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This is incorrect. Erroneous advice, no matter how well meaning,

will not be in your best interest and could hurt you. Get competent

advice from an experienced attorney. Then you'll have a better

understanding of what's involved.

Been there – done that.

RNY 11/28/01

>BUT, as far as a law suit goes, don't be too

> sure that you have a case. You have to meet a few criteria for a

>law

> suit. One of them is that the actions caused you harm. Other then

> frustration, I see where no harm has happened. The second is that

> the harm was intentional. I am sure that there was NO intention to

> cause you frustration here.

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This is incorrect. Erroneous advice, no matter how well meaning,

will not be in your best interest and could hurt you. Get competent

advice from an experienced attorney. Then you'll have a better

understanding of what's involved.

Been there – done that.

RNY 11/28/01

>BUT, as far as a law suit goes, don't be too

> sure that you have a case. You have to meet a few criteria for a

>law

> suit. One of them is that the actions caused you harm. Other then

> frustration, I see where no harm has happened. The second is that

> the harm was intentional. I am sure that there was NO intention to

> cause you frustration here.

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Bobby, so is what your saying that you willingly went to a hospital

that has substandard care level not once, but twice? Brings to mind

the old saying " fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on

me " .

KathyM

> Fay -

>

> As I have stated many times, I am NOT a litigious individual,

however, I take

> exception to your statement (and, am somewhat offended) by " how

much damage "

> I " want to do to everyone concerned. " With all due respect, this

is an

> incredible statement. How much damage I want to do? Huuummm.

>

> Fay, I am hopeful that you understand that the medical profession

is held to

> a MUCH HIGHER STANDARD than you or I. Again, yes, we are ALL

fallible, we

> ALL make mistakes. However, if NO ONE speaks up, a more serious

mistake can

> happen to YOU or YOUR LOVED ONE next time.

>

> It all boils down to standard of care as well as professional

ethics. I have

> had 2 previous standard of care issues with this same hospital

(which I did

> not go into).

>

> This is strike 3, and my expectations for this facility have been

greatly

> reduced (from my past experiences) from expecting to receive

adequate care,

> to just being thankful that I come home alive. This may be a

dramatic

> statement, but what a sad commentary when a patient should have to

overlook

> good and decent before/during/and aftercare, and have the sole

expectation of

> simply " coming home alive. " At this point, the old adage

of " all's well that

> ends well " does not cut it for me.

>

> My previous negative experiences (at this same hospital) occurred

during a

> c-section (10 years ago) AND my WLS, almost 2 years ago. I

remained

> grounded, after these issues, and " overlooked " standard of care

> oversights/errors connected with these surgeries.

>

> One was with O.R. staff allowing my epidural to expire PRIOR to

the surgeon

> cutting into me during a c-section, allowing me to FEEL EVERYTHING

and

> resulting in me going into immediate shock from the pain of the c-

section

> incision and the tearing of the tissue into the uterus. Despite

my crys for

> help, despite all monitors indicating I was in distress from pain,

the

> surgeon could not do anything but continue, nor anesthetize me

UNTIL the

> baby's head came out. This was a serious issue, and I was almost

lost from

> shock.

>

> I had asked about the IV as I was rolled into the OR for the c-

section (it

> was NOT an emergency situation). I saw it was extremely low. By

the time

> they cut, it had run out. My pleas' to the OR staff nurses was

disregarded

> and that O.R. " oversight " resulted in me being placed me in grave

danger. I

> never pursued this, I counted my blessings, went on with my life

and my

> records indicate the truth of the matter.

>

> I will not go into the second incident that occurred with my

nursing care

> during my WLS.

>

> I now am drawing the line on this one. This is strike three for

this

> facility, that I am forced to go to as my PPO. This is not MY

fight. This

> is not a money-making endeavor on my part. This is a fight for

ALL who go

> AFTER me, or God forbid, for me, should I need the services of

this same

> hospital again.

>

> Furthermore, a timely response to my records request, a timely

response to my

> concerns and a timely acknowledgment by the nurse that there had

been a

> mistake would have made all the difference to me. But the fact

that all

> parties involved (except my surgeons office not associated with

the hospital)

> tried to sweep with under the carpet SCREAMS something very loudly

to me.

>

> I am hopeful, by way of my concerns, this hospital would practice

more due

> diligence in the future. .

>

> Thank you for your thoughts.

>

> Bobbie

> Anchorage

>

> ****************************************

>

> <<Here comes the But. But, how much damage do you want to do to

everyone

> concerned. Most of us do the best we can. If I could get sued

for my

> mistakes I would be in big trouble. How about you, are you

mistake proof. >>

>

> My 2 cents.

>

> Fay Bayuk

> '300/173

> 10/23/01

> Dr.

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Bobby, so is what your saying that you willingly went to a hospital

that has substandard care level not once, but twice? Brings to mind

the old saying " fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on

me " .

KathyM

> Fay -

>

> As I have stated many times, I am NOT a litigious individual,

however, I take

> exception to your statement (and, am somewhat offended) by " how

much damage "

> I " want to do to everyone concerned. " With all due respect, this

is an

> incredible statement. How much damage I want to do? Huuummm.

>

> Fay, I am hopeful that you understand that the medical profession

is held to

> a MUCH HIGHER STANDARD than you or I. Again, yes, we are ALL

fallible, we

> ALL make mistakes. However, if NO ONE speaks up, a more serious

mistake can

> happen to YOU or YOUR LOVED ONE next time.

>

> It all boils down to standard of care as well as professional

ethics. I have

> had 2 previous standard of care issues with this same hospital

(which I did

> not go into).

>

> This is strike 3, and my expectations for this facility have been

greatly

> reduced (from my past experiences) from expecting to receive

adequate care,

> to just being thankful that I come home alive. This may be a

dramatic

> statement, but what a sad commentary when a patient should have to

overlook

> good and decent before/during/and aftercare, and have the sole

expectation of

> simply " coming home alive. " At this point, the old adage

of " all's well that

> ends well " does not cut it for me.

>

> My previous negative experiences (at this same hospital) occurred

during a

> c-section (10 years ago) AND my WLS, almost 2 years ago. I

remained

> grounded, after these issues, and " overlooked " standard of care

> oversights/errors connected with these surgeries.

>

> One was with O.R. staff allowing my epidural to expire PRIOR to

the surgeon

> cutting into me during a c-section, allowing me to FEEL EVERYTHING

and

> resulting in me going into immediate shock from the pain of the c-

section

> incision and the tearing of the tissue into the uterus. Despite

my crys for

> help, despite all monitors indicating I was in distress from pain,

the

> surgeon could not do anything but continue, nor anesthetize me

UNTIL the

> baby's head came out. This was a serious issue, and I was almost

lost from

> shock.

>

> I had asked about the IV as I was rolled into the OR for the c-

section (it

> was NOT an emergency situation). I saw it was extremely low. By

the time

> they cut, it had run out. My pleas' to the OR staff nurses was

disregarded

> and that O.R. " oversight " resulted in me being placed me in grave

danger. I

> never pursued this, I counted my blessings, went on with my life

and my

> records indicate the truth of the matter.

>

> I will not go into the second incident that occurred with my

nursing care

> during my WLS.

>

> I now am drawing the line on this one. This is strike three for

this

> facility, that I am forced to go to as my PPO. This is not MY

fight. This

> is not a money-making endeavor on my part. This is a fight for

ALL who go

> AFTER me, or God forbid, for me, should I need the services of

this same

> hospital again.

>

> Furthermore, a timely response to my records request, a timely

response to my

> concerns and a timely acknowledgment by the nurse that there had

been a

> mistake would have made all the difference to me. But the fact

that all

> parties involved (except my surgeons office not associated with

the hospital)

> tried to sweep with under the carpet SCREAMS something very loudly

to me.

>

> I am hopeful, by way of my concerns, this hospital would practice

more due

> diligence in the future. .

>

> Thank you for your thoughts.

>

> Bobbie

> Anchorage

>

> ****************************************

>

> <<Here comes the But. But, how much damage do you want to do to

everyone

> concerned. Most of us do the best we can. If I could get sued

for my

> mistakes I would be in big trouble. How about you, are you

mistake proof. >>

>

> My 2 cents.

>

> Fay Bayuk

> '300/173

> 10/23/01

> Dr.

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Actually, I am correct, see below for the 4 things you need for a

malpractice law suit:

Legal necessities of the plaintiff and the defendant

As in any malpractice lawsuit, a plaintiff suing for medical

malpractice must show the four elements necessary to prove

negligence: duty of care, breach of duty, injury, and proximate

cause. A person accused of malpractice can defend him or herself by

showing that one of these elements is missing and/or by establishing

an affirmative defense. An affirmative defense is a legal argument

that admits the existence of the required elements, but maintains

that the plaintiff is also culpable.

> >BUT, as far as a law suit goes, don't be too

> > sure that you have a case. You have to meet a few criteria for a

> >law

> > suit. One of them is that the actions caused you harm. Other

then

> > frustration, I see where no harm has happened. The second is

that

> > the harm was intentional. I am sure that there was NO intention

to

> > cause you frustration here.

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Actually, I am correct, see below for the 4 things you need for a

malpractice law suit:

Legal necessities of the plaintiff and the defendant

As in any malpractice lawsuit, a plaintiff suing for medical

malpractice must show the four elements necessary to prove

negligence: duty of care, breach of duty, injury, and proximate

cause. A person accused of malpractice can defend him or herself by

showing that one of these elements is missing and/or by establishing

an affirmative defense. An affirmative defense is a legal argument

that admits the existence of the required elements, but maintains

that the plaintiff is also culpable.

> >BUT, as far as a law suit goes, don't be too

> > sure that you have a case. You have to meet a few criteria for a

> >law

> > suit. One of them is that the actions caused you harm. Other

then

> > frustration, I see where no harm has happened. The second is

that

> > the harm was intentional. I am sure that there was NO intention

to

> > cause you frustration here.

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Kathy,

If you read Bobbie's messages, she has no choice; it's the only hospital

her health insurance plan covers. Most of us don't have the luxury of

being able to self-pay for much of anything, never mind surgeries and

hospital stays. I don't know about you, but that's WHY I have insurance,

to get better care in a prepaid fashion. Give Bobbie a break. I'm

totally on her side. This hospital, their staff, and their procedures,

all need to be held accountable. That can be done without suing them,

and I believe Bobbie's interested in doing just that. I've also

encouraged her to document everything and to raise hell with her

insurer; they should not accept such poor performance from their

designated health care center... From a coldly financial standpoint,

poor care will cost them more money as people have increased

complications.

Ziobro

Open RNY 09/17/01

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Re: SKIN WEIGHT - Lengthy

Bobby, so is what your saying that you willingly went to a hospital

that has substandard care level not once, but twice? Brings to mind

the old saying " fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on

me " .

KathyM

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Kathy,

If you read Bobbie's messages, she has no choice; it's the only hospital

her health insurance plan covers. Most of us don't have the luxury of

being able to self-pay for much of anything, never mind surgeries and

hospital stays. I don't know about you, but that's WHY I have insurance,

to get better care in a prepaid fashion. Give Bobbie a break. I'm

totally on her side. This hospital, their staff, and their procedures,

all need to be held accountable. That can be done without suing them,

and I believe Bobbie's interested in doing just that. I've also

encouraged her to document everything and to raise hell with her

insurer; they should not accept such poor performance from their

designated health care center... From a coldly financial standpoint,

poor care will cost them more money as people have increased

complications.

Ziobro

Open RNY 09/17/01

310/130

Re: SKIN WEIGHT - Lengthy

Bobby, so is what your saying that you willingly went to a hospital

that has substandard care level not once, but twice? Brings to mind

the old saying " fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on

me " .

KathyM

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Ok, after reading her history with the hospital, the whole thing makes much more

sense. I think we need to end this discussion. She did a good job waking them

up and we should applaud her.

Fay

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Ok, after reading her history with the hospital, the whole thing makes much more

sense. I think we need to end this discussion. She did a good job waking them

up and we should applaud her.

Fay

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I'm so sorry for your mother's loss, especially under these conditions. I

appreciate your thoughtful response and your unbiased obversations.

Bobbie

Anchorage

In a message dated 3/13/03 1:39:59 PM, Graduate-OSSG writes:

<< Message: 1

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:19:44 -0500

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<<And then there are times that this attitude " isn't " taken. >>

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I'm so sorry for your mother's loss, especially under these conditions. I

appreciate your thoughtful response and your unbiased obversations.

Bobbie

Anchorage

In a message dated 3/13/03 1:39:59 PM, Graduate-OSSG writes:

<< Message: 1

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:19:44 -0500

Subject: Re: Re: SKIN WEIGHT - Lengthy

<<And then there are times that this attitude " isn't " taken. >>

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Unless you're a licensed attorney providing professional advice

you're personal opinion is just that. Nothing wrong with opinions,

but don't pass yourself off as qualified to give competent legal

advice when you're not. Erroneous advice is worse than no advice at

all.

> > >BUT, as far as a law suit goes, don't be too

> > > sure that you have a case. You have to meet a few criteria for

a

> > >law

> > > suit. One of them is that the actions caused you harm. Other

> then

> > > frustration, I see where no harm has happened. The second is

> that

> > > the harm was intentional. I am sure that there was NO intention

> to

> > > cause you frustration here.

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Unless you're a licensed attorney providing professional advice

you're personal opinion is just that. Nothing wrong with opinions,

but don't pass yourself off as qualified to give competent legal

advice when you're not. Erroneous advice is worse than no advice at

all.

> > >BUT, as far as a law suit goes, don't be too

> > > sure that you have a case. You have to meet a few criteria for

a

> > >law

> > > suit. One of them is that the actions caused you harm. Other

> then

> > > frustration, I see where no harm has happened. The second is

> that

> > > the harm was intentional. I am sure that there was NO intention

> to

> > > cause you frustration here.

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Vicki -

I have not mentioned a malpractice lawsuit. Anything but. You alone have

chosen to use those words. And your words to me did not appear supportive

but aggressively uninformed.

And, as " malpractice lawsuit " were your words ... not mine, you apparently

are pulling from the threads what you are sensitive to. And, it this is

forgiveable, given your inexperience with the law. Good luck to you in YOUR

profession.

Bobbie

Anchorage

******************************

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:08:36 -0000

Subject: Re: SKIN WEIGHT - Lengthy

<<My post was not ment to be anything but supportive of her

personally, but for her not to be disappointed if she is told she

does not have a malpractice suit. >>

In a message dated 3/13/03 1:39:59 PM, Graduate-OSSG writes:

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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:08:36 -0000

Subject: Re: SKIN WEIGHT - Lengthy

No need to be nasty. I am in the medical profession, and happen to

know a few things about law suits related to malpractice becasue

yes, I do work with attorneys. The statement below came directly

from an attorney, not from my own " opinion " . And no, I am not an

expert, nor did I claim to be anywhere in my post. This has

obviously hit a hot button for you, and I am sorry. Maybe my

wording??

My point is simply that just becasue you are unhappy, you can not

sue. It does not work that way. Passing on this information was no

different then any of us passing on " medical " information. None of

us are docs (well maybe one or two), yet we may know a few things

about what is going on with someone based on our past experiences.

And no, it does not take the place of a hands on professional

opinion. It is just information that we have that we are passing on.

If people do not want ALL of our opinions, then they should not post

questions and look for comments and support on such a diverse group

as this.

My point to Bobbie is that of course she is right, she has done

exactly what she should have by letting everyone know of her

dissatisfaction and causeing waves so that hopefully things will

change BUT..... she is getting very stressed over this and this

stress is just not good for her.

My post was not ment to be anything but supportive of her

personally, but for her not to be disappointed if she is told she

does not have a malpractice suit.

> Unless you're a licensed attorney providing professional advice

> you're personal opinion is just that. Nothing wrong with

opinions,

> but don't pass yourself off as qualified to give competent legal

> advice when you're not. Erroneous advice is worse than no advice

at

> all. >>

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Vicki -

I have not mentioned a malpractice lawsuit. Anything but. You alone have

chosen to use those words. And your words to me did not appear supportive

but aggressively uninformed.

And, as " malpractice lawsuit " were your words ... not mine, you apparently

are pulling from the threads what you are sensitive to. And, it this is

forgiveable, given your inexperience with the law. Good luck to you in YOUR

profession.

Bobbie

Anchorage

******************************

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:08:36 -0000

Subject: Re: SKIN WEIGHT - Lengthy

<<My post was not ment to be anything but supportive of her

personally, but for her not to be disappointed if she is told she

does not have a malpractice suit. >>

In a message dated 3/13/03 1:39:59 PM, Graduate-OSSG writes:

<< Message: 15

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:08:36 -0000

Subject: Re: SKIN WEIGHT - Lengthy

No need to be nasty. I am in the medical profession, and happen to

know a few things about law suits related to malpractice becasue

yes, I do work with attorneys. The statement below came directly

from an attorney, not from my own " opinion " . And no, I am not an

expert, nor did I claim to be anywhere in my post. This has

obviously hit a hot button for you, and I am sorry. Maybe my

wording??

My point is simply that just becasue you are unhappy, you can not

sue. It does not work that way. Passing on this information was no

different then any of us passing on " medical " information. None of

us are docs (well maybe one or two), yet we may know a few things

about what is going on with someone based on our past experiences.

And no, it does not take the place of a hands on professional

opinion. It is just information that we have that we are passing on.

If people do not want ALL of our opinions, then they should not post

questions and look for comments and support on such a diverse group

as this.

My point to Bobbie is that of course she is right, she has done

exactly what she should have by letting everyone know of her

dissatisfaction and causeing waves so that hopefully things will

change BUT..... she is getting very stressed over this and this

stress is just not good for her.

My post was not ment to be anything but supportive of her

personally, but for her not to be disappointed if she is told she

does not have a malpractice suit.

> Unless you're a licensed attorney providing professional advice

> you're personal opinion is just that. Nothing wrong with

opinions,

> but don't pass yourself off as qualified to give competent legal

> advice when you're not. Erroneous advice is worse than no advice

at

> all. >>

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No need to be nasty. I am in the medical profession, and happen to

know a few things about law suits related to malpractice becasue

yes, I do work with attorneys. The statement below came directly

from an attorney, not from my own " opinion " . And no, I am not an

expert, nor did I claim to be anywhere in my post. This has

obviously hit a hot button for you, and I am sorry. Maybe my

wording??

My point is simply that just becasue you are unhappy, you can not

sue. It does not work that way. Passing on this information was no

different then any of us passing on " medical " information. None of

us are docs (well maybe one or two), yet we may know a few things

about what is going on with someone based on our past experiences.

And no, it does not take the place of a hands on professional

opinion. It is just information that we have that we are passing on.

If people do not want ALL of our opinions, then they should not post

questions and look for comments and support on such a diverse group

as this.

My point to Bobbie is that of course she is right, she has done

exactly what she should have by letting everyone know of her

dissatisfaction and causeing waves so that hopefully things will

change BUT..... she is getting very stressed over this and this

stress is just not good for her.

My post was not ment to be anything but supportive of her

personally, but for her not to be disappointed if she is told she

does not have a malpractice suit.

> > > >BUT, as far as a law suit goes, don't be too

> > > > sure that you have a case. You have to meet a few criteria

for

> a

> > > >law

> > > > suit. One of them is that the actions caused you harm. Other

> > then

> > > > frustration, I see where no harm has happened. The second is

> > that

> > > > the harm was intentional. I am sure that there was NO

intention

> > to

> > > > cause you frustration here.

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No need to be nasty. I am in the medical profession, and happen to

know a few things about law suits related to malpractice becasue

yes, I do work with attorneys. The statement below came directly

from an attorney, not from my own " opinion " . And no, I am not an

expert, nor did I claim to be anywhere in my post. This has

obviously hit a hot button for you, and I am sorry. Maybe my

wording??

My point is simply that just becasue you are unhappy, you can not

sue. It does not work that way. Passing on this information was no

different then any of us passing on " medical " information. None of

us are docs (well maybe one or two), yet we may know a few things

about what is going on with someone based on our past experiences.

And no, it does not take the place of a hands on professional

opinion. It is just information that we have that we are passing on.

If people do not want ALL of our opinions, then they should not post

questions and look for comments and support on such a diverse group

as this.

My point to Bobbie is that of course she is right, she has done

exactly what she should have by letting everyone know of her

dissatisfaction and causeing waves so that hopefully things will

change BUT..... she is getting very stressed over this and this

stress is just not good for her.

My post was not ment to be anything but supportive of her

personally, but for her not to be disappointed if she is told she

does not have a malpractice suit.

> > > >BUT, as far as a law suit goes, don't be too

> > > > sure that you have a case. You have to meet a few criteria

for

> a

> > > >law

> > > > suit. One of them is that the actions caused you harm. Other

> > then

> > > > frustration, I see where no harm has happened. The second is

> > that

> > > > the harm was intentional. I am sure that there was NO

intention

> > to

> > > > cause you frustration here.

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I would ask that those members who have taken it upon themselves to privately

email me with discourteous, unwelcome and uninvited comments, or those of you

who may be considering doing this, refrain from continuing to do so.

This thread was placed as a support group thread, on our support group list,

welcome to all comments and opinions, whether agreeable to me or not.

However, it is inappropriate for those of you (and you know who you are) to

feel free to " come into my home " to privately critize me or my concerns, as

you are neither welcome nor invited.

To you " nee-sayers, " please continue to feel free, if you must, to express

your feelings about my thread in PUBLIC on the PUBLIC website.

I consider your private thoughts and opinions as not only intrusive, but

rude, invasive, and, again, highly inappropriate.

Thank you for respecting my wishes (and the rules of our list). Moderator,

please correct me if I'm wrong on this.

Bobbie

Anchorge

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I would ask that those members who have taken it upon themselves to privately

email me with discourteous, unwelcome and uninvited comments, or those of you

who may be considering doing this, refrain from continuing to do so.

This thread was placed as a support group thread, on our support group list,

welcome to all comments and opinions, whether agreeable to me or not.

However, it is inappropriate for those of you (and you know who you are) to

feel free to " come into my home " to privately critize me or my concerns, as

you are neither welcome nor invited.

To you " nee-sayers, " please continue to feel free, if you must, to express

your feelings about my thread in PUBLIC on the PUBLIC website.

I consider your private thoughts and opinions as not only intrusive, but

rude, invasive, and, again, highly inappropriate.

Thank you for respecting my wishes (and the rules of our list). Moderator,

please correct me if I'm wrong on this.

Bobbie

Anchorge

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Thank you, Donna, for your courteous reply.

Bobbie

Anchorge

<< Bobbie, my first question to my surgeon after my tummy tuck two years ago

was

how much did it weigh? I asked this in the recovery room, so thats how

important it was and is to me also, >>

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Thank you, Donna, for your courteous reply.

Bobbie

Anchorge

<< Bobbie, my first question to my surgeon after my tummy tuck two years ago

was

how much did it weigh? I asked this in the recovery room, so thats how

important it was and is to me also, >>

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Haven't we heard enough about this.

Perhaps you could e-mail each other privately.

Pope

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>

>

>

> No need to be nasty. I am in the medical profession, and happen to

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> know a few things about law suits related to malpractice becasue

>

> yes, I do work with attorneys. The statement below came directly

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> from an attorney, not from my own " opinion " . And no, I am not an

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> expert, nor did I claim to be anywhere in my post. This has

>

> obviously hit a hot button for you, and I am sorry. Maybe my

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> wording??

>

>

> My point is simply that just becasue you are unhappy, you can not

>

> sue. It does not work that way. Passing on this information was no

>

> different then any of us passing on " medical " information. None of

>

> us are docs (well maybe one or two), yet we may know a few things

>

> about what is going on with someone based on our past experiences.

>

> And no, it does not take the place of a hands on professional

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> opinion. It is just information that we have that we are passing on.

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> If people do not want ALL of our opinions, then they should not post

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> questions and look for comments and support on such a diverse group

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> as this.

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>

> My point to Bobbie is that of course she is right, she has done

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> exactly what she should have by letting everyone know of her

>

> dissatisfaction and causeing waves so that hopefully things will

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> change BUT..... she is getting very stressed over this and this

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> stress is just not good for her.

>

>

> My post was not ment to be anything but supportive of her

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> personally, but for her not to be disappointed if she is told she

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> does not have a malpractice suit.

>

>

>

>

> > Unless you're a licensed attorney providing professional advice

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> > you're personal opinion is just that. Nothing wrong with

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> opinions,

>

> > but don't pass yourself off as qualified to give competent legal

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> > advice when you're not. Erroneous advice is worse than no advice

>

> at

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> > all. >>

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Haven't we heard enough about this.

Perhaps you could e-mail each other privately.

Pope

Re: SKIN WEIGHT - Lengthy

>

>

>

> No need to be nasty. I am in the medical profession, and happen to

>

> know a few things about law suits related to malpractice becasue

>

> yes, I do work with attorneys. The statement below came directly

>

> from an attorney, not from my own " opinion " . And no, I am not an

>

> expert, nor did I claim to be anywhere in my post. This has

>

> obviously hit a hot button for you, and I am sorry. Maybe my

>

> wording??

>

>

> My point is simply that just becasue you are unhappy, you can not

>

> sue. It does not work that way. Passing on this information was no

>

> different then any of us passing on " medical " information. None of

>

> us are docs (well maybe one or two), yet we may know a few things

>

> about what is going on with someone based on our past experiences.

>

> And no, it does not take the place of a hands on professional

>

> opinion. It is just information that we have that we are passing on.

>

> If people do not want ALL of our opinions, then they should not post

>

> questions and look for comments and support on such a diverse group

>

> as this.

>

>

> My point to Bobbie is that of course she is right, she has done

>

> exactly what she should have by letting everyone know of her

>

> dissatisfaction and causeing waves so that hopefully things will

>

> change BUT..... she is getting very stressed over this and this

>

> stress is just not good for her.

>

>

> My post was not ment to be anything but supportive of her

>

> personally, but for her not to be disappointed if she is told she

>

> does not have a malpractice suit.

>

>

>

>

> > Unless you're a licensed attorney providing professional advice

>

> > you're personal opinion is just that. Nothing wrong with

>

> opinions,

>

> > but don't pass yourself off as qualified to give competent legal

>

> > advice when you're not. Erroneous advice is worse than no advice

>

> at

>

> > all. >>

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

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