Another strange thing

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I have always had a plaque problem my entire life. This despite

excellent oral hygeine. I now believe it ios low level fluorosis. I have

the Soniccare brush, known for attacking plaque. It does as my bathrrom

mirror is proof. I have struggled with cleaning that plaque off the

mirror for years (I know this is gross) yet windex etc. did not help.

What worked were two things:

Lemon Simple Green Spray

Orange Earth Friendly Cleaner

I suppose I am chelating the mirror?

I am now considering the earth friendly citrus laundry detergent. Just

have to investigate the other ingredients.

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LMBO!!!!

Chelating the mirror..... no doubt!

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LMBO?

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Laughing My Butt Off!

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I am so not with it!

confi_8944 wrote:

> Laughing My Butt Off!

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Hi Vicky,

I think in adult services that would probably be regarded as abuse. It certainly

would not go down at all well where ds is - and they're not perfect. There is a

lot of emphasis on respect and on helping and listening and being aware of

triggers for challenging behaviour - sounds as if that assistant was trying to

provoke a fight.

Patience

>

> Taking into school today we arrived the same time as another youngster

who is probably about 17, think he may be quite new to the school. Anyhow Iv'e

seen this lad before in quite a distressed state, today he was distressed again,

he had just got off the bus and an assistant was trying to control the

situation. She kept trying to get him to " Ask nicely " and was kind of

restraining him, he was trying to free himself but quite half heartedly, she

didn't seem in any danger of being pushed away but the whole spectacle was

really upsetting, anyway when I came out of the school after dropping off

they were still there, this time he was very teary but managed to splurt out

" Help " and again she said " Ask nicely " . I don't know how it all ended as I had

to leave and didn't want to be gawping but I keep asking myself isn't there a

better way of dealing with our very severe kids who just cannot follow the usual

rules. Our kids are so incredibly vulnerable, totally dependent on the kindness

and intergrity of others it's mind boggling.

> Vicky

>

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That has brought tears to my eyes! She clearly hasn't a clue how to do her job, how confusing and unfair on that boy.AmySent from my iPadOn 23 Mar 2012, at 07:27, Colleen Rawstorne <colleen.rawstorne@...> wrote:

And for that matter how does anyone 'ask nicely' for 'help', help is help! It is used in desperation. I get cross when I hear about things like this, I hope they manage to sort it out. Colleen

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On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 3:04 PM PDT onthesosh wrote:

>Hi Vicky,

>

>I think in adult services that would probably be regarded as abuse. It certainly would not go down at all well where ds is - and they're not perfect. There is a lot of emphasis on respect and on helping and listening and being aware of triggers for challenging behaviour - sounds as if that assistant was trying to provoke a fight.

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>Patience

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>> Taking into school today we arrived the same time as another youngster who is probably about 17, think he may be quite new to the school. Anyhow Iv'e seen this lad before in quite a distressed state, today he was distressed again, he had just got off the bus and an assistant was trying to control the situation. She kept trying to get him to "Ask nicely" and was kind of restraining him, he was trying to free himself but quite half heartedly, she didn't seem in any danger of being pushed away but the whole spectacle was really upsetting, anyway when I came out of the school after dropping off they were still there, this time he was very teary but managed to splurt out "Help" and again she said "Ask nicely". I don't know how it all ended as I had to leave and didn't want to be gawping but I keep asking myself isn't there a better way of dealing with our very severe kids who just cannot follow the usual rules. Our kids are so incredibly

vulnerable, totally dependent on the kindness and intergrity of others it's mind boggling.

>> Vicky

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Vicky - I have an idea! (Makes a change.)

The Challenging Behaviour Foundation is offering free training to schools and

families. Any chance of getting the school to get on biard? They would need to

find about a dozen families with a child at the special school with challenging

behaviour. (Shouldn't be difficult...)

Once the training had happened there's a good chance parents would know a lot

more and the school mught know a bit more too. This might lead to a better

approach.

(The children need to have SLD and challenging behavour or if autistic have

either MLD/SLD and cahallenging behaviour.)The school may not realise what the

scope of challengoing behaviour is - so they might need educating - there is a

lot of info on the Charity's website.

Margaret

> >

> > Taking into school today we arrived the same time as another youngster

who is probably about 17, think he may be quite new to the school. Anyhow Iv'e

seen this lad before in quite a distressed state, today he was distressed again,

he had just got off the bus and an assistant was trying to control the

situation. She kept trying to get him to " Ask nicely " and was kind of

restraining him, he was trying to free himself but quite half heartedly, she

didn't seem in any danger of being pushed away but the whole spectacle was

really upsetting, anyway when I came out of the school after dropping off

they were still there, this time he was very teary but managed to splurt out

" Help " and again she said " Ask nicely " . I don't know how it all ended as I had

to leave and didn't want to be gawping but I keep asking myself isn't there a

better way of dealing with our very severe kids who just cannot follow the usual

rules. Our kids are so incredibly vulnerable, totally dependent on the kindness

and intergrity of others it's mind boggling.

> > Vicky

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Vicky - I have an idea! (Makes a change.)

The Challenging Behaviour Foundation is offering free training to schools and

families. Any chance of getting the school to get on biard? They would need to

find about a dozen families with a child at the special school with challenging

behaviour. (Shouldn't be difficult...)

Once the training had happened there's a good chance parents would know a lot

more and the school mught know a bit more too. This might lead to a better

approach.

(The children need to have SLD and challenging behavour or if autistic have

either MLD/SLD and cahallenging behaviour.)The school may not realise what the

scope of challengoing behaviour is - so they might need educating - there is a

lot of info on the Charity's website.

Margaret

> >

> > Taking into school today we arrived the same time as another youngster

who is probably about 17, think he may be quite new to the school. Anyhow Iv'e

seen this lad before in quite a distressed state, today he was distressed again,

he had just got off the bus and an assistant was trying to control the

situation. She kept trying to get him to " Ask nicely " and was kind of

restraining him, he was trying to free himself but quite half heartedly, she

didn't seem in any danger of being pushed away but the whole spectacle was

really upsetting, anyway when I came out of the school after dropping off

they were still there, this time he was very teary but managed to splurt out

" Help " and again she said " Ask nicely " . I don't know how it all ended as I had

to leave and didn't want to be gawping but I keep asking myself isn't there a

better way of dealing with our very severe kids who just cannot follow the usual

rules. Our kids are so incredibly vulnerable, totally dependent on the kindness

and intergrity of others it's mind boggling.

> > Vicky

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Vicky - I have an idea! (Makes a change.)

The Challenging Behaviour Foundation is offering free training to schools and

families. Any chance of getting the school to get on biard? They would need to

find about a dozen families with a child at the special school with challenging

behaviour. (Shouldn't be difficult...)

Once the training had happened there's a good chance parents would know a lot

more and the school mught know a bit more too. This might lead to a better

approach.

(The children need to have SLD and challenging behavour or if autistic have

either MLD/SLD and cahallenging behaviour.)The school may not realise what the

scope of challengoing behaviour is - so they might need educating - there is a

lot of info on the Charity's website.

Margaret

> >

> > Taking into school today we arrived the same time as another youngster

who is probably about 17, think he may be quite new to the school. Anyhow Iv'e

seen this lad before in quite a distressed state, today he was distressed again,

he had just got off the bus and an assistant was trying to control the

situation. She kept trying to get him to " Ask nicely " and was kind of

restraining him, he was trying to free himself but quite half heartedly, she

didn't seem in any danger of being pushed away but the whole spectacle was

really upsetting, anyway when I came out of the school after dropping off

they were still there, this time he was very teary but managed to splurt out

" Help " and again she said " Ask nicely " . I don't know how it all ended as I had

to leave and didn't want to be gawping but I keep asking myself isn't there a

better way of dealing with our very severe kids who just cannot follow the usual

rules. Our kids are so incredibly vulnerable, totally dependent on the kindness

and intergrity of others it's mind boggling.

> > Vicky

> >

>

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that is very so wonderful that they are doing so I do recommend the challenging behaviour they helped us a lot in some rough patch that we had 2 years ago, very helpful they were.

claudia

PS the course idea is also useful for parents to know themselves better so things like this happens the parents of the child knows what is happening with them in the school, i find that schools sometimes love for parents to not communicate with each other , god knows what they unearth if they did

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that is very so wonderful that they are doing so I do recommend the challenging behaviour they helped us a lot in some rough patch that we had 2 years ago, very helpful they were.

claudia

PS the course idea is also useful for parents to know themselves better so things like this happens the parents of the child knows what is happening with them in the school, i find that schools sometimes love for parents to not communicate with each other , god knows what they unearth if they did

[Guest guest]

that is very so wonderful that they are doing so I do recommend the challenging behaviour they helped us a lot in some rough patch that we had 2 years ago, very helpful they were.

claudia

PS the course idea is also useful for parents to know themselves better so things like this happens the parents of the child knows what is happening with them in the school, i find that schools sometimes love for parents to not communicate with each other , god knows what they unearth if they did