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The other test is a urine test that measure xylose. I found info on xylose

at http://www.innvista.com/health/nutrition/essensug/xylose.htm

At 05:21 PM 2/16/2006, Barella wrote:

>Sharon,

>Just got back from Stanford in December and met with Dr. Gray and Dr.

>Plye there to have another biopsy. Dr. Pyle issued a fecal fat tests, a

>test that measures the amount of fat in your stool over a 72 hour period.

>You have to consume 80-100 grams of fat per day and go to the bathroom in a

>bucket for 3 days. This was my 3rd test (like this) so it is not that hard

>to do and well worth it. The fat grams in the sttol are quantified and then

>if you are less than 7.5 (some say 5.0 grams) then you are considered to be

>NORMALLY absorbing. Remember, if you are loosing lots of fat then you are

>loosing fat soluable vitamins and minerals. Let me know if that helps.

>

>---------------------------------------------------------

> A. Barella

>Ph.D. Student in Exercise & Sport Psychology

>Graduate Research and Teaching Assistant

>Department of Exercise and Sport Science

>The University of North Carolina at Greensboro

>Room 250 HHP Building

>Greensboro, NC 27402

>Email: lisabarella@...

>Phone/Cell (with VM): (336) 253-5539

>Fax: (336) 545-4486

>

> " There are two primary choices in life: to accept conditions as they exist,

>or accept the responsbility for changing them " - Denis Waitley

>

>

>

>

>

> >From: Sharon Wood <swoodsf@...>

> >Reply-

> >

> >Subject: RE: [ ] View of the McD's issue from a celiac expert

> >Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:52:06 -0800 (PST)

> >

> >How are absorption rates tested, and is that something we should ask for

> >regularly?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Sharon Wood

> >

> >Newbury <pknewbury@...> wrote:

> > A couple of years ago the Celiac Sprue Research Foundation at

> >Stanford University was doing preliminary tests to determine the best way

> >to find out if celiacs had been affected by gluten. An incidental finding

> >was that most of the celiacs whose absorption was tested while they were on

> >a strict GF diet had slightly below-normal absorption. In other words,

> >their intestines were not absorbing nutrients as well as an average person.

> > This is expected in celiacs who are consuming gluten, but the assumption

> >before had been that absorption would return to normal after a period of

> >years on the GF diet; for unknown reasons, these celiacs, while greatly

> >improved, had not returned completely to normal. Interestingly, they also

> >found that the first sign of gluten-exposure was lowered absorption rates.

> >

> > Keep in mind that this was a small sample and that they weren't studying

> >this particular phenomenon; this was just an interesting result that Dr.

> >Gray mentioned in his speech at the conference a couple of years ago. I

> >would truly like to see more research done on this subject; I think it

> >raises interesting issues for celiacs.

> >

> > Let me know if you have further questions.

> >

> > Pam Newbury

> >Santa Cruz Celiac Support Group

> >831-423-6904

> >pknewbury@...

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> >From:

> >[mailto: ]On Behalf Of flatcat9@...

> >Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:57 AM

> >

> >Subject: Re: [ ] View of the McD's issue from a celiac expert

> >

> >

> >Pam, I'm sorry, but I don't understand. Can you rephrase so I can follow

> >properly?

> >H.

> >In a message dated 2/12/06 8:13:45 AM, pknewbury@... writes:

> >

> >

> > One issue that is important to consider in this is that celiacs who

> >strictly adhere to the GF diet have been shown to have lower-than-normal

> >absorption; I have wondered if this is due to just such assumptions that

> >products are safe when they really are not.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Yes, I did that one too. But the fecal fat (as YUCKY as it was) was less

painless. The xylose requires sitting at the Lab for 5 hours and peeing and

giving blood (without eating the night before). I am not good on 20 hour

fasts! He he he:)

---------------------------------------------------------

A. Barella

Ph.D. Student in Exercise & Sport Psychology

Graduate Research and Teaching Assistant

Department of Exercise and Sport Science

The University of North Carolina at Greensboro

Room 250 HHP Building

Greensboro, NC 27402

Email: lisabarella@...

Phone/Cell (with VM): (336) 253-5539

Fax: (336) 545-4486

" There are two primary choices in life: to accept conditions as they exist,

or accept the responsbility for changing them " - Denis Waitley

>From: Rohlfs <kellyr@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: [ ] Absorption tests

>Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 08:18:21 -0800

>

>,

>The other test is a urine test that measure xylose. I found info on xylose

>at http://www.innvista.com/health/nutrition/essensug/xylose.htm

>

>

>

>At 05:21 PM 2/16/2006, Barella wrote:

> >Sharon,

> >Just got back from Stanford in December and met with Dr. Gray and

>Dr.

> >Plye there to have another biopsy. Dr. Pyle issued a fecal fat tests, a

> >test that measures the amount of fat in your stool over a 72 hour period.

> >You have to consume 80-100 grams of fat per day and go to the bathroom in

>a

> >bucket for 3 days. This was my 3rd test (like this) so it is not that

>hard

> >to do and well worth it. The fat grams in the sttol are quantified and

>then

> >if you are less than 7.5 (some say 5.0 grams) then you are considered to

>be

> >NORMALLY absorbing. Remember, if you are loosing lots of fat then you

>are

> >loosing fat soluable vitamins and minerals. Let me know if that helps.

> >

> >---------------------------------------------------------

> > A. Barella

> >Ph.D. Student in Exercise & Sport Psychology

> >Graduate Research and Teaching Assistant

> >Department of Exercise and Sport Science

> >The University of North Carolina at Greensboro

> >Room 250 HHP Building

> >Greensboro, NC 27402

> >Email: lisabarella@...

> >Phone/Cell (with VM): (336) 253-5539

> >Fax: (336) 545-4486

> >

> > " There are two primary choices in life: to accept conditions as they

>exist,

> >or accept the responsbility for changing them " - Denis Waitley

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >From: Sharon Wood <swoodsf@...>

> > >Reply-

> > >

> > >Subject: RE: [ ] View of the McD's issue from a celiac

>expert

> > >Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:52:06 -0800 (PST)

> > >

> > >How are absorption rates tested, and is that something we should ask

>for

> > >regularly?

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > > Sharon Wood

> > >

> > >Newbury <pknewbury@...> wrote:

> > > A couple of years ago the Celiac Sprue Research Foundation at

> > >Stanford University was doing preliminary tests to determine the best

>way

> > >to find out if celiacs had been affected by gluten. An incidental

>finding

> > >was that most of the celiacs whose absorption was tested while they

>were on

> > >a strict GF diet had slightly below-normal absorption. In other words,

> > >their intestines were not absorbing nutrients as well as an average

>person.

> > > This is expected in celiacs who are consuming gluten, but the

>assumption

> > >before had been that absorption would return to normal after a period

>of

> > >years on the GF diet; for unknown reasons, these celiacs, while greatly

> > >improved, had not returned completely to normal. Interestingly, they

>also

> > >found that the first sign of gluten-exposure was lowered absorption

>rates.

> > >

> > > Keep in mind that this was a small sample and that they weren't

>studying

> > >this particular phenomenon; this was just an interesting result that

>Dr.

> > >Gray mentioned in his speech at the conference a couple of years ago.

>I

> > >would truly like to see more research done on this subject; I think it

> > >raises interesting issues for celiacs.

> > >

> > > Let me know if you have further questions.

> > >

> > > Pam Newbury

> > >Santa Cruz Celiac Support Group

> > >831-423-6904

> > >pknewbury@...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > >From:

> > >[mailto: ]On Behalf Of flatcat9@...

> > >Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:57 AM

> > >

> > >Subject: Re: [ ] View of the McD's issue from a celiac

>expert

> > >

> > >

> > >Pam, I'm sorry, but I don't understand. Can you rephrase so I can

>follow

> > >properly?

> > >H.

> > >In a message dated 2/12/06 8:13:45 AM, pknewbury@... writes:

> > >

> > >

> > > One issue that is important to consider in this is that celiacs who

> > >strictly adhere to the GF diet have been shown to have

>lower-than-normal

> > >absorption; I have wondered if this is due to just such assumptions

>that

> > >products are safe when they really are not.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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