Re: Parasites AGAIN! -now: diet incl soy info/link

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Below is an off-list exchange from this thread that I have received permission

to pass to the group as it has some good info including a must read article on

some of the negative health issues of soy, especially soy protein:

Subject: Immusist questions

Hi Rita.

Did you do any special diets with Immusist? We have tried a slew of

treatments/diets, and my son is currently GF/SF/CF and almost everything else

free. My husband has kinda had it with the diet (even though it doesn't affect

his life AT ALL!) since after three years of it, we haven't seen any gains we

can attribute to diet. When he has infractions, we also don't see any negatives.

I'm keeping him on it while I do MMS but was thinking if we drop MMS and just do

immusist, maybe we'd let in some gluten or corn or soy now and then. Any input

on this? From the families you've seen, did most do diets?

Thanks again so much! I always read your posts as they are positive,

informative, and kind. You're a real asset on the board!

S

-------------------

S,

Diets...we have used special diets...but after so many years we do have

infractions w/HNI Trienza enzymes w/no negatives. We are mainly GF/CF, low

sugar, allergy removal/rotation & I try & keep us away from antinutrients. I

look at food for it's benefit to the body. We try & use our Vitamix @ least once

a day to include things like cranberry juice (for it's antibacterial effects),

greens (we used Kale today for it's high nutritional & binding values), coconut

milk for it's good fats, raw honey for its high nutritional value, extra

cinnamon for it's anti-fungal properties, etc.

What we ARE feeding the cell is just as important to me in trying to turn around

my families health as what I'm not feeding my child. Many in our WA group do

diets, many have healed to the point that they can add back foods, & some are

still progressing on no special diets/no docs/no supplements but Immusist (I'm

just seeing the children in the last catagory that can only do minimum just

improve slower than those that are doing more interventions. I personally see

faster progress w/diets & basic good supplements being used in conjunction with

the Immusist.

My suggestion to you, I would not add in soy (here's a link to some info on the

detrimental hormonal properties w/soy:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2000/04/09/soy-research-updat\

e.aspx

by Sally Fallon & G. Enig, PhD)

Can you use enzymes (like HNI's Trienza)? Enzymes help the body break down the

food into a more usable format w/our children's negative digestive issues. Dosed

on an empty stomach, enzymes are also used to help break down biofilm & for

anti-viral properties so you get a 2 for 1. Since you see no difference & if it

would help you some, I'd say go for more nutrition working together as a family

team just working toward increasing the nutritional value in the food... & again

adding enzymes may help in going off a special diet.

Blessings,

Rita

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Venessa,

Yes, we've used HNI for many years.

The TriEnza is a combination of protein, fat & phenol which covers all our

overall digestive assemilation needs. This has been taken before meals since

early in our biomedical recovery to aid better food digestion.

Of note...I'm loosing track I've been answering so many ?'s off-list &

on...somewhere recently I answered someone who was having extra gas w/raw camels

milk....today when reviewing for our group order I saw that HNI has a new enzyme

for this:

http://www.houston-enzymes.com/

Before I ever saw a Biomedical doc I read DeFlices book " Enzymes for

Autism & Other Neurological Disorders " & knew in my mothers heart this was an

intervention that I needed on board. Since then I've learned substantially more.

Certain enzymes target digestion...some for fats, some for protein & some for

phenols (TriEnza is a combo of all...actually only containing a 1/2 dose for

phenols). Over the years w/the docs we have also used enzymes designed to break

down other invaders (all dosed on an EMPTY stomach away from food to further

target cleaning the blood stream):

- Biofilm (Interface...I'd have to go back & look up that co name)

- Viruses (Virastop by

Enzymedica)http://www.enzymedica.com/products/Virastop#tabsection

- Mucas (MucoStop by Enzymedica)

http://www.enzymedica.com/products/MucoStop

Hope this further helps, Blessings,

Rita

>

> > Below is an off-list exchange from this thread that I have received

permission to pass to the group as it has some good info including a must read

article on some of the negative health issues of soy, especially soy protein:

> >

> > Subject: Immusist questions

> >

> > Hi Rita.

> >

> > Did you do any special diets with Immusist? We have tried a slew of

treatments/diets, and my son is currently GF/SF/CF and almost everything else

free. My husband has kinda had it with the diet (even though it doesn't affect

his life AT ALL!) since after three years of it, we haven't seen any gains we

can attribute to diet. When he has infractions, we also don't see any negatives.

I'm keeping him on it while I do MMS but was thinking if we drop MMS and just do

immusist, maybe we'd let in some gluten or corn or soy now and then. Any input

on this? From the families you've seen, did most do diets?

> >

> > Thanks again so much! I always read your posts as they are positive,

informative, and kind. You're a real asset on the board!

> > S

> > -------------------

> >

> > S,

> > Diets...we have used special diets...but after so many years we do have

infractions w/HNI Trienza enzymes w/no negatives. We are mainly GF/CF, low

sugar, allergy removal/rotation & I try & keep us away from antinutrients. I

look at food for it's benefit to the body. We try & use our Vitamix @ least once

a day to include things like cranberry juice (for it's antibacterial effects),

greens (we used Kale today for it's high nutritional & binding values), coconut

milk for it's good fats, raw honey for its high nutritional value, extra

cinnamon for it's anti-fungal properties, etc.

> > What we ARE feeding the cell is just as important to me in trying to turn

around my families health as what I'm not feeding my child. Many in our WA group

do diets, many have healed to the point that they can add back foods, & some are

still progressing on no special diets/no docs/no supplements but Immusist (I'm

just seeing the children in the last catagory that can only do minimum just

improve slower than those that are doing more interventions. I personally see

faster progress w/diets & basic good supplements being used in conjunction with

the Immusist.

> >

> > My suggestion to you, I would not add in soy (here's a link to some info on

the detrimental hormonal properties w/soy:

> >

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2000/04/09/soy-research-updat\

e.aspx

> > by Sally Fallon & G. Enig, PhD)

> >

> > Can you use enzymes (like HNI's Trienza)? Enzymes help the body break down

the food into a more usable format w/our children's negative digestive issues.

Dosed on an empty stomach, enzymes are also used to help break down biofilm &

for anti-viral properties so you get a 2 for 1. Since you see no difference & if

it would help you some, I'd say go for more nutrition working together as a

family team just working toward increasing the nutritional value in the food... &

again adding enzymes may help in going off a special diet.

> > Blessings,

> > Rita

> >

> >

>

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Magan,

LOVE, LOVE this kind of post/update...Thank You for your post!!

I'm thrilled you've been able to see these practioners & are finding

direction/progressing w/them. I so appreciate bouncing things off others as they

progress, over the years that's how I have learned, so Please Keep Us Posted!

Many Blessings!!

Rita

> >

> > > Below is an off-list exchange from this thread that I have received

permission to pass to the group as it has some good info including a must read

article on some of the negative health issues of soy, especially soy protein:

> > >

> > > Subject: Immusist questions

> > >

> > > Hi Rita.

> > >

> > > Did you do any special diets with Immusist? We have tried a slew of

treatments/diets, and my son is currently GF/SF/CF and almost everything else

free. My husband has kinda had it with the diet (even though it doesn't affect

his life AT ALL!) since after three years of it, we haven't seen any gains we

can attribute to diet. When he has infractions, we also don't see any negatives.

I'm keeping him on it while I do MMS but was thinking if we drop MMS and just do

immusist, maybe we'd let in some gluten or corn or soy now and then. Any input

on this? From the families you've seen, did most do diets?

> > >

> > > Thanks again so much! I always read your posts as they are positive,

informative, and kind. You're a real asset on the board!

> > > S

> > > -------------------

> > >

> > > S,

> > > Diets...we have used special diets...but after so many years we do have

infractions w/HNI Trienza enzymes w/no negatives. We are mainly GF/CF, low

sugar, allergy removal/rotation & I try & keep us away from antinutrients. I

look at food for it's benefit to the body. We try & use our Vitamix @ least once

a day to include things like cranberry juice (for it's antibacterial effects),

greens (we used Kale today for it's high nutritional & binding values), coconut

milk for it's good fats, raw honey for its high nutritional value, extra

cinnamon for it's anti-fungal properties, etc.

> > > What we ARE feeding the cell is just as important to me in trying to turn

around my families health as what I'm not feeding my child. Many in our WA group

do diets, many have healed to the point that they can add back foods, & some are

still progressing on no special diets/no docs/no supplements but Immusist (I'm

just seeing the children in the last catagory that can only do minimum just

improve slower than those that are doing more interventions. I personally see

faster progress w/diets & basic good supplements being used in conjunction with

the Immusist.

> > >

> > > My suggestion to you, I would not add in soy (here's a link to some info

on the detrimental hormonal properties w/soy:

> > >

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2000/04/09/soy-research-updat\

e.aspx

> > > by Sally Fallon & G. Enig, PhD)

> > >

> > > Can you use enzymes (like HNI's Trienza)? Enzymes help the body break down

the food into a more usable format w/our children's negative digestive issues.

Dosed on an empty stomach, enzymes are also used to help break down biofilm &

for anti-viral properties so you get a 2 for 1. Since you see no difference & if

it would help you some, I'd say go for more nutrition working together as a

family team just working toward increasing the nutritional value in the food... &

again adding enzymes may help in going off a special diet.

> > > Blessings,

> > > Rita

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Tanja,

It was Lypazyme which is a new & Featured Product right now on their homepage:

http://www.houston-enzymes.com/

A new kind of enzyme product for fats

Breaks down triglyceride fats into nutritional short-chain fatty acids

Combination of 3 different lipase enzymes

Helps with gas and bloating from fats and oils

Small capsule size

The comment " Helps with gas and bloating from fats and oils " made me think

directly of the gas w/camels milk comment you had made....

Here's more on it:

http://www.houston-enzymes.com/store/product.php?c=1 & p=95

Blessings,

Rita

> >

> > > Below is an off-list exchange from this thread that I have received

permission to pass to the group as it has some good info including a must read

article on some of the negative health issues of soy, especially soy protein:

> > >

> > > Subject: Immusist questions

> > >

> > > Hi Rita.

> > >

> > > Did you do any special diets with Immusist? We have tried a slew of

treatments/diets, and my son is currently GF/SF/CF and almost everything else

free. My husband has kinda had it with the diet (even though it doesn't affect

his life AT ALL!) since after three years of it, we haven't seen any gains we

can attribute to diet. When he has infractions, we also don't see any negatives.

I'm keeping him on it while I do MMS but was thinking if we drop MMS and just do

immusist, maybe we'd let in some gluten or corn or soy now and then. Any input

on this? From the families you've seen, did most do diets?

> > >

> > > Thanks again so much! I always read your posts as they are positive,

informative, and kind. You're a real asset on the board!

> > > S

> > > -------------------

> > >

> > > S,

> > > Diets...we have used special diets...but after so many years we do have

infractions w/HNI Trienza enzymes w/no negatives. We are mainly GF/CF, low

sugar, allergy removal/rotation & I try & keep us away from antinutrients. I

look at food for it's benefit to the body. We try & use our Vitamix @ least once

a day to include things like cranberry juice (for it's antibacterial effects),

greens (we used Kale today for it's high nutritional & binding values), coconut

milk for it's good fats, raw honey for its high nutritional value, extra

cinnamon for it's anti-fungal properties, etc.

> > > What we ARE feeding the cell is just as important to me in trying to turn

around my families health as what I'm not feeding my child. Many in our WA group

do diets, many have healed to the point that they can add back foods, & some are

still progressing on no special diets/no docs/no supplements but Immusist (I'm

just seeing the children in the last catagory that can only do minimum just

improve slower than those that are doing more interventions. I personally see

faster progress w/diets & basic good supplements being used in conjunction with

the Immusist.

> > >

> > > My suggestion to you, I would not add in soy (here's a link to some info

on the detrimental hormonal properties w/soy:

> > >

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2000/04/09/soy-research-updat\

e.aspx

> > > by Sally Fallon & G. Enig, PhD)

> > >

> > > Can you use enzymes (like HNI's Trienza)? Enzymes help the body break down

the food into a more usable format w/our children's negative digestive issues.

Dosed on an empty stomach, enzymes are also used to help break down biofilm &

for anti-viral properties so you get a 2 for 1. Since you see no difference & if

it would help you some, I'd say go for more nutrition working together as a

family team just working toward increasing the nutritional value in the food... &

again adding enzymes may help in going off a special diet.

> > > Blessings,

> > > Rita

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

Didn't mean to type your name wrong...my fingers are all mixed up tonight..I'm

so sorry..but still very much appreciate your post!!!

Blessings!

Rita

> > >

> > > > Below is an off-list exchange from this thread that I have received

permission to pass to the group as it has some good info including a must read

article on some of the negative health issues of soy, especially soy protein:

> > > >

> > > > Subject: Immusist questions

> > > >

> > > > Hi Rita.

> > > >

> > > > Did you do any special diets with Immusist? We have tried a slew of

treatments/diets, and my son is currently GF/SF/CF and almost everything else

free. My husband has kinda had it with the diet (even though it doesn't affect

his life AT ALL!) since after three years of it, we haven't seen any gains we

can attribute to diet. When he has infractions, we also don't see any negatives.

I'm keeping him on it while I do MMS but was thinking if we drop MMS and just do

immusist, maybe we'd let in some gluten or corn or soy now and then. Any input

on this? From the families you've seen, did most do diets?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks again so much! I always read your posts as they are positive,

informative, and kind. You're a real asset on the board!

> > > > S

> > > > -------------------

> > > >

> > > > S,

> > > > Diets...we have used special diets...but after so many years we do have

infractions w/HNI Trienza enzymes w/no negatives. We are mainly GF/CF, low

sugar, allergy removal/rotation & I try & keep us away from antinutrients. I

look at food for it's benefit to the body. We try & use our Vitamix @ least once

a day to include things like cranberry juice (for it's antibacterial effects),

greens (we used Kale today for it's high nutritional & binding values), coconut

milk for it's good fats, raw honey for its high nutritional value, extra

cinnamon for it's anti-fungal properties, etc.

> > > > What we ARE feeding the cell is just as important to me in trying to

turn around my families health as what I'm not feeding my child. Many in our WA

group do diets, many have healed to the point that they can add back foods, &

some are still progressing on no special diets/no docs/no supplements but

Immusist (I'm just seeing the children in the last catagory that can only do

minimum just improve slower than those that are doing more interventions. I

personally see faster progress w/diets & basic good supplements being used in

conjunction with the Immusist.

> > > >

> > > > My suggestion to you, I would not add in soy (here's a link to some info

on the detrimental hormonal properties w/soy:

> > > >

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2000/04/09/soy-research-updat\

e.aspx

> > > > by Sally Fallon & G. Enig, PhD)

> > > >

> > > > Can you use enzymes (like HNI's Trienza)? Enzymes help the body break

down the food into a more usable format w/our children's negative digestive

issues. Dosed on an empty stomach, enzymes are also used to help break down

biofilm & for anti-viral properties so you get a 2 for 1. Since you see no

difference & if it would help you some, I'd say go for more nutrition working

together as a family team just working toward increasing the nutritional value

in the food... & again adding enzymes may help in going off a special diet.

> > > > Blessings,

> > > > Rita

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Cheryl,

Man...I was going to trim that post before I sent it...forgot again!!I'm so

sorry!

With so much going on on & off-list I have a hard time containing my run wild

thoughts in just moving to the next thing I keep forgetting to trim them...my

bad & I'll try & do better ;o)

Blessings,

Rita