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Hi,

My wife and I are having a little dispute about cartoons on TV.

My son is 7 and all he wants to do lately is have pretend fights to

see who is stronger etc.

He wants to watch a couple of cartoons with " super " heros. I say yes,

let him, it will give him an outlet for his aggression etc. My wife

says no, they are too violent.

He does know the difference between cartoons and real fighting and

knows that real fighting is wrong.

Any thoughts

Ken M

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Ken,

I feel your pain, and Janets. I have a boy with lots of energy,

always kick boxing, wrestling and shooting pretend guns. I don't let

him watch cartoons much, I mean like a show once every 2 weeks. I

just can't deal with the added energy after the show is over. I am

not sure it encourages him, since he is doing it already. I am just

too selfish to waste my afternoon yelling at him after a show.

We use the tv as a reward for good behaviour at school or a good day

of eating, which is probably wrong, but that is the deal we have

going.

So, I guess I am on the fence and not much help.....

Beth

> Hi,

>

> My wife and I are having a little dispute about cartoons on TV.

>

> My son is 7 and all he wants to do lately is have pretend fights to

> see who is stronger etc.

>

> He wants to watch a couple of cartoons with " super " heros. I say

yes,

> let him, it will give him an outlet for his aggression etc. My wife

> says no, they are too violent.

>

> He does know the difference between cartoons and real fighting and

> knows that real fighting is wrong.

>

> Any thoughts

>

> Ken M

> :)

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Ken-

Whether he watches the " super hero " cartoons or not, he's still

going to be exposed to violence in other TV shows, movies, snippets

in the news, what he watches at friends' houses, etc. So she's not

really protecting him from violence THAT much.

I'll also say this. When I was a little girl (figuratively speaking

), I wanted to be a Brownie. I mean I REALLY wanted it. My

parents wouldn't let me, using the excuse that I wouldn't fit into

the uniform. As it turned out, years later they told me it was

becuase they didn't want me hanging out with (forgive me) " the kids

from the projects " (lower income). I guess the fact that a lot of

those kids were in my classes at school never occurred to them???

Whatever. Anyway, although I won't say that I'm SCARRED from never

being a Brownie, to this day I truly do regret that I never was and

I still blame them for it. So before you, as parents, put your foot

down and say a definite no, see how important this is to him and

weigh it against having slightly less exposure to violence.

-Sharon-

Just an RSS kid who grew up

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Hi Beth,

We too use TV as a reward for completeing homework.

He can watch TV anytime as long as he is eating while he does so.

Ken M

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> > Hi,

> >

> > My wife and I are having a little dispute about cartoons on TV.

> >

> > My son is 7 and all he wants to do lately is have pretend fights

to

> > see who is stronger etc.

> >

> > He wants to watch a couple of cartoons with " super " heros. I say

> yes,

> > let him, it will give him an outlet for his aggression etc. My

wife

> > says no, they are too violent.

> >

> > He does know the difference between cartoons and real fighting

and

> > knows that real fighting is wrong.

> >

> > Any thoughts

> >

> > Ken M

> > :)

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Hello Ken,

Interesting subject. My husband and I debate about what our older son

(almost 5 yrs) is exposed to on TV and how much time he is

exposed to it as well. I'm sure everyone is probably familiar with

the study that came out in April of this year that confirmed the more

television children (preschoolers particularly) were exposed to, the

more likely they were to acquire ADD. Here's an excerpt and link to

a couple of articles about it.

" They (Journal of Pediatrics)found that the rapidly changing images

could overstimulate a toddler's brain, at a time when it was

vulnerable.

The study found up to 10 per cent of the children developed some

attention problems by the age of seven. "

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1082529.htm and/or

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-04-05-tv-bottomstrip_x.htm

Regardless, we know enjoys certain shows and we let him watch

them...especially at 5 p.m. when I or my husband are alone with him

and the toddler and we're trying to prepare dinner!

I have to think back to when I was growing up. I am certain I

watched umpteen episodes of " Popeye " , which is LOADED with violence

(not to mention the deragotory terms used on poor Olive). I don't

feel that it caused me any irreparable harm!

does enjoy " play wrestling " with dad, the only problem we have

noticed is he does not like to lose. He becomes very angry and

frustrated (sometimes cries) if he loses and even calls himself " a

loser " . We're still trying to figure out the most constructive way

to deal with that one.

I'm sure that was more than my two cents worth. Hope it was somehow

helpful.

Mom to RSS 07/03/03 & non-RSS 07/08/99

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Ken,

You are facing an issue like that of parents who do not allow their

children to have any sugar... The more you forbid it, the more

enticing it seems to be. Eventually curiosity will win out and the

child overdoses on the forbidden fruit.

In my humble opinion, you and Janet should reach a compromise. Let

watch a little of the superhero cartoons he wants to see so

badly, but make sure it is limited. You could even tie it into a

reward if you would like. If he does _____, then he can watch an

episode of ______. If it really bothers Janet that much, then

perhaps one of you can watch the cartoon with and talk about

what he has seen. The rest of the time you could limit TV time to

channels like Nickelodeon, PBS, Disney, or whatever.

Boys, by nature, are more physical and will play with pretend guns,

space-age adventures, superheroes, etc. even if they have no other

experience with them. Haven't you ever seen take, for

example, two spoons and have them fight each other? Man, I remember

when Max would do that and more. Everything that came into his

posession was a weapon, a bad guy or some sort of flying machine.

And the noises that went along with them! He could pow, roar, bang

with the best of them.

The decision is ultimately up to you and Janet. I, however, do not

see any difference in behavior between my students who watch

cartoons and those who are in a more controlled environment. But I

CAN see a difference between those who watch educational TV often

and those who don't.

Jodi

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Years ago I was very involved in the Quaker community. Friens are passionatly

opposed to violence and passionatly in support of human rights, They are at the

forefront of the peace and justice movement . In raising their children they

usually do not allow violent film and television images or toy weapons. Many of

their children attend private schools with the same focus. They actively involve

their kids in protests, fundraisers and letter writing campaigns. A Friend told

me a story once about some adults haveing a Meeting to discuss an anti-war

protest action while outside the little boys were playing cowboys and indians

using their fingers for guns. This kind of play seems to be hardwired into

little boys.

I will say that as adolescents and young adults most Quaker children share their

parents religious and social views.

, mom to Destiny RSS, and a host of others

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Hi,

My wife and I are having a little dispute about cartoons on TV.

My son is 7 and all he wants to do lately is have pretend fights to

see who is stronger etc.

He wants to watch a couple of cartoons with " super " heros. I say yes,

let him, it will give him an outlet for his aggression etc. My wife

says no, they are too violent.

He does know the difference between cartoons and real fighting and

knows that real fighting is wrong.

Any thoughts

Ken M

:)

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i guess some people say that that seemingly-violent play they do acts out

their fears, etc, but I wonder how many of those fears originate form the TV

shows. My older son was in a Waldorf preschool and we actually shut the whole

thing-videos and all-off for quite a long time. I was more spurred by Willie's

(RSS) laying in front of it. It seems that he needs no calories for watching TV

and may actually burn a few, eat more doing something else? It was much nicer

in our house w/o the TV but I got lazy, asthma season came, (TV w/nebulizer)

and we are fully super-heroed and insane. I scream a lot.

There has been a study released lately relating ADD and TV also.

Kathy (Willie, 3 .RSS , Periactin, 23 lbs)

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