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In a message dated 12/12/2006 14:35:08 GMT Standard Time, dava93@... writes:

we are doing the enzymes at the moment (houston). We have been putting these in Dans food for school which is usually a hot meal kept in a flask for probably about 4 hours after preparation before he eats it. Will the enzymes still work after being in the food for 4 hours before he eats it?

>>>Enzymes are smart they do what they do - if they are too hot they will 'die' or be rendered ineffective, if its warm and somewhat liquid - they will be digesting away before he eats it.

Before the school would give the enzymes we put them in chilled juice and had them give him that to drink with the meal.

Would the school accept a letter from or your Doc to give them or mix them in the food just before it gets eaten?

Mandi x

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In a message dated 12/12/2006 15:48:29 GMT Standard Time, n.trotman@... writes:

That's interesting what you say. I give Luke his enzyme in his bottle of milk which is warm - and usually he has his bottle just before food though sometime depending on when he can eat it can be up to 30 minutes to an hour later. Does that mean the enzymes probably will not work?

>>>Warm is fine, essentially food cool enough for a child to eat will be fine, hot hot is not good. 30 mins between the giving and the food is fine also :) No worries!

Mandi x

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I think

they work for 2 hours.

Sara.

enzymes for school

Hi everyone,

we are doing the enzymes at the moment (houston). We have

been putting these in Dans food for school which is usually a hot meal

kept in a flask for probably about 4 hours after preparation before he

eats it. Will the enzymes still work after being in the food for 4

hours before he eats it?

dave

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Mandi

That's interesting what you say. I give Luke his enzyme in his bottle of milk

which is warm - and usually he has his bottle just before food though sometime

depending on when he can eat it can be up to 30 minutes to an hour later.

Does that mean the enzymes probably will not work?

>

> From: Mum231ASD@...

> Date: 2006/12/12 Tue PM 02:44:08 GMT

> Autism Treatment

> Subject: Re: enzymes for school

>

>

> In a message dated 12/12/2006 14:35:08 GMT Standard Time, dava93@...

> writes:

>

> we are doing the enzymes at the moment (houston). We have

> been putting these in Dans food for school which is usually a hot meal

> kept in a flask for probably about 4 hours after preparation before he

> eats it. Will the enzymes still work after being in the food for 4

> hours before he eats it?

>

>

>

> >>>Enzymes are smart they do what they do - if they are too hot they will

> 'die' or be rendered ineffective, if its warm and somewhat liquid - they will

> be digesting away before he eats it.

>

> Before the school would give the enzymes we put them in chilled juice and

> had them give him that to drink with the meal.

>

> Would the school accept a letter from or your Doc to give them or mix

> them in the food just before it gets eaten?

>

> Mandi x

>

>

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Mandi

That's interesting what you say. I give Luke his enzyme in his bottle of milk

which is warm - and usually he has his bottle just before food though sometime

depending on when he can eat it can be up to 30 minutes to an hour later.

Does that mean the enzymes probably will not work?

>

> From: Mum231ASD@...

> Date: 2006/12/12 Tue PM 02:44:08 GMT

> Autism Treatment

> Subject: Re: enzymes for school

>

>

> In a message dated 12/12/2006 14:35:08 GMT Standard Time, dava93@...

> writes:

>

> we are doing the enzymes at the moment (houston). We have

> been putting these in Dans food for school which is usually a hot meal

> kept in a flask for probably about 4 hours after preparation before he

> eats it. Will the enzymes still work after being in the food for 4

> hours before he eats it?

>

>

>

> >>>Enzymes are smart they do what they do - if they are too hot they will

> 'die' or be rendered ineffective, if its warm and somewhat liquid - they will

> be digesting away before he eats it.

>

> Before the school would give the enzymes we put them in chilled juice and

> had them give him that to drink with the meal.

>

> Would the school accept a letter from or your Doc to give them or mix

> them in the food just before it gets eaten?

>

> Mandi x

>

>

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Mandi

That's interesting what you say. I give Luke his enzyme in his bottle of milk

which is warm - and usually he has his bottle just before food though sometime

depending on when he can eat it can be up to 30 minutes to an hour later.

Does that mean the enzymes probably will not work?

>

> From: Mum231ASD@...

> Date: 2006/12/12 Tue PM 02:44:08 GMT

> Autism Treatment

> Subject: Re: enzymes for school

>

>

> In a message dated 12/12/2006 14:35:08 GMT Standard Time, dava93@...

> writes:

>

> we are doing the enzymes at the moment (houston). We have

> been putting these in Dans food for school which is usually a hot meal

> kept in a flask for probably about 4 hours after preparation before he

> eats it. Will the enzymes still work after being in the food for 4

> hours before he eats it?

>

>

>

> >>>Enzymes are smart they do what they do - if they are too hot they will

> 'die' or be rendered ineffective, if its warm and somewhat liquid - they will

> be digesting away before he eats it.

>

> Before the school would give the enzymes we put them in chilled juice and

> had them give him that to drink with the meal.

>

> Would the school accept a letter from or your Doc to give them or mix

> them in the food just before it gets eaten?

>

> Mandi x

>

>

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Could you give him a chewable enzyme he could eat discreetly? You could even

put it in his sandwich or something - just warn him it's there :).

If we need a swallowable enzyme we use the papaya & pineapple enzymes. It's

probably not a perfect solution but I figure it's better than nothing.

Kim

Janice <jscott@...> wrote:

I want to send Mark's enzymes with him to school for lunches but

realize that we may have a problem with this. I was thinking of opening up the

capsules and putting the enzymes into his drink. Will they keep their integrity

if put into a drink or food in the AM? They need to keep their integrity for

about 3.5 hours to make it to his lunch hour.

Does anyone know if this is okay? OR what do all of you do? I don't want to go

through the school as I don't want Mark to get singled out and have to go to the

school nurse for enzymes. He is old enough now to even eat them on his own but I

also don't want him getting into trouble should others see him.

Solutions?

Janice

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Janice wrote:

> I want to send Mark's enzymes with him to school for lunches but realize that

we may have a problem with this. I was thinking of opening up the capsules and

putting the enzymes into his drink. Will they keep their integrity if put into

a drink or food in the AM? They need to keep their integrity or about 3.5 hours

to make it to his lunch hour.

Here's the response from Dr. Houston at www.houstonni.com

How can I give the enzymes with my child's school lunch?

Often you can work with the school to arrange supplementation. If not,

you may try mixing the enzymes into a cold drink in a thermos and adding

ice cubes to keep it cold. The cooler (even frozen) you keep an enzyme,

the longer it lasts. This is important because enzymes become activated,

and then start losing their activity once put into a liquid solution.

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From experience - do not sprinkle them onto his food as they will

start breaking down the food and he will have mushy food by lunch.

I discovered this by putting some leftover scrambled eggs in the

fridge. When I pulled them out the next morning - they were mushy,

like they were disolving. Gross!

Also, enzymes tend to clump in liquid - and they taste nasty in

plain water. You would have to send some type of juice and make him

promise to really shake it up before drinking. What about a

chewable enzyme that could be put in a small baggie in his lunch and

he just chew it up before eating?

Stephanee

> > I want to send Mark's enzymes with him to school for lunches but

realize that we may have a problem with this. I was thinking of

opening up the capsules and putting the enzymes into his drink.

Will they keep their integrity if put into a drink or food in the

AM? They need to keep their integrity or about 3.5 hours to make it

to his lunch hour.

> Here's the response from Dr. Houston at www.houstonni.com

>

> How can I give the enzymes with my child's school lunch?

>

> Often you can work with the school to arrange supplementation. If

not,

> you may try mixing the enzymes into a cold drink in a thermos and

adding

> ice cubes to keep it cold. The cooler (even frozen) you keep an

enzyme,

> the longer it lasts. This is important because enzymes become

activated,

> and then start losing their activity once put into a liquid

solution.

>

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We have go to the school nurse, and it's no big deal at this

age. If you go to www.enzymestuff.com, there are lots of ideas for

hiding enzymes -- chocolate wafers and drinks come to mind. Read the

instructions for the details on how long the enzymes can survive in

drinks, etc.

Just be very careful not to get caught -- there was a major ruckus at

my niece's school when my sister tried to bypass the nurse and pack

the enzymes in her lunch. It is a bit ridiculous considering that

most of the enzymes are not toxic even if you eat a whole bottle by

accident. The schools do not understand that. They tend to be very

hypocritical, too -- they treat them like a medication if you pack

them in the lunch, but then treat them like an optional dietary

supplement if you try to get them to administer them as medication.

We've never had any trouble, though. NJ is used to kids with meds.

in NJ

>

> I want to send Mark's enzymes with him to school for lunches but

realize that we may have a problem with this. I was thinking of

opening up the capsules and putting the enzymes into his drink. Will

they keep their integrity if put into a drink or food in the AM?

They need to keep their integrity for about 3.5 hours to make it to

his lunch hour.

>

> Does anyone know if this is okay? OR what do all of you do? I

don't want to go through the school as I don't want Mark to get

singled out and have to go to the school nurse for enzymes. He is

old enough now to even eat them on his own but I also don't want him

getting into trouble should others see him.

>

> Solutions?

>

> Janice

>

>

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I was thinking about the chewables too! I have them and have saved them

precisely for this purpose. Last night I froze some lemonade with the enzymes

mixed in. Should thaw by lunch but my guess is that we're going to have to go

the chewable route and deal with the school if it becomes an issue.

Janice

[sPAM] [ ] Re: Enzymes for school

From experience - do not sprinkle them onto his food as they will

start breaking down the food and he will have mushy food by lunch.

I discovered this by putting some leftover scrambled eggs in the

fridge. When I pulled them out the next morning - they were mushy,

like they were disolving. Gross!

Also, enzymes tend to clump in liquid - and they taste nasty in

plain water. You would have to send some type of juice and make him

promise to really shake it up before drinking. What about a

chewable enzyme that could be put in a small baggie in his lunch and

he just chew it up before eating?

Stephanee

> > I want to send Mark's enzymes with him to school for lunches but

realize that we may have a problem with this. I was thinking of

opening up the capsules and putting the enzymes into his drink.

Will they keep their integrity if put into a drink or food in the

AM? They need to keep their integrity or about 3.5 hours to make it

to his lunch hour.

> Here's the response from Dr. Houston at www.houstonni.com

>

> How can I give the enzymes with my child's school lunch?

>

> Often you can work with the school to arrange supplementation. If

not,

> you may try mixing the enzymes into a cold drink in a thermos and

adding

> ice cubes to keep it cold. The cooler (even frozen) you keep an

enzyme,

> the longer it lasts. This is important because enzymes become

activated,

> and then start losing their activity once put into a liquid

solution.

>

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Janice,

This is from www.enzymestuff.com:

-If you pre-mix the enzymes in liquid, they should remain active for

about four hours, if kept cool. Adding ice is good. Enzymes

are `activated' when they become wet. This is also why enzymes need

to be stored in a cabinet and not a refrigerator (moisture may

collect with the opening and closing of the door).

So, if you were going out, you could mix up a batch ahead of time,

keep it in the refrigerator or freezer until you leave, and then take

out with you. Putting this in a drink bottle to take for school

lunch, a restaurant, or shopping trip works well. ... Oils do not

have this effect of activating enzymes, so mixing enzymes with peanut

butter, or the frosting or chocolate chip ideas, work fine.

in NJ

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Thanks ,

very good advice...

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Janice,

This is from www.enzymestuff.com:

-If you pre-mix the enzymes in liquid, they should remain active for

about four hours, if kept cool. Adding ice is good. Enzymes

are `activated' when they become wet. This is also why enzymes need

to be stored in a cabinet and not a refrigerator (moisture may

collect with the opening and closing of the door).

So, if you were going out, you could mix up a batch ahead of time,

keep it in the refrigerator or freezer until you leave, and then take

out with you. Putting this in a drink bottle to take for school

lunch, a restaurant, or shopping trip works well. ... Oils do not

have this effect of activating enzymes, so mixing enzymes with peanut

butter, or the frosting or chocolate chip ideas, work fine.

in NJ

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