Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 oh... I would think this could only be a danger to our sensitive kids. **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 I think it is a big part of what is left in her. > > oh... I would think this could only be a danger to our sensitive kids. > > > > **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest > products. > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007? NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 We did. went through multiple rounds of different antibiotics and sulfa-drugs.The funny thing is that he used to have pretty prominent shiners, and now they are very faint. I'm wondering if the vitamins we have been giving him, plus the sunshine of the summer and our trip to Hawaii last week might be correcting something. I'm trying to dig up an article about sunshine on skin that I read recently which described a bunch of other benefits besides vitamin D production. Does anyone know what specific nutritional insufficiency is responsible for shiners? eventually had to go under general to have his tear ducts probed, and they are now fine. I still wonder what role his exposure to general anesthesia might have played in his current HFA symptoms. He also had plugged ear tubes, one of which cleared up, while his left ear is still plugged. We are now being faced with the choice of putting him under general again to have an ear tube put in, which I don't like the idea of, or trying to wait this out, which I don't like either, given that he is now 3.5 years old. His delayed speed did make a very noticeable improvement about the time that his right ear cleared up and normalized pressure. I'm thinking that we need to go ahead with the ear tube placement, as he is already leaving the age where children easily imprint the different phonemes of their native language. Opinions? Liz wrote: > > Anyone's kid who has shiners use these a lot for blocked tear duct? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 All my kids have the shiners. They are worse during allergy season and better with allergy treatments. Even the baby is starting to get them and she is only 15 mo. My apraxic child did have antibiotic eye drops after birth for a mild eye infection due to meconium. He also had one clogged duct and we were given drops, but I didn't use them. I just shot breastmilk in his eye instead. The drops were too hard and the duct did clear on it's own around 3 months. His shiners are the second worst in the family (second to mine) and his allergist isn't sure why they persist in winter (his allergies are spring - fall and none in winter. We don't have enough humidity here for dust mites or molds and the boys aren't allergic to either.) She's thinking that perhaps there are enough irritants around to be bothering him. He also has a lot of sinus infections in winter. He didn't have as many this past winter, but if he has more this winter his allergist wants to order a CT scan to check for a physical issue with his sinuses. As much as I hate steriodal treatments, the nasal spray he's started on has been a god send. His shiners aren't as dark and he's perkier. The fact that it has responded to allergy treatments makes me think it is indeed allergy related. Miche On Nov 25, 2007 7:04 PM, Kavitsky <jkavitsky@...> wrote: > > We did. went through multiple rounds of different antibiotics > and sulfa-drugs.The funny thing is that he used to have pretty prominent > shiners, and now they are very faint. I'm wondering if the vitamins we > have been giving him, plus the sunshine of the summer and our trip to > Hawaii last week might be correcting something. I'm trying to dig up an > article about sunshine on skin that I read recently which described a > bunch of other benefits besides vitamin D production. > > Does anyone know what specific nutritional insufficiency is responsible > for shiners? > > eventually had to go under general to have his tear ducts > probed, and they are now fine. I still wonder what role his exposure to > general anesthesia might have played in his current HFA symptoms. He > also had plugged ear tubes, one of which cleared up, while his left ear > is still plugged. We are now being faced with the choice of putting him > under general again to have an ear tube put in, which I don't like the > idea of, or trying to wait this out, which I don't like either, given > that he is now 3.5 years old. > > His delayed speed did make a very noticeable improvement about the time > that his right ear cleared up and normalized pressure. I'm thinking that > we need to go ahead with the ear tube placement, as he is already > leaving the age where children easily imprint the different phonemes of > their native language. > > Opinions? > > > Liz wrote: > > > > Anyone's kid who has shiners use these a lot for blocked tear duct? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 We did see a near disappearance in the summer of daughter's shiners. I now wonder if the sun was not a big part of that. I am really trying to get them out as much as possible. Jersey Novembers are brutal. Can you pass on the article if it is online? I was told B6 is the deficiency by two docs, neither of whom recommended supplements though. I wonder if the E does not fix it given its relationship to mercury. Who really knows these things? I am starting to think I need a food chemist rather than a nutritionist...they know what they put into food to balance the junk, perhaps they could help me with the junk I can't move out of my kids bodies. As you may have read, I think nitrous oxide during ear tube surgery harmed my boy as he lost words from an ear surgery that was supposed to help him gain words. There are alternatives though. For one thing, if you thing metal or metal excretion is part of this I'd ask if the tylenol happy juice is a must. Also, there is an alternative sedative said to be better for our kids. I can't recall the name but someone on this list told me about it. Regardless, I would highly recommend a planed chat with the anesthesiologist prior to surgery. They will likely be very receptive I am sure. > > > > Anyone's kid who has shiners use these a lot for blocked tear duct? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Kavitsky wrote: > Does anyone know what specific nutritional insufficiency is responsible > for shiners? > > " Shiners " can result for a number of different reasons: * allergies * food intolerances * sinus irritation/infection * tiredness * leaky gut/intestinal absorption problems * candida * bad gut flora or bad intestinal bacteria * viral infections * detox reaction (see intollerances/allergies/leaky gut) * anemia ____________________________________________________________ Receive Notifications of Incoming Messages Easily monitor multiple email accounts & access them with a click. Visit http://www.inbox.com/notifier and check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Jim, I got this from a friend on another board. An interesting discussion of what each ear does: " On another note, the ears. The hearing translation center is in the left side of the brain - making hearing well in the right ear most important because the sound has a much shorter distance to travel between the ear and the brain hearing center. Our therapist recommended that we speak any instructions to the kids in their right ears. Hearing in the left ear has a much longer neurological path from the ear to the brain -one that encircles the heart even, so the verbal message can has a greater chance of getting " lost " or " warped " enroute. Kind of like the game rumor where the first person tells the original rumor and by the time the last person in the circle tells it, the original story has mutated to something totally unrelated. " I know I am going to get beat up for this but: Is he off dairy? The ENT has since told us that had been off dairy earlier we may have been able to avoid the tubes. Not saying that is the deal with your boy and we may have needed the surgery anyway but given what I now know I'd have liked it if the doc had mentioned this beforehand but my son was not the " throw up " allergic milk kid so in the 30 minutes that he saw him in all our visits total, how could he know? Also, my son only ever had flud...no infections nor adenoid stuff like you hear with a lot of ear tube children. Any metal issues? Last year when I was drinking milk and the fluoridated nursery water to lose weight I had a noticeable decrease in my ability to hear in both ears. I have regained some hearing back. Prior to that I had only had right ear stuff from time to time (It popped at a concert after eating pizza and while pregnant with child #1...I lost hearing for days in that ear...that was atypical GERD, stomach acid in ear canal and pressure from the concert noise). Best wishes! Liz > > > > Anyone's kid who has shiners use these a lot for blocked tear duct? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Not my favorite discussion of the topic and hardly complete (there is more known about allergies and their development than discussed here) but here is some info. on shiners. The idea is the allergy, unaddressed, causes the shiners and the underlying deficiency. My daughter's allergies are addressed. I am pretty sure we got them all, but we have not supplemented with B vitamins until recently and she was not getting enough in diet. She is also low on D and I think the sun and the new D drops (used sparingly to prevent oveload) will help as the sun will help her liver process the D. Without further adue, one doc's view: http://www.drpaul.com/library/ALLERGYSIGNS.html Jim: have you found a good multi? > > > > Anyone's kid who has shiners use these a lot for blocked tear duct? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Thanks for the article. I used the gummy vites but I need B12 so back to the drawing board:) > > > > > > > > Anyone's kid who has shiners use these a lot for blocked tear > > duct? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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