condesending intent, but I believe

> this is not the list you belong on if you want to argue about the validitiy

> of her claims. I believe you should move to another list for that. To stay

> here is just an invitation to argue, and that is not our focus.

>

> I believe you should be on a list of like minds of Dr. . No, this is

> not a discussion list to argue for or against her.

>

> Eileen

>

[Guest guest]

Bill (and all)

>>What proof do you have that Barrett is a " well

>>paid stooge of the drug and chemical companies " ?

He makes a lot of money testifying as an expert wintness on behalf of the

'Cartel'. He's also an officer of an organization (I forget it's name) that

recieves donations from cartel companies.

Dr. Barrett has set himself up as the antichrist of the holistic movement.

Below is a sampling of his drivel. The epidemic of chronic disease in this

country can be directly traced to the profit motive of the cartel that he

speaks for.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

when sugar is used in moderation as part of a normal, balanced diet, it is a

perfectly safe source of calories and eating pleasure

Some schools that teach unscientific methods (chiropractic, naturopathy,

acupuncture, and even quack nutritional methods) have achieved

accreditation. Worse yet, a small percentage of individuals trained in

reputable institutions (such as medical or dental schools or accredited

universities) have strayed from scientific thought.

The fact is that the tiny amounts of additives used in food pose no threat

to human health. Some actually protect our health by preventing spoilage,

rancidity, and mold growth.

With minor exception, molecules made in the " factories " of nature are

identical to those made in the factories of chemical companies.

The pesticide residue of our food supply is extremely small and poses no

health threat to the consumer.

most diseases have little or nothing to do with diet

Did you ever stop to think that your corner grocery, fruit market, meat

market, and supermarket are also health-food stores? They are

Quacks also lie when they claim that plants grown with natural fertilizers

(such as manure) are nutritionally superior to those grown with synthetic

fertilizers.

Fertilizers can influence the levels of certain minerals in plants, but this

is not a significant factor in the American diet.

Fluoride is necessary to build decay-resistant teeth and strong bones. The

best way to obtain adequate amounts of this important nutrient is to augment

community water supplies

Some approaches to " detoxification " are based on notions that, as a result

of intestinal stasis, intestinal contents putrefy, and toxins are formed and

absorbed, which causes chronic poisoning of the body. This

" autointoxication " theory was popular around the turn of the century but was

abandoned by the scientific community during the 1930s.

Quacks may also suggest that fecal material collects on the lining of the

intestine and causes trouble unless removed by laxatives, colonic

irrigation, special diets, and/or various herbs or food supplements that

" cleanse " the body. The falsity of this notion is obvious to doctors who

perform intestinal surgery or peer within the large intestine with a

diagnostic instrument. Fecal material does not adhere to the intestinal

lining.

a balanced diet provides the nutrients people need and that the USDA

food-group system makes balancing your diet simple.

no normal person following the U.S. Dietary Guidelines is in any danger of

vitamin deficiency

While some processing methods destroy some nutrients, others add them. A

balanced variety of foods will provide all the nourishment you need.

Food quacks relate diet not only to disease but to behavior. Some claim that

adverse reactions to additives and/or common foods cause hyperactivity in

children and even criminal behavior in adolescents and adults. These claims

are based on a combination of delusions, anecdotal evidence, and poorly

designed research.

The principles of nutrition are those of human biochemistry and physiology,

courses required in every medical school.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

>>: No need to resort to name calling.

Sorry, I didn't mean to call anyone names. I thought the very difinition

of a jackass was someone who potificated on a topic that they refused to

even consider. Every Dr. hater on the Internet posts a link to this

pathetic article.

" I'm going to admit to you right up front that I haven't carefully

researched Hulda 's theories. In fact, I've spent a total of about

fifteen minutes looking over her book, The Cure For All Cancers, in a local

health food store. That's all the time I needed to figure out if there is

anything worthwhile there, but take my advice for what it's worth. "

>>It seems you are awfully sensitive to someone asking some legitimate

>>questions.

Sorry, I didn't see any legitimate questions.

>>those that protest as childishly as you are not long tolerated

for a 51 year old computer programmer it's kind of a compliment to be called

childish. I agree I wouldn't last long on Barrett's forum.

>>I drove 3 hours to attend her open house and was turned away

Thank God Dr. 's friends had the good sense not to subject her to

insults and acusations after what she had been through already. Wrong time

and wrong place to do your Barrett Shtick.

>>I ask you, where are all of the advanced cancer and AIDS cases

>>has cured.

Amrein and Geoff were collecting testimonials to use in Dr.

's defense. They might be able to forward some of them to you.

Regardless of whether Dr. is right or wrong about each issue (no one

is right all of the time) she has done our entire culture a favor by

sounding the alarm about isopropyl alcohol pervading our food and cosmetic

industries, refrigerators that leak freon, dryer belts that shed asbestos,

etc. Just one example is her liver flushes. Gallbladder surgery is the

most lucrative surgery in this country today and totally unnecessary, since

you can flush your gallstones out painlessly and keep your gallbalder and

pay only a few dollars for supplies.

As far as I know, you are welcome to post your questions here on the list,

but if you parrot Dr. Barrett's crap put on your asbestos underwear.

Regards

Counts

Re: Questions

> From: Bill Ross <rossviva@...>

>

>

>

> Counts wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Hi Bill,

> >

> > Welcome to the Dr. clark list.

>

> Thanks for the warm welcome .

>

> >

> >

> > I don't know what your point is. You remind me of someone who after

being

> > invited to someone's house pulls down his pants and shits on the living

room

> > carpet then howls with self-riteous indignation as you are thrown out of

the

> > house.

>

> : I thought this was a mailing list for the discussion of Dr. 's

> methods. It seems you are awfully sensitive to someone asking some

legitimate

> questions. The Quackwatch mailing list run by Dr. Barrett allows

alternate

> viewpoints, and those that protest as childishly as you are not long

tolerated.

> Why the ballistic reaction to the questioning of Dr. ? My mother

used to

> question her oncologist in his office, and he did not blow up over it. He

> answered her questions. Of course he was not an author who has sold

hundreds of

> thousands of books. He also did not operate a health clinic that charges

> $4,500 plus other expensese for 2 weeks, and he never claimed he could

cure her

> cancer.

>

> >

> >

> > You claim that " My goal is to get to the truth about the claims of Dr.

> > " , but I see no evidence of that. You seem to already have your

mind

> > made up and seek to discredit the good doctor. You post three links,

one to

> > a jackass who spent 15 minutes reading one of Dr. s books, Dr.

Barrett

> > (a well paid stooge of the drug and chemical companies) and one link

that

> > seems to cast doubt on parasites. What's your point? How is this

> > investigating anything? I'm surprised you didn't trot out that other

tired

> > link to the debutante who turned up her nose at Dr. 's clinic

because

> > it didn't resemble Sloane Kettering.

>

> : No need to resort to name calling. Can't you express yourself in a

> better way? The above paragraph is your opinion. I hope others will read

the

> links and judge for themselves. What proof do you have that Barrett is a

" well

> paid stooge of the drug and chemical companies " ?

>

> >

> >

> > > I'm not a medical expert. I'm the son of a woman who died of breast

> > cancer in

> > > 1997.

> >

> > Was your mother treated by Dr. ? **No. Was she mislead by some

holistic

> > healer? **Almost. What is your story? **This list is not about my

story,

> > it's about true information regarding Dr. hopefully. What is your

> > motivation? **As I said before, I think Dr. lacks credibility,

makes

> > too good to be true claims about curing " All " diseases, and that she can

lead

> > others to harm. Why this interest in

> > Dr. clark? There are plenty of 'quacks' out there. **Very few claim to

have

> > the cure for all diseases. Dr. Budwig claims that

> > cottage cheese and flax oil cures cancer. What about Essiac tea or Anti

> > Neoplasms or Rife machines? Have you interviewed Dr. 's patients?

> > Have you tried the zapper? or did a liver flush? How are you

investigating?

>

> **I drove 3 hours to attend her open house and was turned away. They're

> apparently afraid of some honest questions. I have called 2

patients in

> Canada, one in California. They were not convincing. I've talked to

numerous

> people in healthfood stores about Dr. . I've made other phone calls,

asked

> questions on the internet, done web searches. I have called Dr. 's

> publisher 4 times and did get one name to call in California that was not

a cure

> at all. I ask you, where are all of the advanced cancer and AIDS cases

> has cured. These people would be shouting from the rooftops I would think

if

> they existed.

>

> >

> > Posting links to self-serving slanders is not a great investigative

> > technique.

>

> **That's your characterization.

>

> >

> >

> > > I

> > > also know of 2 people who tried her walnut tincture, cloves and

wormwood

> > and

> > > seemed to have bad results.

> >

> > What bad results? Were they allergic? Did they get diarrhea ? what? I

> > like to look at both sides of the issues too, but you don't seem to be

> > posting complete information. **Nor does Dr. on those she has

> > supposedly cured. These people broke out in severe skin rashes I was

told.

> > They are embarrased they ever tried the stuff.

> >

> > > " does this mean you can cancel your date for surgery, radiation or

> > > chemotherapy? Yes! After curing your cancer with this recipe it

cannot

> > come

> > > back " ?

> >

> > This simplistic (and untrue) slander is not worthy of anyone's

intelligence.

>

> **It may be " untrue " as you call it, but it's taken directly out of that

single

> page in the front of her " The Cure For All Cancers " . I believe the page

is

> titled, " You may not have time. "

>

> >

> >

> > I don't think there is a mechanism to kick people off of this list, but

if

> > you want to be taken seriously here I think you had better do more than

> > parrot Barrett's crap. If you have serious misgivings with Dr.

> > 's research, please post your own experiences and let us discuss

> > something serious. If you just want to warn people against Dr.

> > because Poisoning, burning and mutilating people is the only true way to

> > treat diseases then I don't think you'll find such a warm reception

here.

>

> **Again, your characterization of what I said, and I disagree.

>

> Bill Ross

>

> >

> >

> > Regards

> > Counts

> >

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[Guest guest]

Re: Questions

Bill,

May I offer the following: In July 1996 my wife went in for emergency

surgery to remove a large mass from her temporal lope. The neurosurgeon told

me that unless she had surgery immediately she would lapse into a coma. The

pathological studies indicated she had a stage III astrocytoma. He was only

able to remove 80% of the mass. After a 2 months of post operative recovery

she underwent a radiation treatment---the max one can get in life-time.

Scans indicated the tumor was gone. This was in Oct. of 1996. It was also in

Oct that I first saw Dr. 's book, The Cure For All Cancers. I dismissed

it as bombast without reading it. In Feb. 1997 a MRI scan indicated that the

cancer was back. We were devastated. Since there were no known effective

" chemo " treatments for brain cancer and more radiation was out of the

question, surgery was all that was left to us. It was at this time that I

recalled 's book and decided to read it. I was astonished by what I

read. We decided to try the parricide treatment. But we did not use 's

Herbs. We use a tincture of fresh-green black-walnut oil, clove oil and

wormwood which we purchase at a local heath food store under the product

label of NOW. She took a teaspoon of the stuff every day for two weeks. We

then went in and had a MRI scan. Remarkably the scan indicated a significant

reduction in the size of the tumor. But the Dr.s still advised surgery to

remove what was left. We agreed. In July of 1997 she went under the knife

again, But the surgeon was not able to remove with certainty 100% the

affected area. Post operative scans confirmed this. She continued with the

parricide program and added daily use of the zapper and also took flax oil

and cottage cheese as way fortifying her metabolism. Since July of 1997 we

have had MRI scans every six month. Every one has been clear with not a hint

of tumor or abnormality. Even our Dr. asked for the protocol we were using.

Does the treatment work? I believe it does. But one must follow the

guidelines and be willing not only to educate one's self about the disease,

but also be willing to change one's habits. I have seen a people with cancer

take 's methods apply them in limited manner, eliminate their tumors,

but later under pressure from doctors or family stop the program or fail to

take seriously the charge to change one's diet or habits. In one case a man

with terminal liver cancer got rid of his liver tumor (as per MRI scan),

but later was talked out of the protocol and life-style changes by his

doctor. And now two years later the cancer is back and yet he refuses to go

back on the program because he does not want to disappoint his doctor! Yet,

his Dr. can do nothing for him. Amazing!

I have two other incidents that I might relay at another time concerning

liver cancer if anyone is interested or you may contact me by email at

asolbach@....

A Solbach

[Guest guest]

Jello has sugar in it! I talk to an internet Naturopath & he gives herbs! i

will give you his web site, i suggest you print it all out & read how he

thinks, he describes everything real good, i know of other people who talk to

him & we have very good results. you don't necessarily have to talk to him

but you might understand what your up against. Any questions please feel

free to ask us & we'll do our best to help! my stomach has been so upset

before i couldn't move, but i was going thru a Die-off.

health-truth.com/tourprogram.htm his name is Biamonte

Keep in touch! Mogdrmom

[Guest guest]

Can only respond to the part about stomach aches.

Used to get them so bad I couldn't walk. Now that I

have tried to change my diet, not drink so much

caffine and take HC1 and digestive enzymes, I do not

have such severity. But it all returns when I drop

any one thing. Good luck, it gets better. Also,

jello has sugar, additives and many chemicals. I have

been suprised at what's in most every pre-packaged

good. I am now a big label reader.

--- " Ron, Robyn, & " <sutterrl@...>

wrote:

> Does Jello affect Candidia?

> I read it does, but I can't figure out why or if it

> was written wrong.

>

> Does anyone get unexplained stomach pains, so bad

> you have to haunch over?

>

> Has anyone had or can connect Candidia to a

> massively bad kidney infection??

>

> Is it really curable, or only controlled??

>

> What can I do if my doc thinks it doesn't exist, or

> if she just doesn't want to run the test? Is there

> a test I could at home to find out??

>

> I have so many more questions. I keep looking at

> all different websites about it and when I think I

> know what is going on, I find a website that

> contradicts what I just read. VERY FRUSTRATING!!

>

> Well thank you for taking the time to read this!!

> )

>

> --

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[Guest guest]

Matty O'Shea wrote:

> Can only respond to the part about stomach aches.

> Used to get them so bad I couldn't walk. Now that I

> have tried to change my diet, not drink so much

> caffine and take HC1 and digestive enzymes, I do not

> have such severity. But it all returns when I drop

> any one thing.

Hello - I'm writing from England and was very interested in Matty's mail. Were

the stomach

aches in the form of pain or tension that started when you moved, and even

caused breathing

difficulty? That's my story and I desparately want to know the cause: candida,

IBS,

hiatus hernia, CFS or whatever. It's driving me round the bend, and my radar

went into

action when I read this.

[Guest guest]

You are so right about reading those lables. Our whole family is on a

natural diet now. We make everything from scratch. I look for no sugar in

everything. Or, no artificial sugars. I look for things that are going to

be healthy for us all. We all should share our recipies with each other,

and live styles to help each other develope ways to get rid of all of this

garbage. I only have problems when I cheat on the sugar thing. I eat

tortias instead of bread with my eggs in the morning. Lots of fresh

veggies, lean meat, chicken, and fish. Remember in the olden days they did

not have sugar. Myra

Re: Questions

Can only respond to the part about stomach aches.

Used to get them so bad I couldn't walk. Now that I

have tried to change my diet, not drink so much

caffine and take HC1 and digestive enzymes, I do not

have such severity. But it all returns when I drop

any one thing. Good luck, it gets better. Also,

jello has sugar, additives and many chemicals. I have

been suprised at what's in most every pre-packaged

good. I am now a big label reader..

--- " Ron, Robyn, & " <sutterrl@...>

wrote:

> Does Jello affect Candidia?

> I read it does, but I can't figure out why or if it

> was written wrong..

>

> Does anyone get unexplained stomach pains, so bad

> you have to haunch over?

>

> Has anyone had or can connect Candidia to a

> massively bad kidney infection??

>

> Is it really curable, or only controlled??

>

> What can I do if my doc thinks it doesn't exist, or

> if she just doesn't want to run the test? Is there

> a test I could at home to find out??

>

> I have so many more questions. I keep looking at

> all different websites about it and when I think I

> know what is going on, I find a website that

> contradicts what I just read. VERY FRUSTRATING!!

>

> Well thank you for taking the time to read this!!

> )

>

> --

> Send blank message to

> candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to

> UNSUBSCRIBE !

>

[Guest guest]

Hi , sorry to hear about your pain, but I know it

is treatable by doing several things: identifying

trigger foods, liquids and emotions; dertermining

digestive functioning; identifying whether yeast and

parasites are causing you to not digest and absorb

your food. The pains I would get seemed to come most

often and severly after I drank any caffine on an

empty stomach, when I got stressed out (I perform and

would get bad case of the bleches (sp?) before a show

or when I had an argument). It would also happen for

no seemingly particular reason. It would hurt no

matter what I did but definitely more when i moved.

The severe bloating in my gut makes it very hard to

breathe. I still get these attacks often because I am

not out of the woods and I cheat on the food alot.

For me, i have discovered that yeast and parasites and

low stomach acid have made me unable to digest, absorb

and expell my food. It sits there in my gut and makes

me miserable. I go to the dr. today to start tests to

put a name on all this, but the " cure " i've been doing

before my insurance kicked in has been working.

Working in the sense that as I have starting to rid my

body of the yeast and parasites (and going throught

severe bloat and die-off reactions from the little

dying buggers)my stomach pains are less severe. I can

stand the current discomfort of die off (which is

worse than anything I had before) because I know I am

on the right track. Good luck, I hope I helped with

my story. Matty

--- " Rev. Hinkley " <bhinkley@...> wrote:

>

>

> Matty O'Shea wrote:

>

> > Can only respond to the part about stomach aches.

> > Used to get them so bad I couldn't walk. Now that

> I

> > have tried to change my diet, not drink so much

> > caffine and take HC1 and digestive enzymes, I do

> not

> > have such severity. But it all returns when I

> drop

> > any one thing.

>

> Hello - I'm writing from England and was very

> interested in Matty's mail. Were the stomach

> aches in the form of pain or tension that started

> when you moved, and even caused breathing

> difficulty? That's my story and I desparately want

> to know the cause: candida, IBS,

> hiatus hernia, CFS or whatever. It's driving me

> round the bend, and my radar went into

> action when I read this.

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

...

> dying buggers)my stomach pains are less severe. I can

> stand the current discomfort of die off (which is

> worse than anything I had before) because I know I am

> on the right track. Good luck, I hope I helped with

...

A personal observation (not yet 100% science fact) but

may help some of you to avoid the worst moments of pain:

drink *lots* of clean water.

Yeast produces poisons and toxins (AFAIK) and drinking

lots of water speeds up the digestive system and helps

your body get rid of them.

Tell me if this helps you. (It has helped me, but I haven't

been diagnosed or received any medication for candidiasis,

so I can't speak for certain.)

Can someone tell me the symptoms of a die-off?

How does it feel? Are the effects the same as

eating yeast products?

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Ron, Robyn, & wrote:

> Does Jello affect Candidia?

> I read it does, but I can't figure out why or if it was written wrong.

It has sugar.

> Does anyone get unexplained stomach pains, so bad you have to haunch over?

Migh be also allergic reactions?

> Has anyone had or can connect Candidia to a massively bad kidney infection??

To kidney pain at least.

> Is it really curable, or only controlled??

I'm told everyone has candidia, and for some of us, our

immune system fails to keep it under control due to some factors?

> What can I do if my doc thinks it doesn't exist, or if she just

> doesn't want to run the test? Is there a test I could at home to

> find out??

Change your doctor. Go talk to a doctor of biology about yeasts.

Medical doctors only know a list of diseases by heart and their cures.

They have no brains to understand something witch doesn't match

anything they've been taught. They could and should be replaced with

an AI computer. They would do a much better job anyway. AFAIK, MOST

candidia patients have experiences with useless doctors.

Test yourself by eliminating alcohol, sugar and yeast out of your

diet. Compare the foodlists that cause you symptoms. Compare the

symptoms.

> I have so many more questions. I keep looking at all different

> websites about it and when I think I know what is going on, I find

> a website that contradicts what I just read. VERY FRUSTRATING!!

Web is full of shit, " doctors " with miracle cures, and people who

don't know shit.

One word: Yeast. Get an advanced biology text book and learn all you

can about yeast, what feeds it and what kills it. That's the key.

If not, get hold of a biology doctorate and talk to him or her about

yeasts. THEY *know* this stuff WAY better than any medical doctors

I've met.

++ J

[Guest guest]

You are so right about this one. We need to talk. Myra

Re: Questions

> On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Ron, Robyn, & wrote:

>

> > Does Jello affect Candidia?

> > I read it does, but I can't figure out why or if it was written wrong..

>

> It has sugar..

>

> > Does anyone get unexplained stomach pains, so bad you have to haunch

over?

>

> Migh be also allergic reactions?

>

> > Has anyone had or can connect Candidia to a massively bad kidney

infection??

>

> To kidney pain at least..

>

> > Is it really curable, or only controlled??

>

> I'm told everyone has candidia, and for some of us, our

> immune system fails to keep it under control due to some factors?

>

> > What can I do if my doc thinks it doesn't exist, or if she just

> > doesn't want to run the test? Is there a test I could at home to

> > find out??

>

> Change your doctor. Go talk to a doctor of biology about yeasts..

>

> Medical doctors only know a list of diseases by heart and their cures..

> They have no brains to understand something witch doesn't match

> anything they've been taught. They could and should be replaced with

> an AI computer. They would do a much better job anyway. AFAIK, MOST

> candidia patients have experiences with useless doctors..

>

> Test yourself by eliminating alcohol, sugar and yeast out of your

> diet. Compare the foodlists that cause you symptoms. Compare the

> symptoms..

>

> > I have so many more questions. I keep looking at all different

> > websites about it and when I think I know what is going on, I find

> > a website that contradicts what I just read. VERY FRUSTRATING!!

>

> Web is full of shit, " doctors " with miracle cures, and people who

> don't know shit..

>

> One word: Yeast. Get an advanced biology text book and learn all you

> can about yeast, what feeds it and what kills it. That's the key..

> If not, get hold of a biology doctorate and talk to him or her about

> yeasts. THEY *know* this stuff WAY better than any medical doctors

> I've met..

>

> ++ J

>

>

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Every one one the list has die off in different ways. One person said it

was like the flu, another one said they craved more sugar and got past that.

So you just have to stay in contact with your body. Myra

Re: Questions

> ..

>

> > dying buggers)my stomach pains are less severe. I can

> > stand the current discomfort of die off (which is

> > worse than anything I had before) because I know I am

> > on the right track. Good luck, I hope I helped with

>

> ..

>

> A personal observation (not yet 100% science fact) but

> may help some of you to avoid the worst moments of pain:

> drink *lots* of clean water..

>

> Yeast produces poisons and toxins (AFAIK) and drinking

> lots of water speeds up the digestive system and helps

> your body get rid of them..

>

> Tell me if this helps you. (It has helped me, but I haven't

> been diagnosed or received any medication for candidiasis,

> so I can't speak for certain.)

>

> Can someone tell me the symptoms of a die-off?

> How does it feel? Are the effects the same as

> eating yeast products?

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

I suggest looking up health-truth.com/tour program.htm It is a web

site of Biamonte of whom i have been following for the past 2 yrs &

have had good results. You don't have to call him if you don't want but print

out all his literature, he explains his theory & it makes sense. I keep my

own Dr. here in town for emergencies & have given her the information so she

is learning some about Candida. & she agrees he is helping where she couldn't

& my body was certainly doing some weird things she didn't understand. Good

Luck! keep in touch, we all have different opinions, but basically it all

works, some of us take different routes & have success, i suggest reading his

material it is the best i have found. Have a good day! Mogdrmom

[Guest guest]

Hi, MGN3 is made of the outer layer, bran of brown

rice. It has alot of iP6 in it. My husband is on

Cantron(previusly called Cancell) we can not take ip6

becaues the two are contradictory to each other. i did

hear it is a good product. will you plaese put me in

touch with someone who is using it? i can give you a

name of a woman with breast cancer with mets to bones

who was given a short time to live she refused chemo

and did only Cancell she is almost clean now. never

went to the hospital. esty

--- harmony1@... wrote:

> I'm wondering if anyone has tried MGN-3 or IP-6 and

> what were your

> results or the results of the patient. My Mom

> started taking mgn-3 and

> a friends Dad has been taking IP-6 for a while. He

> has colon cancer that

>

> has mestastised to his liver. His Dr. gave him 2

> weeks to live several

> monnths ago and he looks and feels great. He is very

> active and no pain.

>

> Mom has breast cancer and is scheduled for surgery

> in a few weeks.

> I read that they are both active in building the

> immune system up and

> also

> killer T-cells. What do you think ?

> Ann

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Ann,

I had a lump removed last Dec. 1999, I take mgn-3 now. My advice is that

your mother have a couple of tests now before surgery they are ca27.29 and

amas both are blood test. The Ca 27.29 is a breast cancer marker and can

tell you what treatments are helping. Taking the test now would give a good

basis to tell if numbers become more normal that maybe surgery is all that is

needed. It could prevent unnecessary use of chemo or radiation. I wish

someone had advised me of this before my surgery. I have these tests every 3

months to monitor my treatments. My doctor recommended mgn-3 so I feel it is

good for me. Your mother can be muscle tested if you know someone good at

it. Hope this helps.

Ann

[Guest guest]

DIANNE

I THINK EACH CASE IS DIFFERENT LIKE YOU SAID. BUT I'VE HEARD THAT SOME KIDS

WITH JRA GET IN MEDICAL REMISSION AND HAVE NO OR LITTLE SIGNS OF JRA AT ALL.

MY DAUGHTER HAS PAUCI JRA AND ON HER GOOD DAYS SHE HAS STIFFNESS IN THE

MORNINGS THAT CAN BE GREATLY RELIEVED BY A WARM BATH BEFORE SCHOOL.

SHE IS NOT IN REMISSION YET AND WHEN SHE " FLARES " SHE CAN BE REDUCED TO

NEEDING HELP FOR EVERYDAY THINGS WE TAKE FOR GRANTED WHEN SHE ISN'T FLARING.

SUCH AS WALKING ,FEEDING HERSELF, USING THE BATHROOM BY HERSELF,ETC.

WELL I WOULD WRITE MORE BUT SHE JUST WOKE UP WITH A NIGHT TERROR BETTER GO.

CHARLENE(CHYCHYS MOM)

[Guest guest]

Diane,

First of all, there is no such thing as a stupid question! Flares are

when joints are swelling and painful, fevers, etc... basically its the jra

" acting up " . They can occur at any time, and can last as long as a day or

months. It does vary from person to person, and is pretty much

unpredictable. I know with my daughter, Kelsey, that when she is sick her

joints are more swollen, warmer, and she has more pain. And sometimes her

joints will flare up for no apparent reason, and be better by the next day.

When Kelsey is feeling her best, you would never know she has jra. So we

have learned to take these good days we've been having for all they're worth,

enjoying every minute of them.