iq testing

[Guest guest]

Well said...use it if needed to “play the game” so to speak; and, the people who “know” don’t put stock in it...some people just need to be educated and get to know the individual—their learning styles, capabilities, and quirks (which are dynamic and can change without notice) :-) beverly

On 5/17/07 8:38 PM, " pbeurrier@... " <pbeurrier@...> wrote:

I know our experience with this is unusual, but the IQ score has not been a factor. The psychologist when Faith started Kdg was sure Faith would fail with full inclusion, just because of that score. When Faith did not fail, she had nothing to say, and retired that year. Yeah! The present psych puts no value on that score and it is always commented at meetings that Faith does a lot with what she's got.

I had her IQ done at 3, hoping for a low enough score to qualify for the state Medwaiver program. I had it done by the school because we couldn't afford private and there were no other state agencies that would do it. So, it is in her record, but I always add that it was done at 3 and therefore unreliable. Last year was a re-eval year and they asked what testing I wanted done, if any. They did the Brigance, but even that is not reliable for reflecting what she can do. The mainstream consultant did the test and commented on it extensively. She said that Faith was able to answer questions beyond where she was required to stop. She was amazed at the way Faith learns things...and doesn't learn things.

I think being well informed about IQ testing is important in dealing with the school. I know there are some people who will want to limit her because of it, but those are probably the same people who would want to limit her because she has DS.

ette

mom to Faith (9)DS

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> From: Carol in IL <ps1272000@... <mailto:ps1272000%40> >

> Date: 2007/05/16 Wed PM 03:55:21 EDT

> Down Syndrome Treatment <mailto:Down Syndrome Treatment%40>

> Subject: Re: IQ testing

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[Guest guest]

Hey Paige,

I found the position statement on the Canadian DS Society. I saved it

and will print it out later. Thanks a lot for the info.

> FYI, Emma's answer of fruit is the superior answer for

that question

> and advanced for any 5 year old. So. . . " way to go Emma! " is right!

> >

> > Paige

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> Thanks Paige. I thought so too.

> I tried to look up the position statement against IQ testing on the

> NDSC website but couldn't find it. Do you have a link you can send?

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have a question or two about IQ testing but forgive any ignorance, please.

When my daughter transitioned from EI to the school system at 3 they gave her some type of test but I am not sure if it was an IQ test, the words "IQ test" were never mentioned. How can I find out if she has had one?

Do they educators and administration use the words "IQ testing" or is it called another name but the school system? I want to make sure I ok or not ok any testing that we feel would or would not benefit her and IQ testing is not one that I plan on giving the A O-K on.

in VA

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[Guest guest]

Hey , I called NDSC to ask them what happened to that section of their webpage. The woman I spoke with remembered what I was talking about and is checking into it. I also sent them an email. I gave all of my copies to the school, thinking I could just pull it up from the computer again, and now I can't! I'll let you know when I know. Paigemalsiny <malb@...> wrote: Hey Paige,I found the position statement on the Canadian DS Society. I saved it and will

print it out later. Thanks a lot for the info. > FYI, Emma's answer of fruit is the superior answer for that question > and advanced for any 5 year old. So. . . "way to go Emma!" is right!> > > > Paige> > Thanks Paige. I thought so too.> I

tried to look up the position statement against IQ testing on the > NDSC website but couldn't find it. Do you have a link you can send?> Thanks,> >

[Guest guest]

All you have to do is request to see your child's school records. :-)ALL of them.... then go and look what it says.You can also ask for the name of the test done and check to see if it generates an IQ score. It's unlikely at 3, but could have happened. Carol in IL AIM doihavtasay1Mom to seven including , 6 with TOF, AVcanal, GERD, LS, Asthma, subglottal stenosis, and DS.My problem is not how I look. It's how you see me. Join our Down Syndrome information group - Down Syndrome Treatment/ Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusic----- Original Message ----From: "GTCand4@..." <GTCand4@...>Down Syndrome Treatment Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 11:55:12 AMSubject: Re:

Re: IQ testing

I have a question or two about IQ testing but forgive any ignorance, please.

When my daughter transitioned from EI to the school system at 3 they gave her some type of test but I am not sure if it was an IQ test, the words "IQ test" were never mentioned. How can I find out if she has had one?

Do they educators and administration use the words "IQ testing" or is it called another name but the school system? I want to make sure I ok or not ok any testing that we feel would or would not benefit her and IQ testing is not one that I plan on giving the A O-K on.

in VA

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Paige... your the best. I appreciate it.

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> Hey ,

> I called NDSC to ask them what happened to that section of their

webpage. The woman I spoke with remembered what I was talking about

and is checking into it. I also sent them an email. I gave all of my

copies to the school, thinking I could just pull it up from the

computer again, and now I can't! I'll let you know when I know.

> Paige

>

>

[Guest guest]

Can anyone suggest to me a good iq test for my child (7) who is

language impaired. He is in a typical 2nd grade class and is doing

well. The speech therapist seems to think he is still struggling too

much with language processing and is suggesting iq evaluation. His

teacher tells me that although its something we need to work on, he is

doing very well. He is well behaved, bright, has lots of friends, etc.

etc. She didn't see the need for testing and pretty much told me that

he is a normal kid who has some issues with language. So I don't think

I'll do testing with the school psychologist but I do think I may have

him evaluated privately. Also, how about testing for auditory

processing? Who does that an audiologist? Any input is so greatly

apprciated. Thanks.

[Guest guest]

My thinking on the IQ test is simple - I never took one in school so why

would my son need to take it. Maybe too simple a thought?! LOL

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[Guest guest]

OK, I'll come out of the closet a little. I haven't a clue what my IQ

is, but it is " adequate " . One of my college roommates had an IQ above

160. At the end of senior year he married the wonderful girl in the

class behind us (and there were no other women in our field) . Her IQ

was at least as high as his, but she had wiped out on a Junior year

Elecricity and Magnatism course, something I understood because it was

so badly taught when I took it that I determined to learn the material

in spite of the professor. That decision became a strength in my

eventual profession.

They both went to the University of Chicago for a graduate program which

would take her in spite of no undergraduate degree). I last saw them a

few years after that with an incredibly bright and active 3 year old.

They are " lost " since that to both my school and myself. I've achieved

in my very technical career where-as they are invisible.

IQ is important and very nice, but it doesn't indicate success in life.

I never had a problem that my late Mom had knowledge of my IQ but never

told me. I actually appreciate that! It saved me a lot in figuring out

who I was.

As to our kids, Jan was frequently tested. She doesn't know her IQ and

never did at any of the measurements. We worked to assure that the

tests along with many other were to indicate where work was needed, not

on where she would be limited by the education system.

Her siblings are fine. One is living his life dream doing artificial

intelligence for computer games and the other leading research is web

based stuff. We've never talked to any of them about IQ. No, they

aren't al the same, but so far as I know, results of testing were never

used against them. I don't think that they were really ever used

against Jan who has ds.

Your experience may be different. Ours was positive.

Rick .. dad to 36 year old Jan

OK .. if I were a " today's child " I'd probably be diagnosed as

dislectic. That is something I worked through (with good teachers in

high school) and which has probably aided me in creativity as an adult

in my profession. I think about things differently. I'm good at " out

of the box " thinking, or at least I believe I am.

R .. who has touched the technologies at your fingertips today .. as has

my daughter who has her own contributions that may be equally valid.