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February 13, 2008

In a message dated 2/11/2008 10:44:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

bdkirk03@... writes:

My only concern about the direction of this group is

that it has become so one-sided that I think most newcomers may get

the impression that major lifestyle changes and huge financial

commitments are the ONLY way to see progress in their child/children.

A simple way that we can address this issue, is that those who DON'T believe

that Biomed issues are the " only way " to go-- they can speak up and POST

MORE! :-)

If there are posters out there with a differing opinion--- Can they not POST

that information as well??

I think that's a perfect solution

becky

**************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy

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February 13, 2008

Every time I read that Erma Bombeck story I cry! (But it's a good cry!)

-------------- Original message --------------

From: " kiddietalk " <kiddietalk@...>

Colleen CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!

Below is your first post here ever and below that is a poem from Erma

Bomback to parents like us!

" She will never take for granted a 'spoken word. She will never

consider a 'step' ordinary. When her child says 'Mama' for the first

time, she will be present at a miracle and know it! "

Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:47 pm

Re: Help with pro-efa and soy

Hello,

I am also new to this network. I have a 24 month old and I have

started

to give him the Nordic Naturals 3/6/9 with Borage Oil. 1 capsule a

day. I have not given him Vit e. Am I supposed to? We are seeing very

positive results so far with clearer articulation. I do not have an

anser for you on soy.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Colleen

How Mothers of Handicapped Children are Chosen

Erma Bombeck, 1980

This year, nearly 100,000 women will become mothers of handicapped

children. Did you ever wonder how mothers of handicapped children are

chosen?

Somehow I visualize God hovering over Earth. As he observes, he

instructs his angels to make notes.

" Armstrong, Beth; son; patron saint, . Forrest, Marjorie;

daughter; patron saint, Cecilia. Finally he passes a name to an angel

and smiles, " Give her a handicapped child. "

The angel is curious. " Why this one, God? She's so happy. "

" Exactly, " smiles God. " Could I give a handicapped child a mother who

does not know laughter? "

" But has she patience? " asks the angel.

" I don't want her to have too much patience or she will drown in a

sea of self-pity and despair. Once the shock and resentment wears

off, she'll handle it. I watched her today. She has that feeling of

self and independence that is so rare and so necessary in a mother.

You see, the child I'm going to give her has his own world. She has

to make it live in her world and that's not going to be easy. "

" But, Lord, I don't think she even believes in you. "

God smiles, " No matter. I can fix that. This one is perfect.

She has just enough selfishness. "

The angel gasps, " Selfishness?

God nods. " If she can't separate herself from the child occasionally,

she'll never survive. Yes, there is a woman whom I will bless with a

child less than perfect. She doesn't realize it yet, but she is to be

envied. She will never take for granted a 'spoken word. She will

never consider a 'step' ordinary. When her child says 'Mama' for the

first time, she will be present at a miracle and know it! When she

describes a tree or a sunset to her blind child, she will see it as

few people ever see my creations. I will permit her to see clearly

the things I see - ignorance, cruelty, prejudice - and allow her to

rise above them. She will never be alone. I will be at her side every

minute of every day of her life. "

" And what about her patron saint? " asks the angel.

God smiles. " A mirror will suffice. "

=====

February 13, 2008

Your news made my day!!! I am sooo happy for you!

-------------- Original message --------------

From: " Colleen Somerville " <colleen.somerville@...>

BTW -

Thanks to this list, a 2.5 year old little boy said, " I love you momma " for

the first time last night.

Thanks to you all... you know who you are!

February 13, 2008

In a message dated 2/13/2008 7:21:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

t_r_z@... writes:

Becky

Did I read correctly you are pg with your 8th child???

LOL yes ma'am, you read correctly! :-)

This crazy woman is expecting her 8th on June 3rd. I'm now 24wks

Becky

**************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy

Awards. Go to AOL Music.

(http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)

February 13, 2008

I don't even know how we got here other than that " The three posters

thing. " Well, let's talk about The Three Posters.

Me: not doing the opposed big biomed unless you include a diet

(everyone has to eat something and my mainstream doctors support this

diet based on history and testing and clinical response). I also do

fish oil when the child in question tolerates it. The child in

question does not tolerate " the formula " well and labs back that for

now. The child in question is doing better than all his age that have

been spoken about on the board. I am going to medically test in the

mainstreeam to avoid firther problems, test the water in question, do

hair mineral tests because I bought them and I have the poop and pee

tests but am honestly on the fence.

: Going to a DAN for her nonapraxic child. Valuable resource for

life with an apraxic child who is doing well. Talks about biomed she

has researched.

Janice: Did therapy and the rest. Trying the foormula and also

chelating.

Other than volume, which I am trying to create less of (and failing

with this post obviously) not sure what the big deal is on an

uncensored board EXCEPT a legitimate concern for newbies which can be

addressed by an active owner greating newbies and by people refering

folks to the folders where things are separated and not so scary.

>

> In a message dated 2/11/2008 10:44:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> bdkirk03@... writes:

>

> My only concern about the direction of this group is

> that it has become so one-sided that I think most newcomers may get

> the impression that major lifestyle changes and huge financial

> commitments are the ONLY way to see progress in their

child/children.

>

> A simple way that we can address this issue, is that those who

DON'T believe

> that Biomed issues are the " only way " to go-- they can speak up and

POST

> MORE! :-)

> If there are posters out there with a differing opinion--- Can they

not POST

> that information as well??

>

> I think that's a perfect solution

>

> becky

>

> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the

Grammy

> Awards. Go to AOL Music.

> (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)

>

February 13, 2008

No doubt about it. These kids, they are a gift.

>

> Every time I read that Erma Bombeck story I cry! (But it's a good

cry!)

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: " kiddietalk " <kiddietalk@...>

>

> Colleen CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!

>

> Below is your first post here ever and below that is a poem from

Erma

> Bomback to parents like us!

> " She will never take for granted a 'spoken word. She will never

> consider a 'step' ordinary. When her child says 'Mama' for the

first

> time, she will be present at a miracle and know it! "

>

> Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:47 pm

> Re: Help with pro-efa and soy

>

> Hello,

>

> I am also new to this network. I have a 24 month old and I have

> started

> to give him the Nordic Naturals 3/6/9 with Borage Oil. 1 capsule a

> day. I have not given him Vit e. Am I supposed to? We are seeing

very

> positive results so far with clearer articulation. I do not have an

> anser for you on soy.

> Any advice is greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

> Colleen

>

> How Mothers of Handicapped Children are Chosen

>

> Erma Bombeck, 1980

>

> This year, nearly 100,000 women will become mothers of handicapped

> children. Did you ever wonder how mothers of handicapped children

are

> chosen?

>

> Somehow I visualize God hovering over Earth. As he observes, he

> instructs his angels to make notes.

> " Armstrong, Beth; son; patron saint, . Forrest, Marjorie;

> daughter; patron saint, Cecilia. Finally he passes a name to an

angel

> and smiles, " Give her a handicapped child. "

>

> The angel is curious. " Why this one, God? She's so happy. "

> " Exactly, " smiles God. " Could I give a handicapped child a mother

who

> does not know laughter? "

> " But has she patience? " asks the angel.

> " I don't want her to have too much patience or she will drown in a

> sea of self-pity and despair. Once the shock and resentment wears

> off, she'll handle it. I watched her today. She has that feeling of

> self and independence that is so rare and so necessary in a mother.

> You see, the child I'm going to give her has his own world. She has

> to make it live in her world and that's not going to be easy. "

>

> " But, Lord, I don't think she even believes in you. "

> God smiles, " No matter. I can fix that. This one is perfect.

> She has just enough selfishness. "

> The angel gasps, " Selfishness?

> God nods. " If she can't separate herself from the child

occasionally,

> she'll never survive. Yes, there is a woman whom I will bless with

a

> child less than perfect. She doesn't realize it yet, but she is to

be

> envied. She will never take for granted a 'spoken word. She will

> never consider a 'step' ordinary. When her child says 'Mama' for

the

> first time, she will be present at a miracle and know it! When she

> describes a tree or a sunset to her blind child, she will see it as

> few people ever see my creations. I will permit her to see clearly

> the things I see - ignorance, cruelty, prejudice - and allow her to

> rise above them. She will never be alone. I will be at her side

every

> minute of every day of her life. "

>

> " And what about her patron saint? " asks the angel.

> God smiles. " A mirror will suffice. "

>

> =====

>

February 13, 2008

Becky

Did I read correctly you are pg with your 8th child???

>

> In a message dated 2/11/2008 3:11:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> bdkirk03@... writes:

>

> So, I just want to say that there are other options! Progress can and

> does often occur with mainstream therapies, too.

>

> But Bridget-- not wanting to ask you this to upset you, but to ask a

serious

> question.

> You said your child has responded well to both the fish oils and the

speech

> therapy. I think that's WONDERFUL, but what about the larger

majority of

> Apraxic children where this wouldn't work for them?

> I guess that's why I keep going back to the thinking that while most

of the

> Biomed and diet talk isn't necessarily something that works for MY

son, I

> would hate to think of others here that wouldn't be able to read

that information

> and get help for THEIR child.

> do you know what I'm saying?

>

> I respect that there are those here like yourself, who haven't had

to make

> dietary changes etc-- or major life changes involving their

families, but you

> also have to admit that it's not the " norm " when dealing with Apraxic

> children.

>

> My son was diagnosed with Severe Apraxia, and it goes beyond the

speech and

> is also a Global Apraxia. I would LOVE to be able to NOT change my

life around

> to have to focus all on his issues, and yet, if I DON'T this child

won't be

> helped in the way he needs. so-- I have to make serious changes that

> involve me and my other kids. (and I have SEVEN kids, with one on

the way-- you can

> only imagine how " inconvenient " it is to have tons of therapy

outside of the

> home, and also trying to continue home schooling the other kids etc)

>

> What's my point? LOL I'm just saying that I totally hear where

you're

> coming from--but I just think that for the overall good of most of

the kids here,

> to have the information THERE and AVAILABLE, and not " restricting " the

> topics we talk about is a much wiser choice

>

> becky

>

> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the

Grammy

> Awards. Go to AOL Music.

> (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)

>

February 13, 2008

Thanks so very much for reminding me how far I have come! Charlie is doing

so wonderful. He has said I love you every night since then. He is such a

happy little guy now who loves to annouce that he is running through the

house!

Colleen

Mother of Charlie 32 months

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