Re: Regarding Water, Poland Spring?

[Guest guest]

Last year we had a whole house filter installed as well as a reverse osmosis

system...it is the under the sink version made by kinetico...how do I find out

if this is good enough? Also now that I'm thinking our dentist prescribed

fluoride tablets because our water doesn't have fluoride added, is this a huge

no no????? UGH how will I ever get this all straight?

Barbara

[ ] Re: Regarding Water, Poland Spring?

Some of the shower heads are good. A friend in the neighborhood got

rid of eczema with just that.

Reverse osmosis filters are not all the same. I really researched

this and highly recommend the Costco one I post all the time. 5 step

filtration rocks. It takes longer to install. I literally hired a

rocket scientist to do it and it took him 2 hours. You cannot get a

whiole house system that will filter out fluoride...too big a

molecule. If you find one please post it (I'll likely be divorced if

you do...LOL) The shower thing is a good idea even if you get the

whole house filter. The small amount of fluoride in our water was

bleeding our copper pipes and showing up in the shower. A common

problem when copper meets fluoride.

>

> The shower head filter we bought was made by GE. I wouldn't guantee

it

> either, but a whole home treatment centre was not an option because

we are

> moving. The reverse osmosis system we bought hooked up to the main

water

> line under the sink but the rest is easily removed. We will put a

little

> stainless steel cap (plug) over the hole in counter top when we

move unless

> the system is negotiated in the selling price. My brother in law

installed

> it in about an hour. (My husband could have done it but I don't

really trust

> his handyman skills..LOL)

> Our system fits under our kitchen sink. It comes with a holding

tank.

> I believe we bought it at Home Depot.

> In the next house I will find a whole home system.

[Guest guest]

Liz I hope you enjoy a piece of delicious birthday cake today but of

course the kiss from your little one was the cherry on top! Thought

you would enjoy the following video from youtube. (I had to smile

thinking that you probably are wondering if the aliens are wearing

helments and spacesuits to protect them from the toxins from 'their'

planet!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj6cbM-h8xg

=====

[Guest guest]

Oh honey, I wish you would tell my poor husband that. The filter I am

referring to at costco is the 5 step one. It retails for just under

$300. The have a less expensive one also but it is not as good.

>

> You don't seen paranoid to me - I would love it if you would fill

me in. My

> parents are moving next week to a house with well water - and they

are going

> to order the costco R/O and have it installed. 10 minutes ago, I

mentioned

> pesticides and such to my mother wondering how that would stay out

of her

> water supply!

>

[Guest guest]

FIJI is pretty good but it actually has a ton of good minerals in

it...likely too many for our kids to handle. We used that when we

were waiting for the RO filter to be installed and my son wound up

with wierd skin stuff during baths from it I believe as it was the

only new thing we did then.

I think there are issues cooking with pellegrino.

>

> I love FIJI water - wish it came in larger sizes, because that would

> certainly do the trick!

>

>

>

> Love Pellegrino too, but can you cook with that??

>

>

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of kiddietalk

> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:02 PM

>

> Subject: [ ] Re: Regarding Water, Poland Spring?

>

>

>

> My friend who is an internist MD in New Jersey boils water

and

> 'then' puts it in a Brita water filter! I just met her at Disney

last

> week where her and her family were staying at a resort and is part

of

> the Disney vacation plan so her room had a fridge and all -but not

> kidding -there was a huge pot of boiled water in the fridge to fill

> the Brita with as they needed new water

>

> She actually carries that bulky large Brita container with her in

her

> luggage through the airport -when I said 'you didn't bring that

with

> you did you? " Thinking it was something from the room she

> answered " Of course I did! " I have to think about not carrying my

> blow dryer at times because in trying to cut down on what I carry

on

> the airlines and she's carrying a bulky Brita container!! It's the

> only water she said she trusts now a days. We go through tons of

> bottled water in my house but have a whole house filter too on well

> water that has been tested pure. Another doctor I'm friends with

> won't use plastic bottles but like boils the water and then

> fills glass bottles for the family to use. If I had more time

> perhaps I would boil all my water and fill up a bunch of glass

> bottles to carry -but with my two boys running around barefoot most

> of the time I'm worried about glass a bit more than the water right

> now. Besides I like the taste of the bottled water we drink which

> are either Zephyrhills, Fiji or at times S. Pellegrino.

>

> (ssshhh even better than 's boiled & Brita-ed pure water!)

>

> You can probably check out your bottled water here

> http://www.nrdc.org/water/drinking/bw/appa.asp

> According to the following chart Zephyrhills and S. Pellegrino are

> tested pure -didn't see Fiji -but it tastes pure and the website

> makes it appear so! http://www.fijiwater.com

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

Just say no to fluoride tablets!

Drs data has a water testing kit for $129 that tests for fluoride and

the rest. The cheaper test does not test for fluoride.

>

> Last year we had a whole house filter installed as well as a

reverse osmosis system...it is the under the sink version made by

kinetico...how do I find out if this is good enough? Also now that

I'm thinking our dentist prescribed fluoride tablets because our

water doesn't have fluoride added, is this a huge no no????? UGH how

will I ever get this all straight?

>

> Barbara

[Guest guest]

No cake but extra kisses. I have to find raw milk as you say it

staves off that sweet tooth:) , you find the very best youtubes.

I promise, my kids will not be wearing those outfits any time soon.

We will leave Jersey before it comes to that. You gotta live life.

>

> Liz I hope you enjoy a piece of delicious birthday cake today but

of

> course the kiss from your little one was the cherry on top!

Thought

> you would enjoy the following video from youtube. (I had to smile

> thinking that you probably are wondering if the aliens are wearing

> helments and spacesuits to protect them from the toxins

from 'their'

> planet!)

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj6cbM-h8xg

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

Okay fluoride tablets are outta here and I will order the test kit. Do cavities

increase without the fluoride? That is all we need is more visits to the

dentist!!!!

Barbara

[ ] Re: Regarding Water, Poland Spring?

Just say no to fluoride tablets!

Drs data has a water testing kit for $129 that tests for fluoride and

the rest. The cheaper test does not test for fluoride.

>

> Last year we had a whole house filter installed as well as a

reverse osmosis system...it is the under the sink version made by

kinetico...how do I find out if this is good enough? Also now that

I'm thinking our dentist prescribed fluoride tablets because our

water doesn't have fluoride added, is this a huge no no????? UGH how

will I ever get this all straight?

>

> Barbara

[Guest guest]

Believe it or not we went to the beach yesterday. May even go again

tomorrow. Old age is good to me:)

>

> Happy birthday Liz!!!!

> I hope you get to go out and relax and do something fun!!!

>

>

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: " ilizzy03 " <lizlaw@...>

>

>

> What is up with the water talk today. My favorite topic...and its my

> bday. Too funny! The birthday kisses from my boy, who just got that

> ability back

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting about the Fiji and your son's skin.

I wonder if the gallon bottles of distilled water that you find at the

grocery store are any good to at least cook with, anyone know??

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of ilizzy03

Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 11:11 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Regarding Water, Poland Spring?

FIJI is pretty good but it actually has a ton of good minerals in

it...likely too many for our kids to handle. We used that when we

were waiting for the RO filter to be installed and my son wound up

with wierd skin stuff during baths from it I believe as it was the

only new thing we did then.

I think there are issues cooking with pellegrino.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/4/2008 11:04:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

hisblueeyes@... writes:

Well water is a concern.

Hmm that's interesting to hear. We lived in a home with well water for over

10 years, and when we moved here where we have town water, I all but CRIED

at getting rid of the well water!!! I felt sooooo much safer with the well

water than I will EVER feel with the town water.

Becky

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[Guest guest]

those who DRINK Distilled water--- do you actually LIKE the taste of it??

Personally speaking-- I HATE HATE HATE the taste of distilled water and

can't imagine drinking it. I am a heavy water drinker (always filtered and

bottled never from the tap) and I need a good tasting water, and can't stand

the

thought of the taste of distilled water to enjoy as drinking water.

becky

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In a message dated 2/4/2008 3:11:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

klbushey@... writes:

I think Poland Spring is a good choice. Back in the late 80's I had an

environmental science class and the teacher had researched them and said it was

the best one around at that time.

Many things have changed since the 80's-- for certain! Poland Springs is

probably *better than most of the bottled waters, but there truly *IS* a

lawsuit

going against them since they are not taking the water from Natural Springs

as they claim to be.

becky

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/4/2008 3:40:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

hisblueeyes@... writes:

I had heard that about aquafina - I can't bear the taste of it any better

than our tap water. It's amazing what gets sold, isn't it??

Every time my kids eat out (which thankfully isn't often at fast food

places) they always request bottled water because they know it's better than

soda

etc.But I think it's Burger King or Mcs that sells Aquafina, and if

they go there-- I tell them-- forget the bottled water, you're just as good

with the soda!

ROFLOL

again-thankfully we don't do fast foods often at all! LOL

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[Guest guest]

Per Weston Price, a dentist who traveled the world observing

populations in their native habitats in the 1920s and 30s dental

health is a great reflection of overall health. Fluoride occurs

naturally in water...that is the good stuff. Fluorine is the stuff

the U.S. gov't allowed to be added to water supplies in the 1950s. At

the time two things were at play: 1) car manufacturing skyrocketed

and fluorine is a wasteproduct of steel manufacturing and 2) concerns

about dental health were on folks minds because the Depression years

earlier caused fewer resources, I think we saw rickets in the 1940's

(this the whole calcium.milk craze)etc. So, the gov't approved this

and a study about fluoride (not ine) and dental carry reduction was

touted to sell this to the public. The neon writing fluoride alert

sites will tell you the whole fluoride thing was a conspiracy between

government, banking and industry. I do not know about all of that.

Perhaps when it was done it was safe. But now it really is not and it

is a big problem. My town is not fluoridated but I think I know why.

Fluoride is a metal trapper and it turns out while fluoride is not in

our town water directly (it and similar stuff chemically is

indirectly via pesticide run off) there are a whole lot of metals in

our water, including mercury. Even the technically unfluoridated

areas actually fluoridate. They can do that legally up to 1 ppm or

ppb I forget. Problem is low levels like that are being studied and

they are finding an increase in osteosarcoma for boys. They have

found nothing in girls but I doubt anyone is looking hard enough.

Fluorine affects the endocrine system so God only knows what it is

doing to our girls and likely any future babies they have.

As for the dentist, there are holistic dentists out there. I switched

to one this year. I did it because they use digital xrays for less

radiation exposure, less toxic numbing stuff and have ventilation

systems to reduce mercury and other neurotoxic substance exposure.

Mine was terrific and was comparably priced to my other dentist. She

also happened to be a better dentist and saved my tooth from the

whole root canal thing. You may want to google and see if there is

one in your area. They are not all the same though and there is some

sort of accrediting agency that will send you a list of questions for

when you set up your appt to sort of weed out a bad choice. I will

also warn you, some of these dentists, like mine, do some wierd

tests. I forget what they are called but it is like this thing where

they are testing your energy. That falls into the crazy voodoo

category for me but she was a good dentist and if she asked me to

stand on my head to save that tooth I'd likely have done it.

Lastly, when getting fillings, etc., mercury is bad but some of the

white replacements have their own issues. I am told there are blood

tests that can be done to address biocompatibility.

Sorry this is so long.

>

> Okay fluoride tablets are outta here and I will order the test

kit. Do cavities increase without the fluoride? That is all we need

is more visits to the dentist!!!!

>

> Barbara

>

[Guest guest]

Nope. Bottled distilled water is specifically not regulated for

drinking. Often it can be tap water plus ectra toxins. Not good.

>

[Guest guest]

Ug! Thanks!

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of ilizzy03

Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:41 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Regarding Water, Poland Spring?

Nope. Bottled distilled water is specifically not regulated for

drinking. Often it can be tap water plus ectra toxins. Not good.

>

[Guest guest]

I do not want to be a killjoy here. I really researched this water

thing because I had to. There was a good post somewhere on here about

smart water.

>

> Ug! Thanks!

>

>

>

> From:

> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of ilizzy03

> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:41 AM

>

> Subject: [ ] Re: Regarding Water, Poland Spring?

>

>

>

> Nope. Bottled distilled water is specifically not regulated for

> drinking. Often it can be tap water plus ectra toxins. Not good.

>

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bottled distilled water is bad stuff...not the same as home distilled

>

> those who DRINK Distilled water--- do you actually LIKE the taste

of it??

> Personally speaking-- I HATE HATE HATE the taste of distilled

water and

> can't imagine drinking it. I am a heavy water drinker (always

filtered and

> bottled never from the tap) and I need a good tasting water, and

can't stand the

> thought of the taste of distilled water to enjoy as drinking water.

>

>

>

> becky

>

>

>

>

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Don't tell the local mom who had PS delivered and her kid is full of

lead, mercury and aluminum. Not saying it is all from PS but still in

curious.

>

>

> In a message dated 2/4/2008 3:11:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> klbushey@... writes:

>

> I think Poland Spring is a good choice. Back in the late 80's I

had an

> environmental science class and the teacher had researched them and

said it was

> the best one around at that time.

>

>

>

>

>

> Many things have changed since the 80's-- for certain! Poland

Springs is

> probably *better than most of the bottled waters, but there truly

*IS* a lawsuit

> going against them since they are not taking the water from

Natural Springs

> as they claim to be.

>

> becky

>

>

>

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Music.

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You're not being a killjoy - I just want to do the right thing, so if you've

got info that's relevant, feel free to post it. I really appreciate your

replies.

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of ilizzy03

Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:14 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Regarding Water, Poland Spring?

I do not want to be a killjoy here. I really researched this water

thing because I had to. There was a good post somewhere on here about

smart water.

>

> Ug! Thanks!

>

>

>

> From:

<mailto: %40>

> [mailto:

<mailto: %40> ] On Behalf Of ilizzy03

> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:41 AM

>

<mailto: %40>

> Subject: [ ] Re: Regarding Water, Poland Spring?

>

>

>

> Nope. Bottled distilled water is specifically not regulated for

> drinking. Often it can be tap water plus ectra toxins. Not good.

>

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The 5 step ro filter from costco and a good GE whole house filter are

the best things I know.

Afterward if still freaked you can test the water with a kit for $129

from Drs data

> >

> > Ug! Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> > From:

> <mailto: %40>

> > [mailto:

> <mailto: %40> ] On Behalf Of

ilizzy03

> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:41 AM

> >

> <mailto: %40>

> > Subject: [ ] Re: Regarding Water, Poland Spring?

> >

> >

> >

> > Nope. Bottled distilled water is specifically not regulated for

> > drinking. Often it can be tap water plus ectra toxins. Not good.

> >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Last May consumer reports did testing on water filters. You need to look

at their magazine at a library or sign up for their online access to see

the whole article, but the short story is this:

For reverse osmosis, their top pick was the Kenmore Elite 38556 at $300.

For whole house, their top pick was Whirlpool WHCF-DWHV at $35.

They did not test the kinetico filter, at least under that name.

Generally whole house filters are going to be best at reducing sediment,

and possibly chlorine and other contaminants if they contain activated

charcoal. An RO filter is usually going to be *much* more effective in

reducing a wide spectrum of chemicals, bacteria, and elements. I am

planning to add both a whole house filter, and an RO unit that will feed

the water dispenser and ice maker in my refrigerator.

-jimk

Barbara Eccleston wrote:

>

> Last year we had a whole house filter installed as well as a reverse

> osmosis system...it is the under the sink version made by

> kinetico...how do I find out if this is good enough? Also now that I'm

> thinking our dentist prescribed fluoride tablets because our water

> doesn't have fluoride added, is this a huge no no????? UGH how will I

> ever get this all straight?

>

> Barbara

> [ ] Re: Regarding Water, Poland Spring?

>

> Some of the shower heads are good. A friend in the neighborhood got

> rid of eczema with just that.

>

> Reverse osmosis filters are not all the same. I really researched

> this and highly recommend the Costco one I post all the time. 5 step

> filtration rocks. It takes longer to install. I literally hired a

> rocket scientist to do it and it took him 2 hours. You cannot get a

> whiole house system that will filter out fluoride...too big a

> molecule. If you find one please post it (I'll likely be divorced if

> you do...LOL) The shower thing is a good idea even if you get the

> whole house filter. The small amount of fluoride in our water was

> bleeding our copper pipes and showing up in the shower. A common

> problem when copper meets fluoride.

>

>

> >

> > The shower head filter we bought was made by GE. I wouldn't guantee

> it

> > either, but a whole home treatment centre was not an option because

> we are

> > moving. The reverse osmosis system we bought hooked up to the main

> water

> > line under the sink but the rest is easily removed. We will put a

> little

> > stainless steel cap (plug) over the hole in counter top when we

> move unless

> > the system is negotiated in the selling price. My brother in law

> installed

> > it in about an hour. (My husband could have done it but I don't

> really trust

> > his handyman skills..LOL)

> > Our system fits under our kitchen sink. It comes with a holding

> tank.

> > I believe we bought it at Home Depot.

> > In the next house I will find a whole home system.

>

>

[Guest guest]

If your water is fluoridated you still may want to consider the

costco one. Unfortunately Consumer Reports like others, thinks

fluoride is OK.

>

> Last May consumer reports did testing on water filters. You need to

look

> at their magazine at a library or sign up for their online access

to see

> the whole article, but the short story is this:

>

> For reverse osmosis, their top pick was the Kenmore Elite 38556 at

$300.

>

> For whole house, their top pick was Whirlpool WHCF-DWHV at $35.

>

> They did not test the kinetico filter, at least under that name.

> Generally whole house filters are going to be best at reducing

sediment,

> and possibly chlorine and other contaminants if they contain

activated

> charcoal. An RO filter is usually going to be *much* more effective

in

> reducing a wide spectrum of chemicals, bacteria, and elements. I am

> planning to add both a whole house filter, and an RO unit that will

feed

> the water dispenser and ice maker in my refrigerator.

>

> -jimk