Re: Question about IEPs/ Preschool, etc.

[Guest guest]

I am an attorney but not in this. I think there is one on the board.

My laypersons understanding as it came up with us is that the law

allows you to request it but whether you can show cause depends. If

you can get documentation that your child requires something other

than the services they can provide then you can get what you want.

This is a newer area in the preschool setting as most of these

integrated programs were set up for cost containment and the schools

fight pretty hard now. I do recall reading of a burden of proof

change. Meaning they now, once again, must show they can provide

services. If so, that is helpful but be prepared to do battle. I

don't have the time or patience and am homeschooling but my kid is

light and I would have never made the right showing and he would have

had to then unlearn the crap they did. No thanks.

There are attorneys and moms way more schooled in this and there is a

good folder on this board to help you. I hope someone better at this

jumps in. Best wishes!

> >

> > Hi Janice,

> >

> >

> >

> > You have put it so well. The system has tried to fail our kids.

> But our

> > kids are strugglers.

> >

> >

> >

> > Thank you for guiding me to NACD. I just received the set of

CD's

> from

> > them, and I am looking forward to hearing them. Our kids are

> brilliant;

> > there is so much locked wisdom in there. I yet have to find

that

> key to

> > unlock it. I am hoping NACD will be it. I pray to God that it

> is. Having

> > said that I see some parents on this group are from NJ, and

seem to

> be

> > working with NACD. Can you please share your experience with

the

> PA office?

> > I will really appreciate it.

> >

> >

> >

> > Before I end this e-mail, I just have to add a tad bit to the

> discussion of

> > how some professionals don't understand our kids. One of the

> doctors who

> > our son sees mentioned the other day in a much generalized

fashion

> that with

> > autism comes the disability of not being able to understand any

> physical,

> > mental, and emotional changes. Just a few minutes later after

this

> comment

> > from her, our son just turned around and said Dr. your new

haircut

> looks

> > cool, it looks like you got an tan, and why are you so happy

today

> while you

> > were so sad the last time I was here. THEY STILL DON " T GET IT.

I

> used to

> > cry when professionals made comments like this earlier,

> underestimating our

> > child. But now I just know that they don't know enough. And

while

> they

> > think my child needs work, they need it more.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ambika

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From:

> > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Janice

>

> > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 8:39 PM

> >

> > Subject: Re:[ ] Re: Apraxia and Slow

Processing

> >

> >

> >

> > ,

> >

> > Because we have older children and have experienced

the 'stupidity'

> of the

> > 'system', we have a better understanding of the word 'slow' and

the

> > insidious nature to which many of the professionals out there

use

> it..... It

> > is a one way ticket to special education.....

and 'opportunities'

> class....

> >

> > I say... Run Forest, RUN! Yes, I do jokingly call my boy Forest

> Gump.... but

> > I have to run myself for he gives me a chase & a threat at my

joke.

> (yes, he

> > does get it!)

> >

> > In the educational system, SLOW processing is not used in a

nice

> way....

> > Usually people use the word 'slow' to mean mental retardation

of

> some sort.

> > In actuality, Marks original IQ tests in grade 2, described him

as

> being

> > borderline mentally handicapped with regards to non-verbal

> persuits. I have

> > it in black and white.... Unbelievable!

> >

> > Now, once they state this about your child at the tender age of

8,

> it is

> > assumed to be never-changing and a testament to that childs

> abilities....

> > FOREVER!!! That is your child's life-promise as per the

educational

> system.

> > This is a BAAAAAAD thing for it forever limits your child

within

> the system.

> >

> > This is sooooo wrong!

> >

> > I listened to these people who encouraged me to do 'nothing'

for my

> child

> > and so my child did not improve. As soon as I researched and

found

> help for

> > my child, everything turned around and he got better. His IQ

has

> definately

> > changed and someday (when I have extra $$$), I shall have him

> retested to

> > prove it!

> >

> > So.... Liz and all of you with little ones..... if you wonder

why

> ,

> > myself and others 'react' so reflexively to the word slow as

though

> we have

> > been back-handed across the face.... this is the reason. We

have

> had such

> > aweful experiences with the system and with others (usually

> complete idiots)

> > who assume that our kids are stupid. They only see what is in

front

> of them

> > and perform the 'easy' diagnosis. They do not look beneath the

> surface to

> > the diamond that sparkles and glows beneath the rough

exterior....

> our

> > children are truly.... diamonds in the rough!

> >

> > Janice

> > Mother of Mark, 13

> >

> > [sPAM][ ] Re: Apraxia and Slow

Processing

> >

> > Liz there is much in the archives and in research about self-

> > fulfilling prophecies and the research of Dr. Rosenthal. Please

> > don't assume that it's OK because your child is younger to say

your

> > child is " slow " in three areas! There is a huge problem with

many

> > here assuming that apraxia and processing disorders co exist or

> that

> > children with apraxia have slow receptive/cognitive processing

> skills

> > which is also a sign of mental retardation. And the fact so

many

> > today are accepting this is very sad. Perhaps unlike the

children

> > here from over the years like my son Tanner -the children in

the

> > group today won't be mainstreamed. Is that the belief? Because

> > belief becomes reality and you get to choose now. Your child's

> > future depends in some part on your belief. Isn't it a mother

and

> > father's instinct to raise our child up?

> >

> > And to answer the question about therapy for another diagnosis

> > working. Many here with autistic children found some of the

methods

> > used for apraxia to work as well. The Kaufman Kit can be used

by

> any

> > late talker- even one that isn't apraxic.

> >

> > We tried various therapies for Tanner that are used for deaf

> children

> > including learning sign -that doesn't mean Tanner is deaf. Just

> > because a therapy helps doesn't mean a child has the diagnosis

that

> > therapy was originally designed for.

> >

> > Please do some homework on the awesome Dr. Rosenthal and

the

> > work he has done. You will also find much about him in the

> > archives. Sadly if you believe your child to be slow..in three

> areas

> > no less -you 'are' probably going to find out you are right.

When

> > nobody else believed in Tanner Glenn and I did and guess who

proved

> > everyone but us wrong -not us -but Tanner did! I loved sharing

the

> whole

> > story with Dr. Rosenthal because he is brilliant and he is the

one

> > that inspired me. And I saw it work. They could have been right

and

> > Tanner would have been in special ed today.

> > http://www.cherab.

> > <http://www.cherab.org/information/familiesrelate/letter.html>

> > org/information/familiesrelate/letter.html

> >

> > I know some of you don't understand this -but again don't

assume

> the

> > worst and don't underestimate those that can't verbally prove

you

> > wrong...yet. Sometimes it's best to be wrong and if you believe

> > apraxia and slow processing of receptive or cognitive skills go

> hand

> > in hand -then you 'are' wrong. Apraxia is not a cognitive

disorder.

> >

> > And even if in your child's case you were right and for example

> one's

> > child has co existing mental retardation with the apraxia -you

are

> > still best to believe in your child and give the benefit of the

> > doubt. Look at Robin's daughter -it's a hard pill to

> swallow

> > to be wrong -or assume others are right with bogus diagnosis

about

> > your child - years down the road.

> > http://www.cherab. <http://www.cherab.org/news/.html>

> > org/news/.html

> >

> > And while for ethical reasons Dr. Rosenthal's research was done

in

> > the positive -in speaking with him he agrees that it works both

> > ways. If that's the case why think anything but the positive?

> >

> > http://www.facultyd

> > <http://www.facultydirectory.ucr.edu/cgi-

> bin/pub/public_individual.pl?facult

> > y=534> irectory.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/pub/public_individual.pl?

faculty=534

> > http://www.pineforg

> > <http://www.pineforge.com/newman4study/resources/rosenthal1.htm>

> > e.com/newman4study/resources/rosenthal1.htm

> > http://www.psichi.

> <http://www.psichi.org/pubs/articles/article_121.asp>

> > org/pubs/articles/article_121.asp

> > http://www.accel- <http://www.accel-

> team.com/pygmalion/prophecy_01.html>

> > team.com/pygmalion/prophecy_01.html

> > http://www.musicedm

> > <http://www.musicedmagic.com/class-management/classroom-vision-

and-

> the-self-

> > fulfilling-prophecy.html>

> > agic.com/class-management/classroom-vision-and-the-self-

fulfilling-

> prophecy.

> > html

> > http://www.motivati

> > <http://www.motivation-tools.com/workplace/social_prejudice.htm>

> > on-tools.com/workplace/social_prejudice.htm

> >

> > tons more -just google it or search the archives here

> >

> > =====

> >

[Guest guest]

I'm curious why do you think it is not the least restrictive environment? Are

you thinking your son needs more or less services then being offered at the

school?

If you are asking for more services it might be difficult to get, especially

since you are opting to send him only 2 days currently.

Some districts are great to work with and others are brutal......best of luck.

<sbutler@...> wrote:

Hi everyone - I have a question about the IEP process for

preschoolers. has been recieving services through early on for 1 year now,

and now that he is turning 3, we move to the public school. He will be going to

the Early Childhood Special Education Preschool class. They ofter the class 5

days a week, but he will only be going for 2 because he goes to a private

Preschool 2 days a week and really, i just feel that 5 days a week at this age

is a bit much and i've been told that Fridays are a " Wash " anyway, meaning he

wouldn't recieve any speech therapy on that day even if he was there.

My question is there - can I legally request that he recieve services in any

other setting? I do not feel that the class he is going to is the least

restrictive environment, but they aren't offering me any options. What can I do?

He does have severe verbal apraxia, but it's in the pure form, there are no

motor delays, sensory issues, etc. He did test low on the cognitive test, but

they told me it was because it was standardized and since he couldn't verbally

answer the questions they were automatically marked missed, even though there

are no obvious cognitive delays when you speak with him. Should i request a

different test? I think that he qualified for this class because he scored low

in two area's, which meets their requirments.

thanks for any advice/help.

u

[sPAM][ ] Re: Apraxia and Slow Processing

>

> Liz there is much in the archives and in research about self-

> fulfilling prophecies and the research of Dr. Rosenthal. Please

> don't assume that it's OK because your child is younger to say your

> child is " slow " in three areas! There is a huge problem with many

> here assuming that apraxia and processing disorders co exist or

that

> children with apraxia have slow receptive/cognitive processing

skills

> which is also a sign of mental retardation. And the fact so many

> today are accepting this is very sad. Perhaps unlike the children

> here from over the years like my son Tanner -the children in the

> group today won't be mainstreamed. Is that the belief? Because

> belief becomes reality and you get to choose now. Your child's

> future depends in some part on your belief. Isn't it a mother and

> father's instinct to raise our child up?

>

> And to answer the question about therapy for another diagnosis

> working. Many here with autistic children found some of the methods

> used for apraxia to work as well. The Kaufman Kit can be used by

any

> late talker- even one that isn't apraxic.

>

> We tried various therapies for Tanner that are used for deaf

children

> including learning sign -that doesn't mean Tanner is deaf. Just

> because a therapy helps doesn't mean a child has the diagnosis that

> therapy was originally designed for.

>

> Please do some homework on the awesome Dr. Rosenthal and the

> work he has done. You will also find much about him in the

> archives. Sadly if you believe your child to be slow..in three

areas

> no less -you 'are' probably going to find out you are right. When

> nobody else believed in Tanner Glenn and I did and guess who proved

> everyone but us wrong -not us -but Tanner did! I loved sharing the

whole

> story with Dr. Rosenthal because he is brilliant and he is the one

> that inspired me. And I saw it work. They could have been right and

> Tanner would have been in special ed today.

> http://www.cherab.

> <http://www.cherab.org/information/familiesrelate/letter.html>

> org/information/familiesrelate/letter.html

>

> I know some of you don't understand this -but again don't assume

the

> worst and don't underestimate those that can't verbally prove you

> wrong...yet. Sometimes it's best to be wrong and if you believe

> apraxia and slow processing of receptive or cognitive skills go

hand

> in hand -then you 'are' wrong. Apraxia is not a cognitive disorder.

>

> And even if in your child's case you were right and for example

one's

> child has co existing mental retardation with the apraxia -you are

> still best to believe in your child and give the benefit of the

> doubt. Look at Robin's daughter -it's a hard pill to

swallow

> to be wrong -or assume others are right with bogus diagnosis about

> your child - years down the road.

> http://www.cherab. <http://www.cherab.org/news/.html>

> org/news/.html

>

> And while for ethical reasons Dr. Rosenthal's research was done in

> the positive -in speaking with him he agrees that it works both

> ways. If that's the case why think anything but the positive?

>

> http://www.facultyd

> <http://www.facultydirectory.ucr.edu/cgi-

bin/pub/public_individual.pl?facult

> y=534> irectory.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/pub/public_individual.pl?faculty=534

> http://www.pineforg

> <http://www.pineforge.com/newman4study/resources/rosenthal1.htm>

> e.com/newman4study/resources/rosenthal1.htm

> http://www.psichi.

<http://www.psichi.org/pubs/articles/article_121.asp>

> org/pubs/articles/article_121.asp

> http://www.accel- <http://www.accel-

team.com/pygmalion/prophecy_01.html>

> team.com/pygmalion/prophecy_01.html

> http://www.musicedm

> <http://www.musicedmagic.com/class-management/classroom-vision-and-

the-self-

> fulfilling-prophecy.html>

> agic.com/class-management/classroom-vision-and-the-self-fulfilling-

prophecy.

> html

> http://www.motivati

> <http://www.motivation-tools.com/workplace/social_prejudice.htm>

> on-tools.com/workplace/social_prejudice.htm

>

> tons more -just google it or search the archives here

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

Hi :

We are going through the same thing right now, and I am working with

an advocate to see how far I want to push the issue with the school

district. We have chosen not to send my son Adam to the SPED

preschool program and to keep him at his private preschool 2 full

days per week. He will be getting speech therapy 2 hours per week

paid for by the district, but that was a fight. My understanding,

after consulting with the advocate and reading slaw and

numerous other sites is that a program of typical peers is the LRE.

It becomes more complicated with the preschool level because most

school districts do not have public preschool classes with just

typical children. I observed at the public SPED preschool, and it

was not an appropriate setting for Adam. Adam did very well on all

aspects of testing, except the expressive language piece.

Basically, my understanding is that first the team must develop the

IEP. Then, the team must decide on placement for implementing the

IEP. If the IEP can be implemented in a regular classroom, even with

supportive services, then I believe that is the LRE. I brought up

the idea of placement at the private preschool during the IEP meeting

and it was immediately shot down. All the SPED director kept saying

was that their program was appropriate for Adam. Since the meeting,

I have learned more about LRE, and am planning to write a letter to

the SPED department asking for another meeting to discuss placement.

I am in agreement with the IEP goals, but now that I understand LRE,

and have clear in my mind all the reasons Adam should be placed in a

regular preschool, I want to meet with them again to discuss this

issue.

The team needs to come up with the IEP goals, then discuss where your

child can successfully work on these goals...is it a regular

classroom, perhaps with drop-in speech therapy at the public school?

If so, how will your child's speech therapy goals be carried over

into the private preschool classroom. The private preschool will be

responsible for carrying out the goals...are they willing and able to

do that? I believe my son needs to be with typical peers whom he can

learn from and model his language after. He has the ability to be

educated with typical peers, and is not a distraction to the

classroom in anyway. We have been implementing his speech therapy

goals into the preschool classroom...it has taken some work to

educate the teachers at the private preschool about apraxia, but they

really care and truly appreciate my input and want to help Adam

succeed. Placement/LRE is important to discuss, but prepare for

resistance, mainly I think because at the preschool level the public

school has nothing to offer in the district except an integrated SPED

classroom.

Find an advocate in your area to work with. The advocate I have

spoken with told me I may need to contact a lawyer at some point to

discuss the legalities further, since she is not a lawyer.

These are helpful sites:

http://www.nessasiegel.com/reimbursement_private.htm

http://www.bridges4kids.org/IEP/Placement.html

http://www.wrightslaw.com/info/lre.osers.memo.idea.htm

slaw From Emotions to Advocacy is a book I recommend to begin

to understand federal regulation and your rights regarding Special

Education and IDEA.

Sincerely,

Holly, mother to Adam, 3 years old, moderate apraxia

(we live in NH)

>

> Hi everyone - I have a question about the IEP process for

preschoolers. has been recieving services through early on for

1 year now, and now that he is turning 3, we move to the public

school. He will be going to the Early Childhood Special Education

Preschool class. They ofter the class 5 days a week, but he will

only be going for 2 because he goes to a private Preschool 2 days a

week and really, i just feel that 5 days a week at this age is a bit

much and i've been told that Fridays are a " Wash " anyway, meaning he

wouldn't recieve any speech therapy on that day even if he was there.

>

> My question is there - can I legally request that he recieve

services in any other setting? I do not feel that the class he is

going to is the least restrictive environment, but they aren't

offering me any options. What can I do? He does have severe verbal

apraxia, but it's in the pure form, there are no motor delays,

sensory issues, etc. He did test low on the cognitive test, but they

told me it was because it was standardized and since he couldn't

verbally answer the questions they were automatically marked missed,

even though there are no obvious cognitive delays when you speak with

him. Should i request a different test? I think that he qualified

for this class because he scored low in two area's, which meets their

requirments.

>

>

> thanks for any advice/help.

>

> u

>

>

[Guest guest]

So helpful. Confirms out decision to go out of district. In the

integrated preschool even the so called typical kids have speech

issues so I was hard-pressed to believe my kid was going to pick up

good speech, the only real issue left for him, there. No thanks.

> >

> > Hi everyone - I have a question about the IEP process for

> preschoolers. has been recieving services through early on

for

> 1 year now, and now that he is turning 3, we move to the public

> school. He will be going to the Early Childhood Special Education

> Preschool class. They ofter the class 5 days a week, but he will

> only be going for 2 because he goes to a private Preschool 2 days a

> week and really, i just feel that 5 days a week at this age is a

bit

> much and i've been told that Fridays are a " Wash " anyway, meaning

he

> wouldn't recieve any speech therapy on that day even if he was

there.

> >

> > My question is there - can I legally request that he recieve

> services in any other setting? I do not feel that the class he is

> going to is the least restrictive environment, but they aren't

> offering me any options. What can I do? He does have severe verbal

> apraxia, but it's in the pure form, there are no motor delays,

> sensory issues, etc. He did test low on the cognitive test, but

they

> told me it was because it was standardized and since he couldn't

> verbally answer the questions they were automatically marked

missed,

> even though there are no obvious cognitive delays when you speak

with

> him. Should i request a different test? I think that he qualified

> for this class because he scored low in two area's, which meets

their

> requirments.

> >

> >

> > thanks for any advice/help.

> >

> > u

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

There are a very few legal decisions finding that a private preschool with

mainstream peers is the appropriate placement (with supports). It is a

burgeoning area and I would encourage anyone who sees this as the least

restrictive, appropriate environment for their child to seek payment for the

placement and the supports through their IEP, and if denied, and they have the

ability, to seek special education counsel to pursue this further. Good referral

websites for attorneys and advocates are at COPAA.org and wrightslaw.org (they

provide state specific referrals).

Asher, Esq.

Asher, Gaughran LLP

223 Katonah Avenue

Katonah, New York 10536

asher@...

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[Guest guest]

, You can always request that the service be given somewhere

other than the school. The school (I don't think) has to provide it in

other locations, however some schools may (probably depends on the

child, situation, and district). In the district where I work, a

parent asked for PT services in her home (her child does not attend our

school sped prek prog), the director of sped said ok to her request.

That totally surprised me. We've had kids before who were " walk-in "

speech kids (they only rec'd ST from our district and their parents

brought them to the SLP), we may give them special ed instruction in

their home or at their daycare/private prek, but never other related

services, so this was huge to me. It never hurts to ask! By the way,

it's nice to meet another parent who feels 5 days a week for a 3 yr old

is too much! Same may not like me for saying it, but it's how I feel.

I said the same thing about my son who just turned 3. He'll be

attending a prvate prek 2 days a week for 2 1/2 hrs and get his ST

privately (paid for by the school district).

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

My son gets his services at a typical preschool including an aide.

We got a big sales pitch about how great the sped preschool would be

for him, but it was awful. When school is not in session we had all

his services provided at home. They started to argue about providing

services in our home, but our advocate shot them down pretty

quickly. It wasn't a difficult argument since he gets ST, PT, OT and

VT and he would have spent so much time on the road going from one

facility to another. I didn't fight for them to pay for 's

preschool, but I know they pay for at least partially for some kids

based on the need for developing social skills. Everything is

negotiable, just depends how hard you want to fight:-)

>

> There are a very few legal decisions finding that a private

preschool with mainstream peers is the appropriate placement (with

supports). It is a burgeoning area and I would encourage anyone who

sees this as the least restrictive, appropriate environment for their

child to seek payment for the placement and the supports through

their IEP, and if denied, and they have the ability, to seek special

education counsel to pursue this further. Good referral websites for

attorneys and advocates are at COPAA.org and wrightslaw.org (they

provide state specific referrals).

>

> Asher, Esq.

> Asher, Gaughran LLP

> 223 Katonah Avenue

> Katonah, New York 10536

> asher@...

>

> T: (914) 232-1150

> F: (914) 232-1144

>

> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail

> The information contained in this email message and any attachments

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>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In NY you would also have the option of having your child home for

therapies and " preschool " - they don't have to go to a preschool

building. My daughter still gets all her services at home and she's

over 3. I am not comfortable with sending a diapered, non-verbal

child to any school setting. She is always with a parent.

Also, don't know what the deal is there but here " low in two areas " or

more just means you qualify for services, either home or in school.

Darlene

>

> Hi everyone - I have a question about the IEP process for

preschoolers. has been recieving services through early on for

1 year now, and now that he is turning 3, we move to the public

school. He will be going to the Early Childhood Special Education

Preschool class. They ofter the class 5 days a week, but he will only

be going for 2 because he goes to a private Preschool 2 days a week

and really, i just feel that 5 days a week at this age is a bit much

and i've been told that Fridays are a " Wash " anyway, meaning he

wouldn't recieve any speech therapy on that day even if he was there.

>

> My question is there - can I legally request that he recieve

services in any other setting? I do not feel that the class he is

going to is the least restrictive environment, but they aren't

offering me any options. What can I do? He does have severe verbal

apraxia, but it's in the pure form, there are no motor delays, sensory

issues, etc. He did test low on the cognitive test, but they told me

it was because it was standardized and since he couldn't verbally

answer the questions they were automatically marked missed, even

though there are no obvious cognitive delays when you speak with him.

Should i request a different test? I think that he qualified for

this class because he scored low in two area's, which meets their

requirments.

>

>

> thanks for any advice/help.

>

> u

>

[Guest guest]

Thankls to Dr. Agin

> >

> > Hi everyone - I have a question about the IEP process for

> preschoolers. has been recieving services through early on

for

> 1 year now, and now that he is turning 3, we move to the public

> school. He will be going to the Early Childhood Special Education

> Preschool class. They ofter the class 5 days a week, but he will

only

> be going for 2 because he goes to a private Preschool 2 days a week

> and really, i just feel that 5 days a week at this age is a bit much

> and i've been told that Fridays are a " Wash " anyway, meaning he

> wouldn't recieve any speech therapy on that day even if he was

there.

> >

> > My question is there - can I legally request that he recieve

> services in any other setting? I do not feel that the class he is

> going to is the least restrictive environment, but they aren't

> offering me any options. What can I do? He does have severe verbal

> apraxia, but it's in the pure form, there are no motor delays,

sensory

> issues, etc. He did test low on the cognitive test, but they told

me

> it was because it was standardized and since he couldn't verbally

> answer the questions they were automatically marked missed, even

> though there are no obvious cognitive delays when you speak with

him.

> Should i request a different test? I think that he qualified for

> this class because he scored low in two area's, which meets their

> requirments.

> >

> >

> > thanks for any advice/help.

> >

> > u

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The following is about the grouplist SPEDlaw which is still

at until the 13th of this month. In the meantime you can still

visit the group and search the archives for free. Not sure if the

entire site will be down after the 13th.

SPEDlaw/

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WEDNESDAY FEB 13,2008 . Please visit the ONLY Message and

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From that site a recent messaage about being home and getting

services in the state just talked about -NY:

Jan 24th 2008

" New York tells districts to stop services for home-schooled children

Home-schooled children in New York are no longer eligible for special

education services, according to statewide special ed coordinator

DeLorenzo. " The IDEA requires that home-schooled students receive

special

education services to the same extent that other parentally placed

private

school students receive services only if the home schools are

recognized

under state law as private elementary or secondary schools, "

DeLorenzo said

in a memo dated January 2008. Since New York does not recognize home

schools

as private elementary or secondary schools, he continued, " it was

determined

that the provision of IEP services by a public school district to

students

with disabilities who are home schooled ... is not authorized under

IDEA or

New York state law. " New York officials were within their rights to

remove

special ed services for home-schooled children, OSEP Acting Director

Patty

Guard said in a statement. She emphasized, however, the state was not

obliged to take this step under federal law or regulation.

Develop task force to address service delivery, highlight resources

A steep rise in autism cases during the past few years prompted

Langlieb Greer to take action. The Miami-Dade County (Fla.) Public

Schools

board member saw her district struggling to keep up with the demand

for

services. At the same time, she saw parents struggling to understand

their

children's diagnoses and work with -- rather than against --

educators and

administrators. To change the tenor of the time, Greer suggested the

district set up a multifaceted task force to determine how best to

serve

children with autism and support their families. You might consider

joining

with other members of your community to develop a similar autism task

force

to strengthen your early childhood autism services and network of

resources. "

SPEDlaw/message/34795

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