Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Hi , Just thought I'd throw my two cents in as an unqualified community health researcher (that last bit so you can factor a credibility rating for what I'm about to say, lol). My thoughts are ... both fever and inflammation are the body's warning signs that something's wrong. Fever is a sign of infection. The body temperature is raised to kill the infection. Inflammation also involves body temperature. Both are linked to the body's immune system and immune responses. Fever should be temporary - inflammation should be temporary - as in spraining a wrist - as in a minor allergic response. When inflammation is not temporary, that is, it is extended over longer terms .... longer term damage results. The human body is truly miraculous at healing - cells are constantly renewed and replaced - but it is much harder to heal damage from extended or recurrent periods of inflammation (depending on the location, type, and severity of the damage) - a wrist, a heart valve, several hundred neurons. I suspect most, if not all, chronic and critical disease begins with extended periods or recurring episodes of inflammation - the catalyst for which could be anything - an extended allergic response, a prolonged poor diet, chemical exposure, a car accident, long term use of drugs, or extended periods of stress, etc. [For this reason I'd like to see researchers and doctors focus and collaborate on early warning signs and possible causes (translational medicine). This is one area I feel could prove of major benefit to society in the longer term.] Back to the subject and still thinking out loud ... Endorphins are the body's natural pain killers. Inflammation causes pain. To kill pain, you must reduce inflammation. It's possible LDN (via increasing endorphins - the body's natural pain killers) reduces inflammation - thereby effecting pain relief - thereby giving the body 'time-out' to heal - including replacing damaged cells. The increase in endorphins would have additional important benefits because endorphins are 'feel good' hormones and anything that makes us 'feel good' speeds healing - which is why we should all make time every day to have a good chuckle - isn't that right Cap'n Caveman? Regards, Cris www.casehealth.com.au www.casehealth.com Endorphins or Brain Inflamation? Posted by: " maxwell98king " wjkeeman@... maxwell98king Date: Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:06 pm (PDT) Hi, not to confuse the endorphin question but maybe LDN works by reducing disease causing brain inflamation and endorphins are a marker on how effective naltrexone is. The report below from the National Inastitutes of Health show that naloxone/naltrexone, an opioid recetor antagonist, can exihbit neuro-protection when administered to diseased rats (during daytime I would guess). While I take LDN at night, I am not a great believer in the night time theory. Because of these scientific research papers on opioid antagonists, which seem to be neuro-protective at very low doses, I believe the explanation lies in these reports which, for me, are hard to grasp. Until there are clinical trials with LDN on people, it's all theory. The reports on Dr. Bihari's patients are now quite old and I don't expect to see any further updates. Is there any news on Dr. Myra Gironi and her LDN MS trials? From the NIH: Introduction During the development of neurodegenerative diseases such as Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's disease, multiple sclerosis, AIDS dementia complex, and amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, as well as during post-traumatic brain injuries and ischemia, inflammation in the central nervous system is frequently observed (McGeer et al., 1988; Dickson et al., 1993; Raine, 1994; Matyszak, 1998). One of the major characteristics of the neuroimmune responses is the activation of the resident immune cells of the brain, the microglia, through a process termed reactive microgliosis (Dickson et al., 1993; Kreutzberg, 1996). Activated microglia secrete a variety of proinflammatory and cytotoxic factors, including nitric oxide (NO), tumor necrosis factor-alpha (TNF-alpha ), interleukin-1beta (IL-1beta ), arachidonic acid, eicosanoids, and reactive oxygen species (Merrill et al., 1992; Minghetti and Levi, 1998). Combinations of these glia-released factors were neurotoxic in vitro and are thought to actively participate in the progression of neurodegenerative diseases in vivo (Boje and Arora, 1992; Banati et al., 1993; Raine, 1994; Bronstein et al., 1995; Kreutzberg, 1996; Jeohn et al., 1998). More recently, it has been reported that peroxynitrite, formed from NO and superoxide, may be a more direct and significant cytotoxic intermediate (Beckman et al., 1993). However, the exact mechanisms of action responsible for the cytotoxicity for these numerous factors are still largely unknown. The loss of the function and subsequently the integrity of a specific subset of neurons, namely, the dopaminergicrgic neurons in the substantia nigra of the brain, is the hallmark of the pathology of Parkinson's disease. Inflammation along with increased oxidative stress in the midbrain appears to precede the eventual loss of dopaminergicrgic neurons (McGeer et al., 1988; Jenner and Olanow, 1996). Therefore, reducing the severity of inflammation and decreasing the intensity of oxidative stress may help to preserve the nigral dopaminergicrgic neurons. In the course of studying the role of the opioid system in the neuroimmune responses in the brain, we have discovered that (-)-naloxone, a nonselective opioid receptor antagonist, inhibits the lipopolysaccharide (LPS)-induced cytokine release and nitrite production in murine mixed cortical glia cultures (Das et al., 1995; Kong et al., 1997). We set out to investigate effects of naloxone on the inflammation-mediated damage to dopaminergicrgic neurons in the rat mesencephalic neuron-glia culture system. The underlying mechanism of action for the protective effects of naloxone was analyzed in relation to the activity of microglia. In this report, we show that naloxone protects dopaminergicrgic neurons from LPS-induced damage through inhibition of microglia activation and subsequent release of superoxide free radicals. Abstract Degeneration of dopaminergicrgic neurons in the substantia nigra of the brain is a hallmark of Parkinson's disease and inflammation and oxidative stress are closely associated with the pathogenesis of degenerative neurological disorders. Treatment of rat mesencephalic mixed neuron-glia cultures with lipopolysaccharide (LPS)-activated microglia, resident immune cells of the brain, to release proinflammatory and neurotoxic factors tumor necrosis factor-alpha , interleukin-1beta , nitric oxide, and superoxide and subsequently caused damage to midbrain neurons, including dopaminergic neurons. The LPS-induced degeneration of the midbrain neurons was significantly reduced by cotreatment with naloxone, an opioid receptor antagonist. This study focused on understanding the mechanism of action for the protective effect of naloxone on dopaminergic neurons because of relevance to Parkinson's disease. Both naloxone and its opioid receptor inactive stereoisomer (+)-naloxone protected the dopaminergic neurons with equal potency. Naloxone inhibited LPS-induced activation of microglia and release of proinflammatory factors, and inhibition of microglia generation of superoxide free radical best correlated with the neuroprotective effect of naloxone isomers. To further delineate the site of action, naloxone was found to partially inhibit the binding of [3H]LPS to cell membranes, whereas it failed to prevent damage to dopaminergic neurons by peroxynitrite, a product of nitric oxide and superoxide. These results suggest that naloxone at least in part interferes with the binding of LPS to cell membranes to inhibit microglia activation and protect dopaminergic neurons as well as other neurons in the midbrain cultures from inflammatory damage. http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/cgi/content/full/293/2/607?maxtoshow= & HITS=10 & hits\ =10 & RESULTFORMAT= & searchid=1115227473067_1759 & stored_search= & FIRSTINDEX=0 & minsco\ re=5000 & journalcode=jpet ________________________________________________________________________ 3b. Re: Endorphins or Brain Inflamation? Posted by: " Dave Carlin " davizona@... outtabodyexperience Date: Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:15 pm (PDT) Interesting, there is a guy on the GoodShape forum who believes that LDN works, but not the way that Dr Bihari believes it did. His thoughts were alway directed towards inflammation as well! Very interesting post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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