Re: Anyone else's 3 mo setback last 2 months?

October 6, 2010

Hi Adam,

Again I can realte - but just last week I started taking a few tablespoons of

virgin coconut oil each day, and I am feeling amazing again. I am also pureeing

EVERYTHING - just to be safe. I saw my symptoms start to go away after a couple

days of:

breakfast: mashed ripe banana, tablespoon+, coconut oil, honey,

lunch: same as breakfast or dinner

dinner: pureed soup broth (boiled carrot, celery, onion)

6 days later, I feel great. I have also added back in cheeseburgers, eggs,

chicken, yogurt, pumpkin, pears, almond butter, squash.

I read great stuff about coconut oil, it's anti-inflamatory, great for killing

yeast, helps people loose weight, check out links below. I did feel a " die-off "

rumbling tummy the first couple days on coconut oil, and am still eating honey

(which would feed yeast, if thats what I have, which I doubt) but anyhow, I have

seen drastic improvements. I am no longer waking up in horrible pain each night

- last 3 days/nights - totally pain free!!!

I have read that some get diareha from coconut oil, but it firmed up my stools

which had been loose/soft for months. I also believe it seriously helped with

the infalmation. I also no longer eat anything after 5pm.

Oh, and my favorite new treat: I mix up almond butter and honey, roll it in

melted coconut oil, freeze, and each throughout the day for energy. My non-scd

family thinks they are just as yummy as any candybar.

http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org/

http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/

I realize some may totally disagree with me - but I firmly believe the addition

of 3 tbsp coconut oil/day has gotten me out of the 3 month flare - and feeling

awesome again, no burning pain, no bloating, no cramping! They also say to

gradually add coconut oil to your diet, starting very slow, but I did jump right

in. You can buy virgin coconut oil in most health food stores, expeller pressed

would be a second choice.

Good Luck!!!

-

SCD 4 months

>

> I am beginning to become greatly discouraged with my current situation. I did

so well for the first three months and then fell off of a cliff about 7 weeks

ago with a terrible flare. I actually had to be hospitalized for the first time

this weekend but refuse to go back to my old diet because this worked so well

when no meds did.

>

> Since Friday I have gone back to the intro, only eating chx soup, hamburger

patties and small amounts of homemade yogurt but I am not improving. The first

go around I was back to normal bathroom trips in 7 days but now iIt seems like

the foods I successfully reintroduced initially are not working well with me

now. I tried really ripe bananas, avocados, squash purée and others and nothing

is working.

>

> Has any one else experienced such a long setback then returned to a successful

scd? Any suggestions on what I should try and reintroduce next? The first

reintroduction I couldn't handle fish, eggs or dairy (except the yogurt). It

also seems like roasted chicken, which worked well last time really hurts me

now.

>

> Sigh...

>

October 6, 2010

Thanks so much, I will try that for sure!

> >

> > I am beginning to become greatly discouraged with my current situation. I

did so well for the first three months and then fell off of a cliff about 7

weeks ago with a terrible flare. I actually had to be hospitalized for the

first time this weekend but refuse to go back to my old diet because this worked

so well when no meds did.

> >

> > Since Friday I have gone back to the intro, only eating chx soup, hamburger

patties and small amounts of homemade yogurt but I am not improving. The first

go around I was back to normal bathroom trips in 7 days but now iIt seems like

the foods I successfully reintroduced initially are not working well with me

now. I tried really ripe bananas, avocados, squash purée and others and nothing

is working.

> >

> > Has any one else experienced such a long setback then returned to a

successful scd? Any suggestions on what I should try and reintroduce next?

The first reintroduction I couldn't handle fish, eggs or dairy (except the

yogurt). It also seems like roasted chicken, which worked well last time really

hurts me now.

> >

> > Sigh...

> >

>

October 6, 2010

> I am beginning to become greatly discouraged with my current situation. I did

so well for the first three months and then fell off of a cliff about 7 weeks

ago with a terrible flare. I actually had to be hospitalized for the first time

this weekend but refuse to go back to my old diet because this worked so well

when no meds did.

>

> Since Friday I have gone back to the intro, only eating chx soup, hamburger

patties and small amounts of homemade yogurt but I am not improving. The first

go around I was back to normal bathroom trips in 7 days but now iIt seems like

the foods I successfully reintroduced initially are not working well with me

now. I tried really ripe bananas, avocados, squash purée and others and nothing

is working.

>

> Has any one else experienced such a long setback then returned to a successful

scd?

Yeah - it took me about 4 months to get back on track after my 3 month flare -

though nothing as bad

as being hospitalized, just a return to symptoms. In retrospect, I believe I

was having an overgrowth

of yeast.

Have you tried starting s. boulardii and upping the dose until you hit about 3

or 4 or 5 in the chance

that you may be effected by yeast overgrowth?

Also, have you considered LDN?

If you are doing anything else - like natural antifungals, antibacterials, other

forms of supplementation,

you should stop it for the meanwhile. I might experiment with stopping the

yogurt as well for the meanwhile

to see if that changes anything - might or might not.

Can you eat pureed zucchini or pureed spinach or carrots?

> Any suggestions on what I should try and reintroduce next? The first

reintroduction I couldn't handle fish, eggs or dairy (except the yogurt). It

also seems like roasted chicken, which worked well last time really hurts me

now.

I'd probably stick with broths for a few days - sounds like you are having

intense inflammation

everywhere and everything is kind of being reactive for you. Chicken and meat

and fish broth

for a little while.

Mara

October 6, 2010

I haven't heard of s. boulardii but figure I am getting a good amount of

probiotic through the yogurt. What is the difference? Is it too much to take

both. How does s. boulardii help with yeast overgrowth?

I haven't done well with the veg you mentioned except purée carrots/squash.

Could that help in the healing?

Also not sure what ldn is but will look into it.

>

> > I am beginning to become greatly discouraged with my current situation. I

did so well for the first three months and then fell off of a cliff about 7

weeks ago with a terrible flare. I actually had to be hospitalized for the

first time this weekend but refuse to go back to my old diet because this worked

so well when no meds did.

> >

> > Since Friday I have gone back to the intro, only eating chx soup, hamburger

patties and small amounts of homemade yogurt but I am not improving. The first

go around I was back to normal bathroom trips in 7 days but now iIt seems like

the foods I successfully reintroduced initially are not working well with me

now. I tried really ripe bananas, avocados, squash purée and others and nothing

is working.

> >

> > Has any one else experienced such a long setback then returned to a

successful scd?

>

> Yeah - it took me about 4 months to get back on track after my 3 month flare -

though nothing as bad

> as being hospitalized, just a return to symptoms. In retrospect, I believe I

was having an overgrowth

> of yeast.

>

> Have you tried starting s. boulardii and upping the dose until you hit about 3

or 4 or 5 in the chance

> that you may be effected by yeast overgrowth?

>

> Also, have you considered LDN?

>

> If you are doing anything else - like natural antifungals, antibacterials,

other forms of supplementation,

> you should stop it for the meanwhile. I might experiment with stopping the

yogurt as well for the meanwhile

> to see if that changes anything - might or might not.

>

> Can you eat pureed zucchini or pureed spinach or carrots?

>

> > Any suggestions on what I should try and reintroduce next? The first

reintroduction I couldn't handle fish, eggs or dairy (except the yogurt). It

also seems like roasted chicken, which worked well last time really hurts me

now.

>

> I'd probably stick with broths for a few days - sounds like you are having

intense inflammation

> everywhere and everything is kind of being reactive for you. Chicken and meat

and fish broth

> for a little while.

>

> Mara

>

October 6, 2010

S. boulardii looks like a good probiotic helper in wipping out the bad yeasts, I

actually ordered some last week as I was willing to try anthing - it still

hasn't arrived, but now I don't even feel like I need it after eating all this

coconut oil. strange but true!

here is a place to buy it, and some good info on S. boulardii:

http://www.giprohealth.com/saccharomycesboulardii.aspx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saccharomyces_boulardii

-

SCD 4 Months

> >

> > > I am beginning to become greatly discouraged with my current situation. I

did so well for the first three months and then fell off of a cliff about 7

weeks ago with a terrible flare. I actually had to be hospitalized for the

first time this weekend but refuse to go back to my old diet because this worked

so well when no meds did.

> > >

> > > Since Friday I have gone back to the intro, only eating chx soup,

hamburger patties and small amounts of homemade yogurt but I am not improving.

The first go around I was back to normal bathroom trips in 7 days but now iIt

seems like the foods I successfully reintroduced initially are not working well

with me now. I tried really ripe bananas, avocados, squash purée and others and

nothing is working.

> > >

> > > Has any one else experienced such a long setback then returned to a

successful scd?

> >

> > Yeah - it took me about 4 months to get back on track after my 3 month flare

- though nothing as bad

> > as being hospitalized, just a return to symptoms. In retrospect, I believe

I was having an overgrowth

> > of yeast.

> >

> > Have you tried starting s. boulardii and upping the dose until you hit about

3 or 4 or 5 in the chance

> > that you may be effected by yeast overgrowth?

> >

> > Also, have you considered LDN?

> >

> > If you are doing anything else - like natural antifungals, antibacterials,

other forms of supplementation,

> > you should stop it for the meanwhile. I might experiment with stopping the

yogurt as well for the meanwhile

> > to see if that changes anything - might or might not.

> >

> > Can you eat pureed zucchini or pureed spinach or carrots?

> >

> > > Any suggestions on what I should try and reintroduce next? The first

reintroduction I couldn't handle fish, eggs or dairy (except the yogurt). It

also seems like roasted chicken, which worked well last time really hurts me

now.

> >

> > I'd probably stick with broths for a few days - sounds like you are having

intense inflammation

> > everywhere and everything is kind of being reactive for you. Chicken and

meat and fish broth

> > for a little while.

> >

> > Mara

> >

>

October 6, 2010

s. boulardii help with yeast overgrowth directly. It's a non-

colonizing yeast that eats pathogenic yeast. So it will help

with that in an entirely different manner than regular probiotics

which, IME, don't do much for yeast overgrowth, or if so,

very, very slowly.

So if that is what you have right now, it can help.

Mara